I'm sure he's right.
God, he is so fucking stupid.
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Senate healthcare repeal bill fails - Collins, Murkowski, and McCain voted no
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I'm sure he's right.
God, he is so fucking stupid.
If only there were a way to get 60 through compromise and bipartisanship.
It's almost like he's been a trust fund baby his entire life and grew up with a skewed view on what the real world actually is. It's almost like he doesn't actually relate to the people who voted for him, and doesn't actually care about them at all.
That is the sound of Trump realizing he has to work with democrats on some issues. What an idiot.
excelsiorlef
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Correct
old manatee
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plagiarize
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I believe John when he says he wants to get back to bipartisan bills and his vote was to achieve that. Dude regularly votes ways I don't like, but has helped draft loads of bipartisan bills.
I didn't rush to judge him for coming back to work because I had hope.
One last time he was a hero again. That may be it, but today Trump is really pissed off so credit where it is due.
It probably won't last, but today it feels like the checks and balances work and I can just enjoy the Twin Peaks Fest.
I didn't rush to judge him for coming back to work because I had hope.
One last time he was a hero again. That may be it, but today Trump is really pissed off so credit where it is due.
It probably won't last, but today it feels like the checks and balances work and I can just enjoy the Twin Peaks Fest.
Novel Mike
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What I find most interesting about this whole thing with McCain is that they literally seemed to delay the vote to try and persuade him to vote yes on it. Apparently Trump called him, Pence and others talked to him on the floor, ect. They put a shit ton of pressure on him and he still voted no.
I don't think hes a freaking hero for it or anything but that kind of pressure from your own party is hard to stand up against so for that well done McCain.
I don't think hes a freaking hero for it or anything but that kind of pressure from your own party is hard to stand up against so for that well done McCain.
He literally voted for the worst version of the health care bill. He is not getting any credit from me.
In fairness, that required 60 votes so nothing was on the line.
excelsiorlef
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Nah.. because he voted yes on the actual GOP healthcare plan... I can say glad he voted no here but I don't have to embrace him
plagiarize
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Get used to having a short term memory. We need a lot of people who voted for and with Trump to vote against him now, next year and in 2020. So let's be forgiving of their history and let's show them praise when they vote the right way, because otherwise they might not.
Vital Tundra
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McCain actually grew a pair of balls?
TheCochese
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The positive side of me says that is the reason. I'm attempting to ignore the cynical side.
excelsiorlef
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Their history? It was like 3 days ago.
BobTheFork
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Apparently they were stuck behind his eye until the surgery.
That's basically where I've been at.
Arrogant Bastard
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You know the answer to that question.
BronsonLee
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'Act like you've been here before!'
Saint Gregory
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Hey, he's new at this!
If only we had some kind of presidential training program...
old manatee
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It's like if a pack of cheetahs had some gazelles cornered and right as they were about to eat them one of the cheetahs let the gazelles free because the rest of the cheetahs wanted to make gazelle steak and this one just wanted a big juicy gazelle burger, and then after the gazelles were free they praised the maverick cheetah for being a hero.
I don't have a particular problem with giving McCain credit for this vote.
I have a specific problem with Unknown Soldier glorifying McCain and being extremely eager to stan for McCain, and smearing others on the side while he's at it, when he has ridiculously petty hatred for Hillary.
Maiden Voyage
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KernelPanic
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https://twitter.com/juddlegum/status/890931761034743811
I thought Fox hit rock bottom a long time but I guess not.
I thought Fox hit rock bottom a long time but I guess not.
A lot of us watched it unfold in real-time last night. I nearly vomited, choking on the fears of my future as an independent customer of healthcare, no less also thinking about friends and family.
Never again though. It was torture. We the people should not be put under such duress out of spite and politicking. I don't expect McCain really fears the GOP or Trump even close to what Americans felt last night, not nearly to the level many of us did.
I've never even heard of ADAPT until I saw people saying on Twitter this morning "Nah, fuck McCain ADAPT are the real heroes" like, did they vote?
ultratruman
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Absolutely. Cheering and whooping failed bills is a great way to undermine whatever bipartisan option you're trying to offer, not least with constituents.
ResidentWeevil13
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This was my assumption. McCain took a bullet for Moderate Republicans. He had the ability to get away with something like this without major political repercussions because a) he's a respected senator with a lot of clout, and b) he's currently dealing with a health crisis so attacking him would be viewed as unseemly
Mod Republicans are doing victory laps in their heads. They avoid the ire of Trump, but don't have to reap the political consequences of passing this bill. It's the best outcome for them given the current situation.
So they're going full traitor eh? That's a bold move.
plagiarize
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I'm sure it'll be mere days before John McCain upsets me again. But that isn't today. Three days is an eternity right now in politics.
TheCochese
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For them, it was a Friday.
BlackSalad
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McCain doing this makes me happy as an AZ resident. I always thought of him as a good, thoughtful person despite harboring the ridiculous GOP agenda lately
I'm glad he came back to his old form
he would of been a decent president in his younger years (as long as palin wasn't involved)
I'm glad he came back to his old form
he would of been a decent president in his younger years (as long as palin wasn't involved)
This is so on point.
And most people would have folded. The spine can come out once in awhile which is more than I can say about most other republicans out there
Totally, cant urge for a return to decorum and then whoop and holler in the middle of a session, no matter how relieving a moment it was. Schumer was absolutely right to settle the tone.
dragonchild
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It's kind of a myth that the best things are the result of bipartisanship. More often than not when it happens, it's because some special interest managed to buy out all of Congress.
The Telecommunications Act of 1996 passed 414-16, 91-5.
The Patriot Act passed 357-66, 98-1.
The Iraq War authorization passed 297-133, 77-23.
An Amendment for the 2006 spending bill (H.R. 3058, which eventually passed 405-18, 93-1) which would've stripped the Bridge to Nowhere and diverted the funds to Hurricane Katrina relief was defeated 15-82.
The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that eventually caused a global recession? Final version passed 362-57, 90-8.
When they work together, Congress overwhelmingly votes for monopoly, waste, war, and corruption. I'm not reassured by bipartisanship. When both sides agree on something, it's pants-shitting time.
ramoisdead
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This is how I see it as well. Yeah McCain finally grew a spine and voted sensibly. Still, it's just one good deed out of all the bullshit he has voted for or spewed for the past decade or so. For all we know, his intentions for voting no was purely on saving his skin than thinking about all parties.
Collins and Murkowski deserves a lot more credit than McCain.
Probably posted before but this is amazing
https://twitter.com/pvolpe/status/890917978589585408
1. Being mad at dems and people for celebrating
2. "Congratulations, the healthy people are paying for the sick people."
It's almost like the people don't know how insurance works.
https://twitter.com/pvolpe/status/890917978589585408
1. Being mad at dems and people for celebrating
2. "Congratulations, the healthy people are paying for the sick people."
It's almost like the people don't know how insurance works.
Republicans hold all the power....so it looks to me they'd fail at being dictators too. I mean...their incompetence (along with the Rump) is holding them back more than anything else.
plagiarize
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No arguments here. But right now bipartisan is preferable to GOP partisan politics even if less than ideal.
incredible
I normally dont base judgements of people based on clips, but even amongst the muck of Fox News, poor mans fascist Ross Gellar is easily my least favorite. Just seeing his face makes the entirety of my being brace itself for some ridiculous hateful logic.
Netherscourge
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A lot of this is grandstanding by McCain, but I fucking LOVE IT.
Collins and Murkowski need to get more support too - because they have been firm NO votes all along, even with asshole GoP harassing them and threatening to defund their state budgets.
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