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[Giallo Corsa]

These are 179€ on Sennheiser's EU site right now and 185 on Amazon

'Evening all

Long story short : I'm tired of my turtle bitches Stealth 700 Gen3 constant audio crackling and popping and I'm thinking of getting an actual pair of (good) wireless Headphones to use them with my PS5 via Bluetooth USB adapter.

The Momentum 4s are currently discounted to 185€ here in Euroland and after reading a couple of reviews I'm thinking of getting them.
Now, these are Headphones made for music listening so I don't know if they're actually good for gaming since I actually like some boomy sound for my single player games (and movie watching).

Another thing to consider is the Bluetooth USB dongle's compatibility with both the PS5 and the headphones - there's Avantree, Ugreen and Creative, Skull & co which all make BT adapters for consoles, but, I still don't know which model/company I should go with.

Does anyone use a Headphones+ USB BT adapter combo on their PS5 ? How's the experience? Is the lag perceivable even with Aptx adaptive enabled ? Is there any crackling and popping ? Most importantly, how is the audio output level/loudness ?

Thanks in advance boys

 

[Arioco]

That's exactly how I use my Momentum 4. I use the UGREEN BT adapter, and I don't know anything about the rest so I can't compare them.


When I first tried them on the PS5 the lag was terrible, it just made the games unplayable. It turned out the adapter uses Aptx HD by default (green light) instead of Aptx Adaptive. Pressing the adapter button once turned the light cyan (which means Aptx Adaptive) and solved the issue. The only annoyance is that you have to this every single time you turn on your PS5.

As for the quality, they sound very good and using the right codec I can't perceive any lag at all. They sound identical to how they sound when plugged directly to the DualSense (which also uses some low latency codec).

I heard some cracking when I first use them on the PS5 and then I realized the issue had something to do with the headphones being linked to the smartphone and the UGREEN adapter, so I disable BT on my phone and problem solved, cristal clear audio.

To be honest I'm not sure they sound better than the Pulse 3D, and definitely they are no as easy to use, but they sound really good and they're way more comfortable than the Pulse 3D, which is the only real reason I use them for gaming really.

Sí the headphones are great and sound fantastic, so if you want them for every day use go ahead. If you want them just for gaming and you already own the Pulse 3D you might not see much of an improvement, though.

 

[Topher]

I'm using Momentum 4's as well. Great headset. I use it for PC and PS5. Has a really nice app that lets you switch between the devices. I'm using Creative bluetooth and having no issues.

 

[Hoddi]

PS5 just outputs regular USB audio so almost any adapter will work well. I have both Avantree and Creative ones and it works transparently over AptX/AptX HD on both of my Sony headphones.

My Momentum 4 headphones have not worked as well with these adapters though. They work perfectly well most of the time but every so often they will start dropping the signal and introduce crackling and popping which never happened on my previous phones. It could just be a quirk in my own set but I've seen some comments online with similar issues over AptX/AptX HD. I don't own an adapter that supports AptX Lossless or Low Latency which may or may not perform better.

Latency is otherwise very noticeable in music games but I never notice it outside of those. I'd 100% go for it but your mileage may vary as far as crackling goes and depending on the adapter.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

That's exactly how I use my Momentum 4. I use the UGREEN BT adapter, and I don't know anything about the rest so I can't compare them.


When I first tried them on the PS5 the lag was terrible, it just made the games unplayable. It turned out the adapter uses Aptx HD by default (green light) instead of Aptx Adaptive. Pressing the adapter button once turned the light cyan (which means Aptx Adaptive) and solved the issue. The only annoyance is that you have to this every single time you turn on your PS5.

As for the quality, they sound very good and using the right codec I can't perceive any lag at all. They sound identical to how they sound when plugged directly to the DualSense (which also uses some low latency codec).

I heard some cracking when I first use them on the PS5 and then I realized the issue had something to do with the headphones being linked to the smartphone and the UGREEN adapter, so I disable BT on my phone and problem solved, cristal clear audio.

To be honest I'm not sure they sound better than the Pulse 3D, and definitely they are no as easy to use, but they sound really good and they're way more comfortable than the Pulse 3D, which is the only real reason I use them for gaming really.

Sí the headphones are great and sound fantastic, so if you want them for every day use go ahead. If you want them just for gaming and you already own the Pulse 3D you might not see much of an improvement, though.

Small world brother, small world... (if you know you know).
I appreciate the thourough breakdown, thank you !

Now, fiddling with the dongle every single time you turn the console on to change the Aptx to "adaptive" sounds like a ball ache, aren't there any adapters that do that automatically ? (think I read something about it on Reddit).
Anyway thanks again man, appreciate it !

PS: which Ugreen adaptor did you get ? the USB C one or the other one that also comes with a microphone which plugs into controller ?

I'm using Momentum 4's as well. Great headset. I use it for PC and PS5. Has a really nice app that lets you switch between the devices. I'm using Creative bluetooth and having no issues.

Toph, what do you mean "between devices" ? Are you talking about Bluetooth multipoint ?
If yes, how does it work exactly ? Say I have the headphones connected to both my PS5 and phone - will I be able to hear my phone ringing and answer calls through the headphones while gaming at the same time on my PS5 ?

PS5 just outputs regular USB audio so almost any adapter will work well. I have both Avantree and Creative ones and it works transparently over AptX/AptX HD on both of my Sony headphones.

My Momentum 4 headphones have not worked as well with these adapters though. They work perfectly well most of the time but every so often they will start dropping the signal and introduce crackling and popping which never happened on my previous phones. It could just be a quirk in my own set but I've seen some comments online with similar issues over AptX/AptX HD. I don't own an adapter that supports AptX Lossless or Low Latency which may or may not perform better.

Latency is otherwise very noticeable in music games but I never notice it outside of those. I'd 100% go for it but your mileage may vary as far as crackling goes and depending on the adapter.

Hoddi, the crackling you're experiencing shows that these BT adapters are hit and miss and not all are 100% compatible with every pair of BT headphones so it's not like "they're working well"...

And this is why I'm still hesitant , I mean, the Momentum 4 are very good headphones from what I'm reading but they weren't made to be used like Arioco , Topher do, and if I'm to shell out 180€ + 20+€ (headphones+ adapter)... I'd hate to start troubleshooting or have things not working properly...

I'm so tired of this shit that I might as well buy some HyperX cloud 3S wireless or Arctis nova 5 and be done with it, heck, my head is still spinning from the 3+ hours internet research I did today for this specific combo and also looking at newer gaming headsets...

Why does this shit have to be so complicated, I'm tired boss

 

[Topher]

Toph, what do you mean "between devices" ? Are you talking about Bluetooth multipoint ?
If yes, how does it work exactly ? Say I have the headphones connected to both my PS5 and phone - will I be able to hear my phone ringing and answer calls through the headphones while gaming at the same time on my PS5 ?

I'm not sure about answering calls (haven't tried that), but I just use it to change the audio source. If the device is connected to PS5 and I want to change to PC then I open the app and change it there.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

I own them (well, bought them for my wife) and she's using my ROG Pelta for PS5 because it's simply way more convenient with more or less the same sound quality in games.

Other than that, a very decent pair of cans. They're just wired via DualSense and adpaters are lousy experience, dedicated 2.4ghz headset is always a better solution.

 

[LectureMaster]

I've tried using a Bluetooth dongle with my WH-1000XM5 and it was terrible. I don't think bluetooth headphones are meant for gaming.

Get an Audeze Maxwell or Sony's Pulse Elite, both works well for PS5 and PC, with on board equalizer.

 

[Hoddi]

Hoddi, the crackling you're experiencing shows that these BT adapters are hit and miss and not all are 100% compatible with every pair of BT headphones so it's not like "they're working well"...

And this is why I'm still hesitant , I mean, the Momentum 4 are very good headphones from what I'm reading but they weren't made to be used like Arioco , Topher do, and if I'm to shell out 180€ + 20+€ (headphones+ adapter)... I'd hate to start troubleshooting or have things not working properly...

I'm so tired of this shit that I might as well buy some HyperX cloud 3S wireless or Arctis nova 5 and be done with it, heck, my head is still spinning from the 3+ hours internet research I did today for this specific combo and also looking at newer gaming headsets...

Why does this shit have to be so complicated, I'm tired boss

FWIW, I bought the Arctis 9x for my Xbox and they're completely dreadful. I personally avoid all 'gamer' headphones long before I start worrying about BT issues.

One thing worth adding regarding these Avantree/Creative BT dongles is that they aren't really BT adapters in the traditional sense. It's more accurate to say that they're BT transmitters and that you won't run into the type of BT connectivity issues that you often see on PC/Mac because it never interfaces with the system's Bluetooth stack. The PS5 just sees a generic USB soundcard while the pairing is handled entirely by the transmitter - you pair your headphones with the transmitter itself rather than the console in other words. You can then plug the dongle into whatever system you want to use and your headphones will remain paired with it.

There's no other troubleshooting involved because the OS is completely blind to it.