SemiAccurate: Nintendo NX handheld to use Nvidia Tegra-based Soc
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Whoa! I like that. True or not.
We know that Nvidia K1 and even moreso, Nvidia X1 both absolutely decimate PS Vita's low-clocked PowerVR SGX543MP4+ GPU.
Graphics Horse
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For existing portables there isn't much history: imgtec, dmp, and whatever that odd chip in the DS was.
Gamer @ Heart
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Yes, but company leaders and initiatives change with the times. If nvidia has actually delivered on their new chips unlike back when they were building the 3DS and ps3, and they are willing to come to the table with a deal, history means squat.
...WHOA!!! "We'll just take that off your hands NVIDIA!" (I know you're being cheeky!)
Jen-Hsun Huang said:
(From Q4 2015 Earnings Call)
Seems they care, but maybe they REALLY want to break in, and what better way than with Nintendo?
"It's crap!"
"We make it good!"
It entirely works! Kimishima wouldn't know that, and he didn't and maybe still doesn't, haha!
Maybe Kimishima is a GeForce guy?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Also I doubt the contract is a loss.
That being said Nvidia NEEDS Tegra clients so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were offering insane deals to clients.
That being said Nvidia NEEDS Tegra clients so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were offering insane deals to clients.
Beerman462
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Salty Nvidia meme validated?
Pokemaniac
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If anything, SemiAccurate may be "salty". I mean, they've predicted the imminent death of Nvidia quite frequently over the years, and just 2 days ago NV announced another quarter of exceeding expectations on both revenue and profit. Maybe Charlie needed to write something up to feel better about that.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I'm well aware, I was just humoring myself with the style of the article.
Ok, so these guys are now claiming the Tegra chip to be Pascal based...
But the X1 is Maxwell based. So are these guys jumping the gun, or do they actually have new information. And if so, how likely is it for the handheld to use X1 (due to discounts as per Thraktors hypothesis and SA claim) and the console to go with whatever successor they have in store based on Pascal?
ArchedThunder
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If both this rumor and the Emily Rogers rumor are both true then we'll have a weird first set of NX systems, an incredibly powerful handheld and a disappointing console. If both are true I guess I'll get the handheld and wait for the first stronger console revision.
ArchedThunder
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Is Pascal significantly more efficient than Maxwell?
Beerman462
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Might be part of it, but despite all their profits Nvidia has been unable to step into the mobile market. They may have been held back by their poor reputation after the deals with MS, Sony and then Nintendo choosing another SOC over Nvidia. There could be some merit to Nvidia needing a successful partnership.
PX2 are the exact opposite of the type of hardware you usually see Nintendo going for. That's a high-end product, not withered technology.
That's not to say that NV couldn't build / have built a Pascal-based SoC for Nintendo.
KungFucius
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They could go 28nm for console, 16nm finfet with less bells and whistles for handheld
Pokemaniac
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That's not what i asked really. I know the new chips are based on Pascal. That doesn't mean if Nintendo goes with Nvidia, they will go for the newest architecture, especially as the newest chips are likely more expensive. So, are the guys from that article just guessing or misinterpreting the SA article, or do they have actual proof of it?
Zombegoast
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I remember the 3DS was suppose to use Tegra. What's keeping Nintendo from going to a different SoC? At least Gamecube emulation could be possible.
I swear, one of the earlier NX rumours practically mentioned something along these lines and this was the exact assumption. A top notch handheld and a "meh" console. Maybe they were onto something...
Eolz
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Second article seems more like a "me too!" reaction to be honest, so likely ready to say it's real but without ever giving any proof or other details.
Nothing is stopping them from going elsewhere if they find a better deal that fit with their plans.
Another article from another website claiming the same thing, with pascal or pascal-like chips.
SemiAccurate is as accurate as its name. Can be but has some bias.
Didn't Nintendo file a patent for a device that could use supplemental devices for extra processing power?
Could they realistically use the handheld for that? I.e. the home device is more powerful than the handheld, but both can be used together this way, achieving even better results?
Could they realistically use the handheld for that? I.e. the home device is more powerful than the handheld, but both can be used together this way, achieving even better results?
What if the console and the handheld are the same device?
I know Iwata shot down the idea of a hybrid, but Wall Street Journal did mention in their report that NX would come with at least one mobile unit.
WSJ article:
I know Iwata shot down the idea of a hybrid, but Wall Street Journal did mention in their report that NX would come with at least one mobile unit.
WSJ article:
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dgrdsv
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Sourced from SA, no wonder it reads like fan fiction.
From what I've heard it was keeping power consumption down at the promised levels.
To be fair, sometimes they do. A huge motivation for Sony to push forward with Playstation was to get back at Nintendo for reneging on their CD deal at the last minute.
I thought it was something else, like Sony wanting full control of Nintendo 1st party IP...
Speaking of which, wasn't there a Nintendo PlayStation found somewhere? What became of it?
Heh, just think.
Supplemental Computing Devices directly powered by:
And in the cloud:
GTX GPUs and GRID !!.
What comes to mind with "Supplemental Computing Device" is that AMD XConnect thingie more than NVidia's SLI technology.
Sony wanted royalties on all CD-based games, making Nintendo a third party on their own platform. Nintendo backed out at the last minute because of it. Sony then retaliated with Playstation, and Nintendo's been paying ever since.
nVidia desktop/laptop GPUs can be costly, but I thought the Tegra line was supposed to be cheap? (Which is why the Ouya ran with a Tegra 3). If so, and nVidia has something which still makes them money and is cheap enough to go into a Nintendo handheld, it's not too far off that they might work something out - especially if they had tried it before.
Why don't you read the thread?
Hero of Legend
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Wouldn't a powerful handheld and a weak console be close enough in power to make this shared library and architecture a lot easier?
Also wouldn't the unified architecture only work if the console also used Tegra? The chips would have to be fairly identical but the console versions would be more powerful I would think to make that work, no?
GRID doesn't have to be SLI technology. It could be only as much as a single GTX GPU (take your pick) in a separate casing.
What kind of cabling would GRID use anyway? Last I check, FireWire was at least needed to deliver enough bandwidth for graphics-on-external-processor.
efyu_lemonardo
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This sounds like bollocks
(I mean the part about nVidia willing to lose money to enter the console business)
(I mean the part about nVidia willing to lose money to enter the console business)
Yes, Nvidia already has tech for this you can use with Shield to play anywhere.
Presumably you could see GameStream & GeForce Now (or at least a Nintendo-branded version) on NX if it's running a Tegra chip.
Chiaroscuro
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I think they are talking about the NX handheld, not the console. A Xbox 360 like handheld would be sweat.
Even better: The final name is Nintendo GTNX
efyu_lemonardo
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Updated my original post for clarity.
Her rumor is much more vague, unless I missed something.
"NX won't be powered by Polaris! Will have CPU more comparable to XB1..." or something. People then jumped to the end-times for Nintendo.
This idea of nVidia being the supplier is just as vague without the evidence, yet people are not so eager to jump at the idea. (And quite frankly I wouldn't buy it either.)