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Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings |OT| The MCU is now Kung-Fu Fighting
ManaByte
Gold Member
But but but the MCU is dead.
nush
Member
It's almost as if you've never seen a Youtube reacts video before.
What's Cinemacon?
"Welcome to CinemaCon,
the largest and most important gathering of movie theater owners from around the world."
Well they have a vested interest in drumming up trade seeing as the theater business has been in big trouble because of Covid.
I'll reserve judgement of the movie until the normies have seen it.
ManaByte
Gold Member
She’s not a theater owner. She’s one of Campea’s crew (he’s seen it three times now).
nush
Member
No idea who she is.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Dude they only said that because they've fallen behind every other major studio by not building a direct-to-consumer streaming service.
Disney has Disney+/Hulu, WB has HBO Max, Paramount has Paramount+, Universal has Peacock, and MGM is now Amazon Prime Video. Sony is being left behind and it won't be long until shareholders start demanding Vinciquerra's head for not having something to compete with all of that.
sol_bad
Member
Doesn't matter that they don't have a digital platform, it's true what they say. Look at what movies make at the box office compared to home media.
Compare what a theatrical movie would make prior to COVID to a movie released with a dual release during COVID.
No matter how you look at it, a movie released in a traditional manner prior to COVID is always going to make more money and be better for the movie studio.
Dual release movies are the worse thing ever, even worse when done in an HBO Max manner where they are basically "free" as part of the service. They are cannibalising their potential profits hardcore in that manner.
It's been great for consumers, but okay,...
trikster40
Member
Interesting. Look what’s new on Disney+ the same week that Shang Chi comes out: All Hail the King one-shot.
Edit: How do you rotate images you upload directly? Mine always show up sideways even though I took them normal.
Edit: How do you rotate images you upload directly? Mine always show up sideways even though I took them normal.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
‘Shang-Chi’ Bound For Labor Day Weekend Record With $90M+ WW Launch – Box Office Preview
The Labor Day weekend box office, the last frame of summer, which studios typically shy from, is poised for a revolution as Disney debuts the first Asian American Marvel superhero feature Shang-Chi and the Legend of Ten Rings. Studios have held the long belief that no one goes to the movies...
deadline.com
ManaByte
Gold Member
Interesting. Look what’s new on Disney+ the same week that Shang Chi comes out: All Hail the King one-shot.
Edit: How do you rotate images you upload directly? Mine always show up sideways even though I took them normal.
It's already been confirmed that Trevor is in Shang-Chi.
He's seen in a Ten Rings prison practicing a monologue. They mention they were going to kill him, but they kept him alive because they liked his performances. So he's basically a court jester to the Mandarin.
sol_bad
Member
‘Shang-Chi’ Bound For Labor Day Weekend Record With $90M+ WW Launch – Box Office Preview
The Labor Day weekend box office, the last frame of summer, which studios typically shy from, is poised for a revolution as Disney debuts the first Asian American Marvel superhero feature Shang-Chi and the Legend of Ten Rings. Studios have held the long belief that no one goes to the movies...
Hopefully it does better than the current projections, being 3rd behind Black Widow and Fast 9 in this COVID climate isn't a bad thing though. Hopefully it'll have strong legs too.
And c,mon dude, do you have to mention every little thing about these movies that is rumoured or reported behind the scenes?
Seeing Trevor on screen as a surprise would have been nice.
ManaByte
Gold Member
It wasn't rumored or reported behind the scenes. Ben Kingsley was at the fucking Hollywood premiere and they confirmed there that he's in the film.
Hell they even had him doing press for the movie giving interviews about it.
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sol_bad
Member
ManaByte
Gold Member
They literally had him doing junket interviews for the movie.
Sir Ben Kingsley brings back Trevor Slattery role in ‘Shang-Chi’
CHICAGO — Academy Award winner Sir Ben Kingsley, who’s part of the cast of the amazing, “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings” talked to WGN’s Dean Richards. “Shang-Chi” is the new…
wgntv.com
sol_bad
Member
They literally had him doing junket interviews for the movie.
Sir Ben Kingsley brings back Trevor Slattery role in ‘Shang-Chi’
CHICAGO — Academy Award winner Sir Ben Kingsley, who’s part of the cast of the amazing, “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings” talked to WGN’s Dean Richards. “Shang-Chi” is the new…
EEEHHHHH
I had no idea he was doing junkets.
CAB_Life
Member
This man is a privileged, attention seeking whore who grew up in Richmond Hill, if I recall (“started from the bottom” just like Drake did). He’s also apparently unaware or blissfully ignorant of the people who actually paved the way for him like Bruce Lee.
Shang-Chi is going into Fornite tonight. Simu realized "OH SHIT!" and deleted that this morning.
Movie could be good, but he’s repellent.
I mean, he is not wrong.
Shang-Chi is going into Fornite tonight. Simu realized "OH SHIT!" and deleted that this morning.
But damn if a new skin in fortnite doesn't get my kid all jazzed. A Shang-chi skin would get him asking to see it so it is definitely a good marketing move.
strange headache
Banned
sol_bad
Member
User reviews are starting to roll in now. Looks like it will be positively received.
www.rottentomatoes.com
www.imdb.com
letterboxd.com
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Rotten Tomatoes
Marvel Studios' "Shang-Chi and The Legend of The Ten Rings" stars Simu Liu as Shang-Chi, who must confront the past he thought he left behind when he is drawn into the web of the mysterious Ten Rings organization. The film also stars Tony Leung as Wenwu, Awkwafina as Shang-Chi's friend Katy and...
www.rottentomatoes.com
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021) ⭐ 7.4 | Action, Adventure, Fantasy
2h 12m | PG-13
www.imdb.com
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021)
Shang-Chi must confront the past he thought he left behind when he is drawn into the web of the mysterious Ten Rings organization.
letterboxd.com
sol_bad
Member
Does that mean I need to avoid YouTube for 45 days? LOL
nush
Member
You better. I've seen shit and it will come up in your recommendations.
TheDreadLord
Member
I found the movie a bit boring and couldn’t really care much about what was being displayed. However, I can see critics liking it.
It's OK, the usual Marvel stuff but at least its clichés come from Asian cinema (all kinds of Asian cinema - it's almost funny how it snatches and cobbles together bits from wuxia fantasy, HK gangster movies, Jackie Chan kung-fu, etc.) rather than the MCU formula. Simu Liu is OK, just likeable enough to carry the film (his character is a complete non-entity, however) but Tony Leung is fantastic and really gives weight to his character's torment and motivations, as familiar as they are. Michelle Yeoh barely registers, and how much you like Awkwafina's part will basically depend on how much you can tolerate Awkwafina, as she's doing the same bit she does in everything. Aside from the Asian influences making it a bit more interesting than the usual MCU factory line fare, all the studio flaws are present and correct: CGI visual mess ending, characters quipping non-stop (Leung even tells them to give the jokes a rest at one point, which I appreciated even if the characters ignored it) and the huge number of cameos feel like studio uncertainty as to whether fans would accept the movie/character having a place in the MCU. Long story short, if you like MCU movies, there's no reason you won't love this. If you're indifferent, it's a slight improvement on the usual. If you don't like them, you won't like this. I wrote a short review on my blog (along with reviews of some other summer movies) if anyone's interested, though 95% of it is what I wrote above.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Box Office: Marvel’s ‘Shang-Chi’ Opens to $8.8 Million in Thursday Previews
Box Office: Marvel's 'Shang-Chi' opens strong with $8.8 Million in thursday previews
variety.com
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Movie was quite good IMO. Top half of my personal MCU list and much better than Black Widow.
Haven't watched it but Andre is almost as big an attention whore as Simu is. For the record I do like Midnight's Edge for the most part.
Haven't watched it but Andre is almost as big an attention whore as Simu is. For the record I do like Midnight's Edge for the most part.
Toons
Member
This movie has some of the best action scenes of any superhero film.
And it feels very different from other Marvel's film in ways and doesn't forget its roots. Very authentic, has a folklore type of fantasy feel to it. Like if the technology was available this could have been a seminal Asian action film in the 60s and 70s.
I feel bad for anyone who can't enjoy this.
And it feels very different from other Marvel's film in ways and doesn't forget its roots. Very authentic, has a folklore type of fantasy feel to it. Like if the technology was available this could have been a seminal Asian action film in the 60s and 70s.
I feel bad for anyone who can't enjoy this.
I kind of have mixed feelings on the movie. I enjoyed and thought it was pretty good but it felt like it was missing something. I think the fact that the lead actor was one of the weakest points for being emotional moved might be one of it's problems. His dad is interesting and I kind of really wanted to see and hear about more of his backstory.
The earlier parts of the movie where they focused heavily on the fighting scenes were great and really like a lot of folks mentioned felt like jackie chan. I was kind of hoping they would continue with that even when we got to the battle of the rings section. Unfortunately the end battle of the movie was more like a marvel action scene. If they were able to better combine jackie chan like fighting style with marvel epic supernatural battles then that would have been epic.
For those sensitive to the woke. Yes, it is slightly in here and mostly pro feminist I guess. Like all of the male leads whether shang chi or his dad gets whooped by a woman. Fight tons of guys and they win but fight a woman and they lose.
The movie at times did feel like a love letter to kung fu movies at times but the combination of so many different movie I felt kind of weakened it. Like going from a jackie chan skilled fight to a crouching tiger hidden dragon one later on and I'm pretty sure that construction scaffold fight was homage to some martial arts film I can't remember.
I can't remember the music and the last battle seemed a lot bigger in the trailers. I'd give this movie a rating of 8 out of 10. It was a nice little marvel style kung fu movie that does enough right to make it really enjoyable but at times felt like a frankenstein creation with all of the different type of movie elements mixed in.
I kind of wanted to see how his sister created her own empire as well, although I did find her to be a bit boring. I really don't get the whole chi power thing in the movie. Like I thought only one person could have it. I though only one person could have the power of the dragon and then we see the aunt and some other guy training in chi. For a guy who conquered/lived for a thousand years and was a like an evil boss guy shouldn't his army have been a lot bigger and shouldn't he have had a lot more wealth. Like piles of gold and jade just lying in some vault underneath his mountain.
The earlier parts of the movie where they focused heavily on the fighting scenes were great and really like a lot of folks mentioned felt like jackie chan. I was kind of hoping they would continue with that even when we got to the battle of the rings section. Unfortunately the end battle of the movie was more like a marvel action scene. If they were able to better combine jackie chan like fighting style with marvel epic supernatural battles then that would have been epic.
For those sensitive to the woke. Yes, it is slightly in here and mostly pro feminist I guess. Like all of the male leads whether shang chi or his dad gets whooped by a woman. Fight tons of guys and they win but fight a woman and they lose.
It was kind of weird that her fighting death scene were all just noises. You don't see any of her fight. I kind of have mixed feelings on it. Like if it was a father dying then him getting the crap beat out of him until he dies would have been okay but doing that to a woman is not.
The movie at times did feel like a love letter to kung fu movies at times but the combination of so many different movie I felt kind of weakened it. Like going from a jackie chan skilled fight to a crouching tiger hidden dragon one later on and I'm pretty sure that construction scaffold fight was homage to some martial arts film I can't remember.
I can't remember the music and the last battle seemed a lot bigger in the trailers. I'd give this movie a rating of 8 out of 10. It was a nice little marvel style kung fu movie that does enough right to make it really enjoyable but at times felt like a frankenstein creation with all of the different type of movie elements mixed in.
This guy does know that Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Thai, and many other Asian films have had superheros right? And invincible just a few months ago? He seems so narrowly focused just on the MCU.
nush
Member
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I think he means here in the US. Not in other markets.
And I'm not sure how popular Invincible is with general audiences but if you didn't watch it, you wouldn't know the title character is half Asian. Especially because the artwork doesn't show any Asian features on him.
I thought what he wrote was heartfelt and full of joy. Then again, I like to see the best in things.
Dacon
Banned
Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Donnie yen were wowing audiences in the states long before this guy was gestating in his dad's sack. Many of the characters in their films are exactly what you would call superheroes. Anyone even slightly familiar with Kung Fu cinema knows this.
This dude has been acting like asian leads and actors in America didn't exist before this film for the last 2 weeks.
EDIT: Oh and how could I forget Chow Yun Fat. What an Icon.
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He says "The sun rose TODAY to a WORLD where Asian superheroes exist as leads..." kinda sounds like he thinks this is the first time an asian person ever starred in a martial art movie with powers.
Did he have a SINGLE chat with Michelle Yeoh during filming? I mean, that movie won oscars and stuff...in America.
Dacon
Banned
Michelle Yeoh actually starred as a supervillain(she switches sides eventually) in the classic The Heroic Trio, one of my fav over the top movies about asian superheroes defending a city from evil .
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MayauMiao
Member
Pure corporate plant.
nush
Member
Dacon
Banned
Simu ain't shit without CGI.
These dudes were a huge part of my childhood, and the over the top martial arts is why I took to Dragonball so well.