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He should have been. He was pretty cool in retrospect. Fucking MASSIVE, yet could move and bump around. Barbarian should have had the rocket on his back, brother.
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September Wrasslin |OT| The one night a year when every table will be on the line
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He should have been. He was pretty cool in retrospect. Fucking MASSIVE, yet could move and bump around. Barbarian should have had the rocket on his back, brother.
1. The Dudleys!
2. Ironwoman match between Sasha and Bayley. MOTY
Are they still with the Dolph/Lana bullshit? That's been going on for like 3 months already!
Perspicacity
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I see your point for outside appearances but I don't think it's the right way to do things when it happens in actual segments on the show, at the arena.
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So you'd support an alleged rapist?
Lots of white folks play and love Cards Against Humanity, Pepsi
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Yep...but with Lana being on the shelf. Hopefully, the feud is dead.If I just printed off the cards, does that put me in the clear?
And idolizing alleged rapist wrestling promoters
avengers23
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It's tough at times, because I know the facade he puts on is just a facade. But I feel like he's able to use that to be a better person and lead as a better example, if that makes sense.
He fucked up, went to jail, and he's better for it.
I mean Booker T was in fucking prison. Not jail. PRISON. No beef against him.
Hulk Hogan can fuck off though.
or playing different sides within the context of different storylines (heel authority Steph/face Divas Revolution Steph????)
brisk tacos
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He gives no credit for this story, doesn't know (or care about) minor details, doesn't know who said what or suggested what. Meltzerian to the core. But he said that's how someone else said it, so it's definitely 100% true.
This...exactly this.
There's a difference between learning from your mistakes and being a shithead wondering why Karma is hard to deal with...
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And yet 90% of this thread is always complaining about "HEELS CAN'T DO MOVES"
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Of course.
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Or you know don't have the villain promote how good they are.
Loki didn't talk about all the hospitals he visited in the middle,of avengers. There is a time and place for that.
Loki didn't talk about all the hospitals he visited in the middle,of avengers. There is a time and place for that.
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Seems fair. Brave Heart is still one of my favorite movies ever.
that makes you somewhat of a Nazi
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definitely not. guy's a psychopath.
I wanna believe that he is a reformed guy now as everything I hear coming from him points to that.
Hopefully he'll speak out more openly in the future about the whole ordeal. At the moment all we get is "I was wound up real tight".
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I can't enjoy the Cosby Show at all anymore. It sucks, because I can't even enjoy Theo and Cockroach's antics, or Rudy being a little shitheaded child, or Claire being Claire
Or Denise being Denise.......
Or Denise being Denise.......
I really wish Sting would shave that soul patch. It looks awful
Considering how big the Cosby scandal ended up being I can totally understand how it's hard to watch his stuff anymore. My gf and I went back and watched his big standup special from the 70s and, while i still laughed, it was rough in spots
Considering how big the Cosby scandal ended up being I can totally understand how it's hard to watch his stuff anymore. My gf and I went back and watched his big standup special from the 70s and, while i still laughed, it was rough in spots
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Yea in newspapers and interviews. Also if they are going to do then be consistent.
Steph being. A heel in the opening then being a face for,the divas then being heel is dumb.
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Don't say things you'll regret.
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Forget her. She was worthless and tried to out-Rudy Rudy. She can burn in a circle of hell along with all the other sitcom "added" children like Seven from Married with Children
brisk tacos
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No, but no one would be upset if Tom Hiddleson was in a commercial for a charity during a TV broadcast of The Avengers. Which is basically what the charity promos are. They're bumper segments. It just happens that most wrestlers go by their wrestling name when not wrestling for some reason. They aren't in character when doing those promos.
On top of that, is it really impossible to believe that Triple H and Stephanie give a shit about kids? As in, the characters. Do people really think a heel character is a heel in all aspects of life? Even in the 80s, it would be acknowledged that heels had wives and kids. Are we to believe that they went home and were the same person with their families as they were in the ring with their opponents? Of course not. Mean boss does not equal hates kids, too.
newdayrocks
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What if someone made a supercut of The Cosby Show with BIll Cosby excised? That might be an interesting (and short) experiment.
There's a tremendous difference in complaining about heels breaking character to be their human selves and discussing charity work, i.e. not keeping it kayfabe at all times when it has no bearing on their performance, and criticizing heels for breaking their character to play another character (that character always being "athletic cool movez dude!") when they're actually performing.
The former is stupid to complain about. The latter is a problem endemic to modern wrestling.
HHH and Steph flipping from face to heel in the same segment is absurd. They have no consistency, and thus none of their heel stuff gets any investment because they pretty much do it all while winking and saying "we're only pretending to be bad guys".
They claim RAW is an "action adventure soap opera". Yet they appear to have no consistent rule for whether RAW is in any sort of kayfabe or not. Is RAW a story, or is it half a story that constantly breaks to go "WWE is great and all the heels are actually nice people"?
What's the point in doing any heel stuff if it's immediately followed by the same heel breaking character and telling you they're just pretending? Should the villains of all TV shows stop mid-episode and lecture you about their charity work as actors?
It's all well and good to promote your brand with philanthropy as marketing, but if your face of that is going be Stephanie, then maybe Stephanie shouldn't be playing a heel authority figure on the TV show.
The opening promo of RAW was about their charity for kids with cancer. How can I boo two people advocating donations for cancer research? Am I even supposed to boo them? They act like heels later in the show, but they're total babyfaces in the first segment.
Perspicacity
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Look there is nothing wrong with enjoying problematic media, like even progressive pro wrestling is still backwards as fuck. It is just important to be aware of the affects it has on you and on society as a whole.
As for people who are pieces of shit in real life, that can be a lot more nuanced. It should make you not want to watch Cosby material because that to me seems pretty irreconcilable. For someone like Hogan, I've always thought he was a piece of shit and a racist so it doesn't change my feelings.
As for people who are pieces of shit in real life, that can be a lot more nuanced. It should make you not want to watch Cosby material because that to me seems pretty irreconcilable. For someone like Hogan, I've always thought he was a piece of shit and a racist so it doesn't change my feelings.
Shadow Broker
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Arn Anderson is a badass.
I"m watching WCW Uncensored 1999 and the Four HorsemEN are taking on Kurt Henning and Barry Wend for the tag belts in a lumber Jacks strap match and in the match Kurt Henning got ahold of Arn's strap and punched him with it. Arn got pissed and pulled out a fucking tire iron from the inside of his jacket and knocked out Henning with it. Fucking awesome. I wonder what Arn would've pulled out if Henni ng hit him with a tire iron.
I"m watching WCW Uncensored 1999 and the Four HorsemEN are taking on Kurt Henning and Barry Wend for the tag belts in a lumber Jacks strap match and in the match Kurt Henning got ahold of Arn's strap and punched him with it. Arn got pissed and pulled out a fucking tire iron from the inside of his jacket and knocked out Henning with it. Fucking awesome. I wonder what Arn would've pulled out if Henni ng hit him with a tire iron.
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The heel characters shouldn't do cool moves argument makes no sense, and never has from a kayfabe standpoint.
British Monsoon
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I guess I should work on attaining an encyclopedic knowledge of scumbags in professional wrestling so I don't make any future faux pas. Also, I saw a minion.
here's what Cole would say in the same situation on this weeks RAW :
"you know JBL last night I had a hot dog- oh a drop kick by perfect - and it was really good, you can watch my review on the WWE network "
"I interviewed HHH - hi Ithil - and you can watch it on WWE.com"
Rick Rude sold those like a fucking champ.
oh right it's #IndyPosterThursday
