Sorta. Some areas are only accessible on the Neutral route, a couple of those contain Fiends.
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Shin Megami Tensei Community Thread: Be Your True Demon
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Sorta. Some areas are only accessible on the Neutral route, a couple of those contain Fiends.
Wait, there are some exclusive to ng+ too, yeah?
I guess there are a few I still haven't fought yet...
cj_iwakura
Member
Hehehe.
There's a specific rule to him. If after six(?) turns he's fully buffed or your team's fully debuffed, he casts God's Breath. You have to keep your buffs/debuffs active. And you can't take any null elemental/physical/etc. skills.
I have a video of how I beat him if you like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouDg4_PhvY4
If not, just watch the first 30 seconds to see my setup.
Wow, level 80s? You're fucking insane.
Also, a move that
Completely heals him at low health?
Thanks, though...
Edit: Is there a reason you have
Void death/charm on? are they not affected by the resistance reset?
cj_iwakura
Member
Those don't completely null it, those are spells that prevent it from working. Null is the auto-null skill. Getting hit by an AOE Charm is suicide during that fight.
Also, that auto heal only happens once. You can do a lot of damage REAL fast if you're lucky(and faster with higher levels), I just got sick of grinding. I usually kill super bosses at lower than optimal levels. I killed the Demi-Fiend at 98/93/93, and Sephiroth in KH1 at 80 something(and he is a joke).
FYI, Seraph is in human form for the resistances, and the HIGH crit rate of her standard attack.
I've been making more progress in Digital Devil Saga 1 and have a couple of questions.
So I defeated
Also are there any advantages to human forms at all? I remember reading somewhere that there were, but I haven't figured out what. Although to be fair I haven't experimented much.
So I defeated
Beck and now I'm back at the karma temple looking for Sera.
-Is this the final dungeon in the game?
-Roughly how many hours should it take me to clear it?
-Are the extra bosses worth it? When should I start thinking of tackling them? Demi Fiend seems fun, but I don't have time for NG± as I plan to start Apocalypse on release next tuesday
-Any late story boss that requires some kind of preparation regarding build or skills? I think only two bosses have given me trouble so far, but the game has been relatively easy. Just asking to be sure
-Is this the final dungeon in the game?
-Roughly how many hours should it take me to clear it?
-Are the extra bosses worth it? When should I start thinking of tackling them? Demi Fiend seems fun, but I don't have time for NG± as I plan to start Apocalypse on release next tuesday
-Any late story boss that requires some kind of preparation regarding build or skills? I think only two bosses have given me trouble so far, but the game has been relatively easy. Just asking to be sure
Also are there any advantages to human forms at all? I remember reading somewhere that there were, but I haven't figured out what. Although to be fair I haven't experimented much.
cj_iwakura
Member
-You'll know when you're at the final dungeon, but yes, you're very close.
-YES. Lots of fun, huge bonuses for DDS2. Demi-Fiend is only NG+, and it'll take you more time to prepare for him and fight him than some entire RPGs take.
-Outside of Demi-Fiend? Not really, they're all pushovers.
-YES. Lots of fun, huge bonuses for DDS2. Demi-Fiend is only NG+, and it'll take you more time to prepare for him and fight him than some entire RPGs take.
-Outside of Demi-Fiend? Not really, they're all pushovers.
Yes. Innate immunity to status effects(mostly).
Kazuma Kaneko Works IV releasing in Japan in November 2016.
cj_iwakura
Member
Wow. How!?
Strange Journey and Raidou at last!
TurnipFritters
Member
The promotional photo says it's just Devil Summoner. The first Devil Summoner. From 1995. Where a substantial number of demon artwork currently used in the franchise originates.
cj_iwakura
Member
That'd be nuts. DS1 has a book already.
Thanks, that was pretty helpful last night. And I guess I'll leave the extra bosses for later if they're fun.
I made it to the last boss and I'm figuring out a strategy for its final form. I'm kinda glad it's not a pushover like some of the other bosses in the final dungeon.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
No! I need money!
i've been freaking the eff out in the other thread and on twitter but it is insane that the tease for volume 4 came true eight years later
year of dreams~
also where is the contact info of this "Shinkigensha" producer so i can spam them with requests for reprints of volumes 1-3
year of dreams~
also where is the contact info of this "Shinkigensha" producer so i can spam them with requests for reprints of volumes 1-3
Finished Digital Devil Saga 1. That was a great experience, a tad short compared to your average SMT game, but very focused and with 0 bloat aside from the funky encounter rate.
I wish I could just start DDS2 right away but Apocalypse is right around the corner so that'll have to wait.
But yeah, loved it. Probably the most all around solid SMT game I've played.
The final boss was pretty cool too. It wasn't necessarily hard, but it's the perfect final boss for a game like this because it requires planning more than everything and demands that you make use of your freedom in party building. The final form took me by surprise the first time, but the next I won without much trouble because I took my time to come up with a good strategy with the skills I had gathered.
That was some cliffhanger tho lmao. The ending basically explains nothing... I expected it tho so no problem.
That was some cliffhanger tho lmao. The ending basically explains nothing... I expected it tho so no problem.
But yeah, loved it. Probably the most all around solid SMT game I've played.
cj_iwakura
Member
Start DDS2! It's not a very long game, and the opening is godlike.
Devola and Popola in Nier Automata looked really familiar for some reason, in a way that conflicted with both the style of the rest of the game and their appearances in the first one. I think it might be because they remind me so much of the DDS character models - does anyone else see more than a passing resemblance?
Devola and Popola in Nier Automata looked really familiar for some reason, in a way that conflicted with both the style of the rest of the game and their appearances in the first one. I think it might be because they remind me so much of the DDS character models - does anyone else see more than a passing resemblance?
I've been thinking they looked off and now I can't unsee the comparison.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
That feeling when you wander into the 3DS Theme Shop looking for SMT themes and see that the SMTIV:A theme is up and it's free. Was a nice little surprise. 😊
I finally reached the sixth day on Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker.
I did a joke to Airi in the segment
I will try follow Daichi route, I don't remember the name, but it will be where Tokyo turns for real the very center of the universe.
I did a joke to Airi in the segment
to try to convince her to come back to the group and she run away. Oh well. I still have Fumi, Hinako and Otome, but I really like Airi.
Shadow Broker
Banned
Will Shin Megami Tensei IV Apacolypse get its own OT?
Edit: Why isn't there a preload option for this?
I'm pretty excited for tonight's release.
Edit: Why isn't there a preload option for this?
I'm pretty excited for tonight's release.
Wish I could have done this but I had to spend the weekend out of town so all I had was my 3DS sadly. I'll definitely get back to it after Apocalypse tho. I loved everything in DDS1 and I'm eager to find out more about the characters.
Ace Harding
Member
SMT newbie here - is Devil Survivor a tactics game? I'm on a little tactics binge, playing through FFTA2, and would love a tactics game in the SMT world with the Pokedemon elements thrown in as well. Is that anything close to what DS is?
Other than IV and IV:A, is Devil Summoner the best SMT available to play on a 3DS?
Other than IV and IV:A, is Devil Summoner the best SMT available to play on a 3DS?
archnemesis
Member
Yes. The battlefield is very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics, but when you reach an enemy you have traditional SMT combat instead of just dealing combat damage directly. Overall, it is a fantastic game.
Devil Summoner is pretty good. If you enjoyed SMT4 then you will like it.
If you haven't played Persona 3 or 4 yet then you might want to give them a try on a different system (PS2/PSP/PSV/PC).
Barrylocke
Member
Eh, I loved Soul Hackers but I can think of reasons someone may like SMT4 but not Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers. Soul Hackers has a generally older aesthetic, and the demon fusion is less versatile than it is in SMT4. In some ways I actually think it's an advantage because of this, but many people would be put off by not being able to hand pick abilities for the next demon you fuse.
archnemesis
Member
In the end they're both straight-forward dungeon crawlers with demon fusing and a similar combat system. People who are into that tend to like most entries in the series (even though they might rank them differently).
Ace Harding
Member
Thanks. I ordered Devil Survivor Overclocked - $25 on Amazon. I've been wavering between finishing IV and just starting IV:A but am close to finishing FFTA2 and need to keep scratching my tactics itch while I reintroduce myself to the SMT universe.
The combo of tactics with SMT-style battles when you engage in combat sounds awesome. My only worry is the voice acting they did for Overclocked - I watched a video and it sounds pretty terrible.
The combo of tactics with SMT-style battles when you engage in combat sounds awesome. My only worry is the voice acting they did for Overclocked - I watched a video and it sounds pretty terrible.
Fucking finally beat
in DDS2!
Anyways, thanks cj_iwakura...
Edit: So after
Satan
God, I'm too forgetful to keep very good track of all these factors while playing the game...
Edit: So after
Beating the Archangels, Shiva, Vishnu, Seth, Satan, and getting the master ring the last boss is pretty much all that's left in the game?
I assume it's beyond the doors past Shiva and Vishnu.
I assume it's beyond the doors past Shiva and Vishnu.
I think
you still need to fight that think with all the mouths first
Yeah, thanks I just finished it.
I don't think I've ever been so overpowered at the end of an SMT game, normally I at least have a bit of a tough time with the final boss...
Imp the Dimp
Member
Playing the first Persona on PSP and it's way better than I was led to believe. Once I'm done with this I'll finish Innocent Sin (which I also own for PSP) and then I can proudly claim to have finished all 5 Persona games. Soon to be 6.
cj_iwakura
Member
It's an incredible spectacle. Music is on a whole other level.
Dragon1893
Member
The VA is alright imo except for fucking Midori. Christ almighty...
P1P is one criminally overlooked game, it's pretty good by its own and has connections with P2 that are great and a lot of people miss. Glad to see you're enjoying it.
MAGICAL DOLLY!
Also hated Yuzu's whiny voice to. I swear if I hear her say "The death clooocks" or "the Yahmonooootaaaay circle" one more time...
Dragon1893
Member
Soul Hackers is awesome. It's probably the hardest to get into but it's so worth it. It shows its age in some ways and has a slow start but it's really good.
One thing that has been on my mind while playing Strange Journey: when some people complain about SMTIV missing that feeling of isolation that is prevalent for example in Nocturne, sometimes SJ is also mentioned as an example and honestly it couldn't be farther from the truth.
You are constantly in contact with your crew members either because they're with you or over the radio and also run into them in dungeons. Besides, you always have a safe haven to run back to that serves as the hub connecting all the dungeons. The game is great of course, just pointing this out.
I'm a huge fan of P2 and think it's very underrated but P1 didn't do it for me. Maybe I need to give it another shot.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Yeah, I'm enjoying this a lot. Sadly, I don't remember too much of Persona 2: EP because I finished it 7 years ago. :/ I mean, it was good and memorable but it was freaking big too.
I'm about one third into P1 PSP now and it's pretty damn straight forward which is nice for a change.
Lunarwhale
Member
P1 gets a lot of shit for some of its clunkiness but it's a really great game if you can accept that and some of its funky balancing. Has some of my favorite dungeons in the series - genuinely made me wish Persona 2's dungeons were first person (and to be honest a lot of them sort of felt like they were originally designed to be). Still kind of hate the redone OST though - original was so good.
Devil Survivor 2, finished 1st run!
I get the L
Now I can start the Triangulum Arc, but I will do first
I get the L
iberator ending. Well, verbatim, Tokyo is now the center of the world. I don't know if this world will survive to another demon rampage or to natural disasters, sad but this is the cost of freedom.
Now I can start the Triangulum Arc, but I will do first
an Alcor run. I could not get the enough points to retrieve with me a demon, but my skill and auction list yes. I don't saw anything about the Compedium so I hope this thing still exists with my demons data.
Yo, heads up! Both Digital Devil Saga games are on sale on the US PSN store as PS2 classics for PS3 at $3.99 right now as part of a flash sale.
DDS1 has bad framerate and 2 likely does too (haven't played it yet) but if they're the only way you have to play them they play just fine and you forget after a bit.
This is great timing as I finished the first game last week haha.
DDS1 has bad framerate and 2 likely does too (haven't played it yet) but if they're the only way you have to play them they play just fine and you forget after a bit.
This is great timing as I finished the first game last week haha.
Barrylocke
Member
I was looking to see if I could find a larger pic of the Organic Energy Association representative that I have in my avatar (I think that may be the largest pic out there short of editing a screenshot of him) and I came across what seems to be his original Devil Summoner iteration.
He definitely seems to give more of an overtly sinister vibe here. I always felt that between his portrait and the voice acting on the 3DS, his Soul Hackers rendition was less overtly menacing but with the potential to be if he needed to.
He definitely seems to give more of an overtly sinister vibe here. I always felt that between his portrait and the voice acting on the 3DS, his Soul Hackers rendition was less overtly menacing but with the potential to be if he needed to.
cj_iwakura
Member
Playing the original Devil Summoner is like pulling teeth, but it has its charms, namely the style. My favorite is the weapon vendor. A realtor office where all the shelves switch around to reveal gun racks.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Persona 1's "Bloody Destiny" boss track is really, really good, damn.
About Devil Summoner... Is there any way to experience it without knowing japanase? Like some youtube playthrough with subtitles or a written let's play? I'd like to be more familiar with it before trying Soul Hackers again.
I know the soundtrack may be divisive, but damn once it clicks it can be so hype. I was always looking forward to bosses because of Bloody Destiny and most dungeon tracks were great.
I know the soundtrack may be divisive, but damn once it clicks it can be so hype. I was always looking forward to bosses because of Bloody Destiny and most dungeon tracks were great.
cj_iwakura
Member
I have the Saturn version, which is dirt cheap. Got it for $5.
Your best bet is the Legendra FAQ here:
http://www.legendra.com/rpg/fiche-a...vil_summoner-so-articles.html#getpart_148_738
It's French, but google translate covers the gist of it. Pretty sure the author posts here, too.
Your real problem will be negotiations. No way to tell if they joined until you check your roster, since they just disappear as if they left, either way.
There's a pending fan translation, but the translator is still working on the labyrinthine script.