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Sheriff pursuing felonies after Confederate statue torn down

Update:
Looks like they arrested someone already

http://wncn.com/2017/08/15/durham-s...-protesters-who-tore-down-confederate-statue/

Takiyah Thompson was arrested after taking part in a 4 p.m. press conference a North Carolina Central University.

Thompson was charged with:

Disorderly conduct by injury to a statue (Class II Misdemeanor)
Damage to real property (statue as a fixture (Class I Misdemeanor)
Participation in a riot with property damage in excess of $1,500 (Class H Felony)
Inciting others to riot where there is property damage in excess of $1,500 (Class F Felony)
Thompson was seen leaving the Durham County Jail just before 6 p.m.

Protesters will face felony charges for toppling a nearly century-old Confederate statue in front of a North Carolina government building, the sheriff said Tuesday.

Durham County Sheriff Mike Andrews said some of the protesters who tore down the statue Monday had been identified, and investigators were preparing arrest warrants.

"Let me be clear. No one is getting away with what happened yesterday. We will find the people responsible," Andrews said, declining to specify the charges.

Law enforcement officers took video throughout the protest but didn't intervene as protesters brought out a ladder, climbed up to attach a rope and then pulled the bronze Confederate soldier from its pedestal. After it fell, some began kicking the statue, while others took photos standing or sitting on it. The protest was in response to violence and a death at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend.

Andrews said his staff met with community leaders before the Durham demonstration, and he was aware of the potential for vandalism. But he said he used restraint because of the risk of injuries if deputies moved in.

"Had I ordered my deputies to engage a hostile crowd, there would have been serious injuries," he said. "Statues can be replaced. Lives cannot."

The Confederate Soldiers Monument, dedicated in 1924, stood in front of an old courthouse building that serves as local government offices. The crumpled and dented bronze figure has been taken to a warehouse for storage.

The leader of the local chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Doug Nash, said Tuesday that he's disappointed by the toppling of the statue as well as other recent violence.

"The only thing I'd like to say is that I'm very saddened by all this mess that's going on," Nash said by phone.

Although the violence in Virginia has prompted fresh talk by government officials about bringing down symbols of the Confederacy around the South, North Carolina has a law protecting them. The 2015 law prevents removing such monuments on public property without permission from state officials.

North Carolina is one of only three states — along with Virginia and Georgia — that have 90 or more Confederate monuments, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. A state tally shows at least 120 Civil War monuments around North Carolina, with the vast majority dedicated to the Confederacy. Around 50 are located at contemporary or historic courthouses. There are Confederate statues at the state's flagship university and Capitol grounds.

In response to the statue in Durham being torn down, Democratic North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper tweeted: "The racism and deadly violence in Charlottesville is unacceptable but there is a better way to remove these monuments."

Some people who passed by the empty pedestal on Tuesday expressed mixed feelings about the statue and its fate.

"I've walked by this statue several times in the last few weeks. And I've wondered, if it is appropriate," said Emily Yeatts, an attorney in Durham. "If there IS a way to remember and honor, as it says, 'The boys who wore the gray,' without also lending some legitimacy to the cause for which they fought. This statue has struck me as out of place in Durham, for some time. And while I was surprised to see the news footage last night, it seemed right."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/charges-sought-toppled-confederate-statue-49226601
 

Kensation

Member
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No there isn't a way to "honor the boys in grey" because they shouldn't fucking be honored. They should certainly be remembered as being horrible sacks of shit though.
 
If thousands of people turn themselves in as being complicit do you think they'd spend all the resources going forward or realize it's time to give up.
 

Sianos

Member
"Let me be clear. No one is getting away with [tearing down a cheaply produced symbol manufactured by a hate group a century after the civil war ended that was erected with the intention of making sure people of color feel unsafe] yesterday. We will find the people responsible,"

there we go, i've put his statement into context
 
"Find a better way to remove the statues" when a law went on the books in 2015 that they can't be removed or even altered without some historical society signing off on it.
 
These people hold more respect for dead traitors to their country than they have for the previous President who actually tried to unite the nation.
 

Not

Banned
Meanwhile, the four white men who beat Deandre Harris with poles still free and clear.

American Priorities.
 

Dhx

Member
There should be felony charges. They took a brave stance and must deal with the consequences. It wouldn't be brave otherwise.

This is a fantastic opportunity for jury nullification, however. I'd love to sit on that jury.
 
No there isn't a way to "honor the boys in grey" because they shouldn't fucking be honored. They should certainly be remembered as being horrible sacks of shit though.

Not everyone who fought in the war agreed.
Some people were simply given a gun and told to stand in a square and shoot.

Do I want a statue of them? No. Do I have sympathy for the Confederate army? Absolutely not. Do I want to remember that there were individuals, people that were dragged into it and fought bravely, however wrong their army was? You know, kinda yeah.
 
I mean does he really have a choice in this? I'm against these statues existing in public non-museum settings but his job is to uphold the law and this is pretty illegal even if you do argue that it's morally correct
 

Slayven

Member
I am sure the ACLU will work with the authorities to make sure the protestors are prosecuted to the full extant of the law
 

C.Mongler

Member
As Sheriff Dildo starts his round-up of these ne'er do wells, I'd like to take this moment to remind everyone that as far as I know at time of posting, 5+ nazis who nearly beat Deandre Harris to a pulp in Charlotesville on Saturday are all walkin' free, living their lives right now.
 
One of the conservative boards I go to is calling the people who tore the statues down domestic terrorists and making ISIS comparisons. There are no hope for people like that, ever, at all.
 

Nafai1123

Banned
"The racism and deadly violence in Charlottesville is unacceptable but there is a better way to remove these monuments."

Uhh....no there isn't, that's the problem. Civilian action is the best solution.
 

Fercho

Member
But of course, they also need to set "examples" in order to avoid more situations like this one. Instead of make the decision to tear them all at once.
 

tmarg

Member
They've had 150 years to remove the statues their way, it doesn't seem to be effective. I'd almost think they aren't even trying.
 

Saganator

Member
One of the conservative boards I go to is calling the people who tore the statues down domestic terrorists and making ISIS comparisons. There are no hope for people like that, ever, at all.

Days after one of them drove a car into a crowd of people, which is straight out of the ISIS playbook.
 

Dehnus

Member
That is why you all do it together, if they want to put thousands of people in jail, than let them try.

Sure that is inviting them to start camps, but let's be serious now, they want camps anyway. Ask Mister Pence and his plans for Transgender, Gays and Bisexual people.
 
I mean does he really have a choice in this? I'm against these statues existing in public non-museum settings but his job is to uphold the law and this is pretty illegal even if you do argue that it's morally correct

Pretty much. They knowingly broke the law in front of the police, it's not a surprise that the police are going to charge them with breaking the law. You don't get a pass for occupying the moral highground (but you hopefully get a very lenient sentence).
 

Kettch

Member
In response to the statue in Durham being torn down, Democratic North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper tweeted: "The racism and deadly violence in Charlottesville is unacceptable but there is a better way to remove these monuments."

You've had 100 years to do that. Too late.
 

Fox Mulder

Member
Not everyone who fought in the war agreed.
Some people were simply given a gun and told to stand in a square and shoot.

Do I want a statue of them? No. Do I have sympathy for the Confederate army? Absolutely not. Do I want to remember that there were individuals, people that were dragged into it and fought bravely, however wrong their army was? You know, kinda yeah.

Great, that's what a museum is for. These shitty statues were put up in public places like courthouses to intimidate.
 

KHarvey16

Member
The DA in Durham County is a democrat. I don't see this effort going all that far or being that serious.

I am sure the ACLU will work with the authorities to make sure the protestors are prosecuted to the full extant of the law

The ACLU argues for the removal of confederate monuments and flags from public areas.
 

Slayven

Member
Not everyone who fought in the war agreed.
Some people were simply given a gun and told to stand in a square and shoot.

Do I want a statue of them? No. Do I have sympathy for the Confederate army? Absolutely not. Do I want to remember that there were individuals, people that were dragged into it and fought bravely, however wrong their army was? You know, kinda yeah.

Fought bravely for the right to own, rape, and murder another human being. Real brave tstuff
 

Mesoian

Member
"I've walked by this statue several times in the last few weeks. And I've wondered, if it is appropriate," said Emily Yeatts, an attorney in Durham. "If there IS a way to remember and honor, as it says, 'The boys who wore the gray,' without also lending some legitimacy to the cause for which they fought. This statue has struck me as out of place in Durham, for some time. And while I was surprised to see the news footage last night, it seemed right."

Oh fuck off. Jesus Christ. "Honor the soldiers but not their message"

The fuck outta here.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
I mean does he really have a choice in this? I'm against these statues existing in public non-museum settings but his job is to uphold the law and this is pretty illegal even if you do argue that it's morally correct
yes. much like a cop letting you off with warning instead of a speeding ticket, they don't have to pursue.

I am sure the ACLU will work with the authorities to make sure the protestors are prosecuted to the full extant of the law
wut?
 
Days after one of them drove a car into a crowd of people, which is straight out of the ISIS playbook.
The posters on that board also think those that tore down the statue should be prosecuted AND should have to pay to replace the statue.

Other posters think they should take the same rope that tore down the statue, and use that rope to hang the people who tore the statue down....

The divide in this country is insane and only going to get worse before it gets better.
 

sangreal

Member
No there isn't a way to "honor the boys in grey" because they shouldn't fucking be honored. They should certainly be remembered as being horrible sacks of shit though.

Even the poorer population forced into the Confederate army through conscription?

I'm all for tearing down the monuments (which weren't erected in good faith in the first place) for the record. I'm just not seeing what makes every individual soldier a "horrible piece of shit". It's like condemning every foot soldier in the Nazi army
 

mazillion

Member
Even though those statues should be taken down the sheriff is still doing the right thing (regardless of his motivation).

We have laws, we can't just allow people to vandalize and destroy public properly just because they don't like something.

The right way to take down the statue is the civil way. Petition for it, go to the city council and call for action, get the community involved, etc.
 
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