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[TheRealTalker]

I want to ask...

how far down the shit hole does the IDF have to go before those apologetics wake up and see reality?


No one said Hamas was the good guys... but killing innocent families every hour creates hatred and a lust for revenge


"oh they shouldn't have voted for Hamas"

I wonder WHY they did

 

[zer0blivion]

Hamas could have... not launched missiles into Israel?

And Israel could not keep Palestinians under their boot in an open-air prison.

 

[werks]

Hamas could have... not launched missiles into Israel?

So the answer to targeting hospitals and children is HAMAS!

 

[Toxi]

Hamas could have... not launched missiles into Israel?

Yes, clearly that's the first response one should have to learning that a refugee camp and a hospital were just attacked by the military.

 

[markot]

I want to say "who do the IDF think they're fooling?" as they slaughter more and more innocents in the name of self-preservation

Spoiler

(ethnic cleansing trending towards genocide)

, but the fact of the matter is... they're fooling a lot of people.

Disgusting. And disgusting that my country supports and condones this bullshit.

Ethnic cleansing? You do realise they could literally kill everyone in Gaza in a day if they wanted to.

Show me a war where innocents werent caught in the cross fire. Its tragic, but pointing towards Israel as some kind of egregious evil? Look at almost any other conflict. Ever.

 

[zer0blivion]

Ethnic cleansing? You do realise they could literally kill everyone in Gaza in a day if they wanted to.

Show me a war where innocents werent caught in the cross fire. Its tragic, but pointing towards Israel as some kind of egregious evil? Look at almost any other conflict. Ever.

It's not ethnic-cleansing, it's just mowing the grass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDP7ZSJlikA

 

[markot]

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Ethnic cleansing? You do realise they could literally kill everyone in Gaza in a day if they wanted to.

Show me a war where innocents werent caught in the cross fire. Its tragic, but pointing towards Israel as some kind of egregious evil? Look at almost any other conflict. Ever.

They seem to be playing the long game. I don't see any other outcome given Israeli rhetoric other than "every brown person in Gaza is sent elsewhere or buried".

This isn't a war. It's closer to genocide.

 

[makingmusic476]

Hamas could have... not launched missiles into Israel?

To provide some much needed context to the "Israel is just defending itself from unprovoked rocket attacks" line the western (edit: US) networks have been drilling into people.

The Nation:

Israel deliberately provoked this war with Hamas. Without producing a shred of evidence, it accused the political faction of kidnapping and murdering three settlers near Hebron. Four weeks and almost 700 lives later, Israel has yet to produce any evidence demonstrating Hamas’s involvement. During ten days of Operation Brother’s Keeper in the West Bank, Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011. It’s these Israeli provocations that precipitated the Hamas rocket fire to which Israel claims left it with no choice but a gruesome military operation.

Salon:

For most media outlets, the current crisis began with the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in the West Bank. This is, of course, an arbitrary starting point. Just one day before the kidnappings, a Palestinian man and a 10-year-old child were killed in Gaza by an Israeli airstrike. Why wasn’t that the starting point of the violence? Has the media internalized Israel’s narrative to such an extent that they only see Israel as “responding” to violence rather than initiating it?

Israel initially blamed Hamas for the teens’ kidnapping, and “responded” by going on a violent rampage in the West Bank, invading homes, killing demonstrators, and arresting hundreds of Palestinians, including 60 Hamas members who had been freed in an earlier prisoner swap. Imagine the opposite scenario for a moment: When Israeli troops were caught on tape killing unarmed Palestinian teens just a few weeks before the kidnapping of the Israeli teens, imagine if Hamas responded by invading Israeli homes, shooting Israeli demonstrators and kidnapping hundreds of Israeli troops. Would media outlets cover such actions with the same sympathy and understanding afforded to Israel’s actions?

Edit:

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

Because the IDF doesn't have any motivation to justify all civilian casualties as being engineered by Hamas, removing the IDF of any accountability and painting Hamas as an even greater villain worthy of even greater repercussions?

 

[docbon]

Ethnic cleansing? You do realise they could literally kill everyone in Gaza in a day if they wanted to.

that would be a fantastic idea if their aim was to lose absolutely all international support in the blink of an eye.

edit: not to mention you're confusing genocide and ethnic cleansing.

 

[iqubal]

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

You're drunk. Go back to bikini bottom spongebob.

 

[Toxi]

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

So you basically have no clue what's happening?

 

[markot]

To provide some much needed context to the "Israel is just defending itself from unprovoked rocket attacks" line the western networks has been drilling into people.

The Nation:



Salon:

Um, no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

Its to stop this.

On 10 March, Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group that controls the Gaza Strip, unveiled a monument to its rocket attacks on Israeli cities and towns, a life-sized model of an M-75 rocket in Gaza City. The group declared that the attacks "managed to take the battle to the heart of the Zionist entity (Israel)"

Money well spent.

 

[Dan]

Israel to Gaza: "Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself"

That's a reductive generalization, but that's all I can think of every time the IDF blames Hamas for the bombing of some group of Palestinian civilians.

 

[Codeblue]

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

You're either being disingenuous or you're suffering from cognitive dissonance when you say you aren't pro-Israel. You are certainly pro-Israel, even if you're somehow not aware of it. Your post is essentially a list of Israeli propaganda bullet points.

Israel has a right to defend itself, human shields, terror tunnels, having children killed as a PR ploy, it's all there while simultaneously absolving Israel of any responsibility and disregarding third party eye witness accounts that prove that the IDF is not being truthful.

Come on.

 

[werks]

People that rather believe Hamas over the I.D.F. sicken me. The I.D.F. has shown aerial photos proving the volley that hit both of those areas was shot from within Gaza by Hamas itself. One of them also hit the ocean and one was intercepted over Ashkelon.

I wonder if the same people will also believe Al-Qaeda over the U.S. army.

Aren't you the scumbag IDF soldier that would be ok with taking human shields?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44525898&postcount=2745

I implied it? by saying what, I protected myself? I think every soldier protects himself. The fact "human shield" was the main topic in the thread in that exact moment is something entirely else.

However, I did admit, if I was still in service and times would get rough, I just might use it if it could save my life. Guess I'll never know.

Man, what is it with IDF "soldiers," the other guy was just as big of a shit bag as you. I've 12 years of US Army active duty time and 48 months combat time. I would fucking rather die on my feet then live by hiding behind women and children.

 

[Aaron]

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Factually untrue. Weapons have only been found in abandoned schools, and there have only been two cases of this in four years.

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Now this is pure fantasy. If Hamas has such extensive tunnels, why have they caused absolutely no damage?

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

Yes. That side is Israel. They started the attacks every single time, and they will continue them until Gaza is completely broken.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Um, no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

Its to stop this.

In the sense that if there are no living Palestinians left in Gaza the attacks will stop, sure.

 

[Fornaximus]

Yeah, keep on pushing your ethnic cleansing of Palestinian children, Israel. You're sure to win hearts and minds like that. Any day now the world is going to totally come to their senses about defending yourself from all those mean kids.

 

[jerry1594]

They have kids sign bombs. This fucking country man.

 

[m_shortpants]

You're either being disingenuous or you're suffering from cognitive dissonance when you say you aren't pro-Israel. You are certainly pro-Israel, even if you're somehow not aware of it. Your post is essentially a list of Israeli propaganda bullet points.

Israel has a right to defend itself, human shields, terror tunnels, having children killed as a PR ploy, it's all there while simultaneously absolving Israel of any responsibility and disregarding third party eye witness accounts that prove that the IDF is not being truthful.

Come on.

I actually thought it was a satirical post. Wow.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

So the IDF is telling the Palestinians stop hitting yourself, why are hitting yourself?

 

[Toxi]

I have to wonder what sort of shitbag would fire on a hospital.

 

[markot]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

 

[m_shortpants]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

Nice deflection.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

I'm glad that you're recognising that this is as bad those other atrocities.

 

[Codeblue]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

This is another baffling line of thought. If we can't spotlight every injustice, we shouldn't speak out against any?

 

[iqubal]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

And there is the proof, that you are pro Israel. Good night from bikini bottom.

 

[markot]

Nice deflection.

Yes because I remember that one time on the internet a discussion on Israel and Palestine actually changed someones mind!

And it is a legitmage question, where was this rage when Sudan was killing hunderds of thousands? Where was this rage when.... insert thing that happened recently that was much worse then this.

Why does Israel and Palestine deserve so much emotion when so many others do not?

Its not baffling, im asking why people think these lives are worth more? How much time did people spend on the south and darfur sudanese? Why can Israel doing something get people marching on embassies?

 

[Dai101]

Aren't you the scumbag IDF soldier that would be ok with taking human shields?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44525898&postcount=2745


Man, what is it with IDF "soldiers," the other guy was just as big of a shit bag as you. I've 12 years of US Army active duty time and 48 months combat time. I would fucking rather die on my feet then live by hiding behind women and children.

Yep. He is. I recommend to not engage in feeding that scumbag troll and let him starve.

His fucking propaganda and tired rethoric can stuck it in his fucking ass.


Israel’s Crimes against the People of Gaza: Death Toll

Reports indicate that as of Sunday, July 27, 8:35 p.m., the death toll in Gaza as a result of Israel’s attacks stood at 1,032. On July 26, just before a 12-hour humanitarian ceasefire agreed upon by Israel and the Palestinian resistance came into force, Israeli missiles hit a home in the town of Beit Hanoun killing an entire 18-member family inside.

Six thousand two hundred and thirty three Palestinians have been injured since the assault began, including 1994 children, 1169 women and 257 elderly.

According to al-Qudra, 189 Palestinians were killed in north Gaza, 297 in central Gaza, 129 in al-Wista, 306 in Khan Younis, and 111 in Rafah. From the 6233 injured, 1912 were injured in north Gaza,1853 in central Gaza, 851 in al-Wista,906 in Khan Younis, and 711 in Rafah.

Al-Qudra also posted the latest Gaza casualty statistics. From the 1032 killed, 236 were children, 93 were women, and 47 were elderly. From the 6233 injured, 1994 are children, 1169 are women, and 257 are elderly.

Medics said eight Palestinians were killed on Friday in incidents near the West Bank cities of Nablus and Hebron – the sort of death toll reminiscent of previous uprisings against Israel’s prolonged military rule there.
(NOTE: The West Bank is not near of Gaza. Hamas doesn't operate there and people are being killed and oppresed too)

On another note, Hamas agreed to a 24-hour humanitarian truce with Israel in the Gaza Strip that should start within the hour, the group’s spokesman said on Sunday.

“In response to UN intervention and considering the situation of our people and the occasion of Eid, it has been agreed among resistance factions to endorse a 24-hour humanitarian calm, starting from 2:00 pm on Sunday,” Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters. Israeli artillery guns also fired barrages into the Gaza Strip, Israeli media reported.

However, Israeli strikes continued to hit Gaza past 2:00 pm, including inside Gaza City. One senior minister said Israel must step up its offensive. “After what we saw this morning, it is clear we need to resume fighting with even greater force,” Communications Minister Gilad Erdan told Army Radio.

The UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) for Palestinian refugees reports that the numbers of Internally Displaced People (IDPs) in 83 UNRWA schools continue to increase, now exceeding 167,269, an increase in one day from 167,269 displaced Palestinians.

Since June 1, 93 UNRWA installations have been targeted on multiple occasions.

In addition, an estimated 20,000 displaced persons are sheltering with relatives and in public schools, mosques, churches, unfinished buildings and open areas bringing the total to almost 183,000 internally displaced people of a population of 1.86 million. The number of displaced people is now more than triple the peak number from the 2008/9 Israeli attack.

The Gaza-based Palestinian Center for Human Rights said 81.5 per cent of those killed were civilians and 24 per cent of them children.

“One child has been killed each hour in Gaza over the past two days,” said Kyung-Wha Kang, Assistant Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and UN Deputy Emergency Relief Coordinator on July 23.

Forty-three per cent of the territory in Gaza has been subject to Israeli evacuation warnings or designated “no-go areas” by the Occupation Forces, the UN said. However, no place is safe from Israeli attack in the besieged coastal enclave. Shelling from land and sea as well as air strikes have not left any region untouched.

Israel claims that it has given advance warning to all residents to leave their homes prior to a bombing raid. “Where in the world can they go?” many have responded, pointing out that Israel’s “border” with Gaza is shut tight while Egypt too has kept its border closed.

Israel is bombing hospitals and ambulances

The Israeli crimes have reached untold proportions. The military “targeted specific sites” in the al-Wafa rehabilitation hospital compound, the Gaza strip’s only rehabilitation hospital, “in light of several occasions in which fire was opened” and “despite repeated warnings against such activities,” it said; it was fired on because it was within 100 meters of a rocket site, but they knew the hospital itself was clean of munitions. “The military said that they were not only going to shell the facility, but that it would be fired upon so heavily that they recommended all people in the hospital evacuate.” Doctors were forced to leave the premises with their patients, including 14 of whom were paralyzed or in a coma.

Furthermore, on July 11, 2014 the army fired five missiles at el-Wafa, taking out part of the hospital’s fourth floor. The first blast was a smaller “warning strike,” followed by four significantly larger blasts.

On July 21, Israeli shells left four dead and 60 wounded at the Al-Aqsa Hospital in Deir al Balah.

The Zionists repeated their claim on July 23 that the attacks were justified as military targets and that warnings were given for civilians to vacate the hospital. “(W)arnings have been conveyed directly to the hospital administration and other Palestinian officials,” they said.

A spokesman for the Palestinian Minister of Health reported that one of their ambulances was targeted by airstrikes on its way to Gaza European hospital from Nasser hospital in Khan Younis. The driver, doctor and nurse were injured after being hit by one missile, but were able to flee before the ambulance was hit by another two strikes that destroyed it.

Hospitals were also facing continuous power outages, as electricity has fallen by more than 70 per cent as a result of Israeli shelling and the siege itself, which even prior to the assault had reduced availability to eight-hour stints.

A Norwegian doctor working at the Shifa Hospital, Gaza’s largest medical facility, has written an open letter urging American president Obama to visit and spend a night among its workers.

“I invite you – spend one night – just one night – with us in Shifa. Disguised as a cleaner, maybe,” wrote Dr. Mads Gilbert. “I am convinced, 100%, it would change history.”

“Nobody with a heart and power could ever walk away from a night in Shifa without being determined to end the slaughter of the Palestinian people,” he added.

Food needs

“The food needs in Gaza are urgent,” says UN World Food Program Country Director Pablo Recalde. “We are seeing the effectiveness of WFP’s food assistance programmes, which provides the opportunity for a rapid response and flexibility to scale-up emergency food assistance if the need arises.”

Since the latest wave of fighting began, the agency has provided emergency food rations and vouchers to more than 20,000 displaced people. It has appealed for $20 million to continue its food assistance programs to more than 600,000 of the most vulnerable people in the area.

Geo breakdown of fatalities:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel...rss&utm_campaign=israels-crimes-as-of-july-27

 

[Toxi]

Yes because I remember that one time on the internet a discussion on Israel and Palestine actually changed someones mind!

And it is a legitmage question, where was this rage when Sudan was killing hunderds of thousands? Where was this rage when.... insert thing that happened recently that was much worse then this.

Why does Israel and Palestine deserve so much emotion when so many others do not?

Tell me how many billions of dollars in military spending the US gives to Sudan every year.

 

[Lowmelody]

Hamas, you mean the guys who use schools to launch attacks from and store weapons?

Hamas was attacking Israel, its spend millions upon millions of dollars in devising a system of tunnels, to attack Israel. It uses every trick in the book, to attack Israel. Its engaged in a PR war, against Israel.

Im not pro Israeli by any stretch of the imagination, but Israel is responding to attacks.

I dont believe any report from any side straight out of the area.

But I do know one side has an incentive to have the other side kill as many innocents as possible, and does its best to make sure this is the case.

No. Israel is the occupying force and as such they do not get to claim self defense, at all. What they do get is to deal with the fact that Palestinians will struggle and resist their long term and systematic destruction and will claw back the same basic human rights that everyone else who calls themselves a democracy enjoys and Israel leverages it's military might to deny. The only moral thing Israel can do to stop the violence is to remove their knee from the throat of an entire people. To expect an entire culture of people to accept perpetual occupation, humiliation, abuse and eventual extinction quietly and without retaliation like a bled baby lamb is putrid.

 

[makingmusic476]

Yes because I remember that one time on the internet a discussion on Israel and Palestine actually changed someones mind!

And it is a legitmage question, where was this rage when Sudan was killing hunderds of thousands? Where was this rage when.... insert thing that happened recently that was much worse then this.

Why does Israel and Palestine deserve so much emotion when so many others do not?

I used to be a staunch Israel supporter.

Back when my entire knowledge of the subject was "arabs attacked Israel a bunch of times cuz they hate Jews", and things like settlements were things I'd never heard of.

Information can change minds, and if you think otherwise you're suggesting that our species is incapable of learning.

 

[TheRealTalker]

It is like looking at a rhythmic pattern

He fails with Plan A... on to Plan B

Fails with some more plans... becomes quiet for awhile and then rinse and repeat

 

[iqubal]

it is like looking at a rhythmic pattern


he fails with Plan A... on to Plan B


Fails with some more plans


becomes quiet for awhile and then rinse and repeat

Agreed.

 

[markot]

No. Israel is the occupying force and as such they do not get to claim self defense, at all. What they do get is to deal with the fact that Palestinians will struggle and resist their long term and systematic destruction and will claw back the same basic human rights that everyone else who calls themselves a democracy enjoys and Israel leverages it's military might to deny. The only moral thing Israel can do to stop the violence is to remove their knee from the throat of an entire people. To expect an entire culture of people to accept perpetual occupation, humiliation, abuse and eventual extinction quietly and without retaliation like a bled baby lamb is putrid.

Yet in the west bank, where Israel actually has settlements.... how many rockets?

Hamas is in the business of suffering, it doesnt want a better life for the palestinians, thats when it loses its relavence.

 

[RustyNails]

Yes because I remember that one time on the internet a discussion on Israel and Palestine actually changed someones mind!

And it is a legitmage question, where was this rage when Sudan was killing hunderds of thousands? Where was this rage when.... insert thing that happened recently that was much worse then this.

Why does Israel and Palestine deserve so much emotion when so many others do not?

Its not baffling, im asking why people think these lives are worth more? How much time did people spend on the south and darfur sudanese? Why can Israel doing something get people marching on embassies?

Do you think South Africa was receiving unfair attention until the fall of Apartheid as well.

Hamas is in the business of suffering, it doesnt want a better life for the palestinians, thats when it loses its relavence.

Good talking point. Did you get it straight from hasbara manual? Hamas also runs hospitals, medical supplies, food and water supplies and provides social services to people in Gaza. You have no fucking clue about the situation.

 

[Lafiel]

Yes because I remember that one time on the internet a discussion on Israel and Palestine actually changed someones mind!

And it is a legitmage question, where was this rage when Sudan was killing hunderds of thousands? Where was this rage when.... insert thing that happened recently that was much worse then this.

Why does Israel and Palestine deserve so much emotion when so many others do not?

Its not baffling, im asking why people think these lives are worth more? How much time did people spend on the south and darfur sudanese? Why can Israel doing something get people marching on embassies?

This is retarded.

Most of the western nations that the majority of GAF are from ACTIVELY support Israel and fund it's warcrimes.

Hence the importance of going out on the streets and protesting about it and actively supporting boycott campaigns.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

I hadn't been on a GAF in a while and thought to myself. I wonder if there's another thread about Israel. No...there can't possi--oh.

Oh.

 

[makingmusic476]

Yet in the west bank, where Israel actually has settlements.... how many rockets?

Hamas is in the business of suffering, it doesnt want a better life for the palestinians, thats when it loses its relavence.

On the other hand, it could be argued that Hamas' rockets eventually lead to the removal of settlements from Gaza, while the West Bank's peace allowed land grabs to continue unhindered.

Now whether things were better pre-seige/blockade or not, I can't say.

 

[DR2K]

Hitlers legacy lives on in Israel I see.

 

[Toxi]

Yet in the west bank, where Israel actually has settlements.... how many rockets?

Hamas is in the business of suffering, it doesnt want a better life for the palestinians, thats when it loses its relavence.

Why are you talking about Hamas when the IDF just bombed a hospital and a refugee camp?

 

[genjiZERO]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

Hey, at least you're admitting IDF are a bunch of murderous butchers too.

 

[Chumly]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

God dam moving down that chart. What are you at now. I forgot if it's 6 or 7. Bu bu but what about everyone else!

It's embarrassing at this point.

 

[markot]

Do you think South Africa was receiving unfair attention until the fall of Apartheid as well.

No of course not.

But I just dont see why Israel attacking Gaza can get people in Paris out on teh streets, while Sudan actually, in real life, while we watch, commits ethnic cleansing and genocide, and doesnt warrant... anything. Its leader condemned as a war criminal, except by the Arab league and a few other groups.

Sudan is how far from Gaza? Must suck not to be born in Gaza, people actually care when someone kills you there.



This is retarded.

Most of the western nations that the majority of GAF are from ACTIVELY support Israel and fund it's warcrimes.

Hence the importance of going out on the streets and protesting about it and actively supporting boycott campaigns.

America funds Turkey, Turkey is responsible for hte deaths of how many kurds now?

America funds Egypt... America funds... etc...

There are no short number of evil regiemes the US supports with money. Show me the boycott campaigns.

 

[zer0blivion]

No of course not.

But I just dont see why Israel attacking Gaza can get people in Paris out on teh streets, while Sudan actually, in real life, while we watch, commits ethnic cleansing and genocide, and doesnt warrant... anything. Its leader condemned as a war criminal, except by the Arab league and a few other groups.

Sudan is how far from Gaza? Must suck not to be born in Gaza, people actually care when someone kills you there.



This is retarded.

Most of the western nations that the majority of GAF are from ACTIVELY support Israel and fund it's warcrimes.

Hence the importance of going out on the streets and protesting about it and actively supporting boycott campaigns.

America funds Turkey, Turkey is responsible for hte deaths of how many kurds now?

America funds Egypt... America funds... etc...

There are no short number of evil regiemes the US supports with money. Show me the boycott campaigns.

Why's everyone picking on Israel?

 

[Codeblue]

Yet in the west bank, where Israel actually has settlements.... how many rockets?

Hamas is in the business of suffering, it doesnt want a better life for the palestinians, thats when it loses its relavence.

Israel is definitely occupying Gaza, and to ignore that is to ignore the blockade and every other way Israel controls the region.

 

[KtSlime]

Yet in the west bank, where Israel actually has settlements.... how many rockets?

Hamas is in the business of suffering, it doesnt want a better life for the palestinians, thats when it loses its relavence.

Both sides gain some benefit from the deaths of innocent Palestinians, you shouldn't paint it as uniquely Hamas. They act this way because they can see their brothers and sisters have gained nothing via 'cooperation', so many unfortunately feel there is no other recourse but to fight.
Israel is the oppressor, Gaza the oppressed, of course they will fight till the bitter end for their freedom, they are human.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

Im just glad the world is up in arms about this. It reminds me of all thost protests oustide of Sudanese embassies when they were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims. Or when the Turks were ethnically cleansing Kurds.... or the dozens of other examples.

Whatever.

I thought Israel was different from Sudan and Turkey, they are considered as a forward Western free world democratic country which are supported by 1st world countries to show the allegedly backward Middle Eastern nations how a democratic country runs there? No?

 

[genjiZERO]

No of course not.

But I just dont see why Israel attacking Gaza can get people in Paris out on teh streets, while Sudan actually, in real life, while we watch, commits ethnic cleansing and genocide, and doesnt warrant... anything. Its leader condemned as a war criminal, except by the Arab league and a few other groups.

Sudan is how far from Gaza? Must suck not to be born in Gaza, people actually care when someone kills you there.


This is retarded.

Most of the western nations that the majority of GAF are from ACTIVELY support Israel and fund it's warcrimes.

Hence the importance of going out on the streets and protesting about it and actively supporting boycott campaigns.

America funds Turkey, Turkey is responsible for hte deaths of how many kurds now?

America funds Egypt... America funds... etc...

There are no short number of evil regiemes the US supports with money. Show me the boycott campaigns.

I'm confused. So what if there are other evil things in the world? It doesn't mean Israel's evil is justified or shouldn't be condemned.