It's amazing to see the mental gymnastics people go through here to shit on literally every game.
I have outer worlds 2 platinumed, need 1 bugged trophy but while I hear you honestly most of these games have forgettable characters... I love the games I play but game stories are all typically mid tier and most games outside of some anomalies have pretty unforgettable characters. It isn't like the old days where we get your clouds and tifas anymore.Here's what I remember from it (finished it last April):
- good combat
- great lighting
- completely forgettable story and characters. I somehow can't remember a single character or story beat from the game… something about a plague type thing that corrupts the land and animals, that's it.
It took about 30 hours to finish. No regrets but it's just a totally forgettable experience. You're much better off with Outer Worlds 2; a far superior game and a huge improvement from OW1.
I'm sure I'll forget about OW2 eventually but it's been a few months and I still fondly remember the characters and story. I had low expectations for the writing after OW1 and Avowed, and also the crazy DEI vibes (LINK), but they mostly crushed it. Seriously, the writing was great. Characters, main plot, even the terminals were worth reading.I have outer worlds 2 platinumed, need 1 bugged trophy but while I hear you honestly most of these games have forgettable characters... I love the games I play but game stories are all typically mid tier and most games outside of some anomalies have pretty unforgettable characters. It isn't like the old days where we get your clouds and tifas anymore.
It's the experiences that count least for me. Outer worlds 1 and 2 are both good games but stories are just there. It's the exploration and combat, characters etc that for me are what matter.
Why sigh? Just don't buy it m8Another mid MS Game on PS5, sigh
Ws stand for Wet Farts?Xbox spreading their Ws to other consoles
Well even characters like Kratos or master chief, these characters are the stand outs that are rare. But I mean I love outer worlds 1 and 2 and I find the characters just ok but that's just me.I'm sure I'll forget about OW2 eventually but it's been a few months and I still fondly remember the characters and story. I had low expectations for the writing after OW1 and Avowed, and also the crazy DEI vibes (LINK), but they mostly crushed it. Seriously, the writing was great. Characters, main plot, even the terminals were worth reading.
RE: Cloud & Tifa
One of the reasons we'll never forget them was because it was a formative memory during our childhoods. Not saying they're not good characters, but there's a lot of nostalgia involved there because we were kids.
Then I think you'll like it enough. One positive is that it doesn't overstay it's welcome. My playtime says 33 hours and I remember exploring a lot.Well even characters like Kratos or master chief, these characters are the stand outs that are rare. But I mean I love outer worlds 1 and 2 and I find the characters just ok but that's just me.
I think avowed will be solid, I like Obsidians style so it always sorta lands for me.
Yea that sounds about right or what I was expecting, I really liked the vibes of the world when I put in a few hoursThen I think you'll like it enough. One positive is that it doesn't overstay it's welcome. My playtime says 33 hours and I remember exploring a lot.
Yeah I didn't play much of the game but the combat was by far the standout feature.Great game.
My second favourite rpg last year, behind Clair Obscur.
The combat system is the best i've seen in a game like this.
I don't even know how to answer this question, considering how different these games are, and how low the bar would have to be to make a comparison.How is it in comparison to KCD2 ?
There are hundreds of people who work on games, I don't care how stupid any of them are individually and I don't know why anyone wastes their time looking into this kind of thing. It's not illegal to be an idiot, if you want to reply to stupid things he says on twitter or whatever that's up to you but honestly if these kinds of comments bother people so much they probably shouldn't be on social media because it's full of people on both sides saying the dumbest shit possible just to get a rise out of the other side. It's obviously your right to not buy the game based on the art directors words but nobody is going to blame those words for poor sales and they would be right not to, I do think the art has put a lot of people off though (including me) so he could be blamed for that.![]()
Do not give these weird freaks money.
I have outer worlds 2 platinumed, need 1 bugged trophy but while I hear you honestly most of these games have forgettable characters... I love the games I play but game stories are all typically mid tier and most games outside of some anomalies have pretty unforgettable characters. It isn't like the old days where we get your clouds and tifas anymore.
It's the experiences that count least for me. Outer worlds 1 and 2 are both good games but stories are just there. It's the exploration and combat, characters etc that for me are what matter.
Yea, I checked it out for a few hours on game pass but I knew it'd hit ps5 so I shelved it until that day and glad I did. I have a nice pc I always was a pc guy but I love platinums, they're satisfying to me ultimately.If I understand correctly you put the game aside for PS5 right?
To me, I found Avowed to be better than Outer worlds 2, exactly because of exploration & combat.
In fact, I would say that the fully narrated story in Avowed, and the short stories with concept arts like Pillars of Eternity did, while not the story of the decade, I was more into it and following it than Outer Worlds 2 even though OW2 is a "better RPG", because in the end in outer worlds 2 I was skipping all computer logs and diaries build almost nothing in the lore. I was listering to the audio logs and stopped reading the pages and pages of worthless info.
How is it in comparison to KCD2 ?
You wrote what I was going to write. Excellent game. So many haters never played a minute of it.Great game.
My second favourite rpg last year, behind Clair Obscur.
The combat system is the best i've seen in a game like this.
AgreedThe combat system is the best i've seen in a game like this.








Yeah but I can't really describe how or why it is good.Agreed
I beat this game a week or so ago after 72 hours. I've had a lot of time to think about the experience, and I'm still a bit blown away by how good certain aspects of this game are.
In particular, the combat is exceptionally good. I feel this is thread worthy due to all the negativity surrounding this game at release. As a result of that, I think a lot of people are totally unaware how significant of an improvement Obsidian made here when it comes to combat.
Avowed has easily the best first person combat I've ever experienced in an RPG. I have a strong feeling in a few years we are going...
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Most of the time they are also not confused about the hobo beard being attractive to ladies.Straight men don't own neck accessories like this.
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It had it's issues, static noninteractive world and not too good character design, but it was still one of my bigger surprises last year from gameplay alone. The combat was probably the best ever for this perspective in the genre, the parkour was perfect too with the ledge lock and so on. It played great! And the role-playing was fun too, there were so many alternative scenarios for some bigger story beats.I really liked it. Not going to say the story is amazing, but the gameplay was fun as hell.
He believed that then but once nutella saw the extra revenue it was like fuck you phil, I want my billions in my bonus so get those games out there. One sale is better than one person renting it on game pass.
Not all of us were kids so you are vastly incorrectI'm sure I'll forget about OW2 eventually but it's been a few months and I still fondly remember the characters and story. I had low expectations for the writing after OW1 and Avowed, and also the crazy DEI vibes (LINK), but they mostly crushed it. Seriously, the writing was great. Characters, main plot, even the terminals were worth reading.
RE: Cloud & Tifa
One of the reasons we'll never forget them was because it was a formative memory during our childhoods. Not saying they're not good characters, but there's a lot of nostalgia involved there because we were kids.
Spot onAvowed is good now.