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Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 |OT| Big Dipper and Bigger Boobs
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Now that you say it, their mannerisms have certain similarities. AO is a lot more innocent than both Kaworu and Joshua, though; specially late in the game.
I really like most of the characters in the game, with a few exceptions. Ronaldo and Yamato both suck, and i think Joe is a bit meh, but that's it. I thought Makoto would belong here too in the beginning, but she's kind of hilarious if you try to make her embarrassed (specifically thinking about the Otome/Makoto mission here)
Plenty of love for Joe's. He's so damn awesome, and his sidequests are a mixture of fun, touching, heart-warming and sad the same time.
Plus he totally references lonely island.
Girl, you know we've been together such a long, long time...
♪
So is it possible to get all playable characters on one playthrough?
Don't have any favorites yet, but Io is pretty endearing, as are Joe and Daichi. I hate that little asshole that joined me in Osaka (Keita?). He's decent in battle, but jesus christ what a dipshit.
Am half way through Day 3 so far.
Don't have any favorites yet, but Io is pretty endearing, as are Joe and Daichi. I hate that little asshole that joined me in Osaka (Keita?). He's decent in battle, but jesus christ what a dipshit.
Am half way through Day 3 so far.
Well sorta
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You need to get every characters fate level to at least 4 AND pick Daichi's route; easier said than done since dialogue responses influence fate levels. I doubt you'll do this on the first playthrough. In fact its not as fun either since you're restricted. Oh yeah and Ao is doomed to die.
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Koroviev
Member
I love Joe!
Wasn't so sure at first, but he grew on me. He reminds me of Vincent from Catherine.
The only character that annoys me is Airi. Don't really care about her. Ronaldo isn't bad per se, but I can't sympathize with his cause, because dat thug artwork.
AO is part of your party in his own route, though. He isn't exactly doomed to die. Then again, in his route Ronaldo and Yamato kill themselves after you beat them... basically, it goes like this:
-AO route: Yamato and Ronaldo die
-Daichi route: AO dies
-Ronaldo route: Yamato and AO die
-Yamato route: Ronaldo and AO die
-AO route: Yamato and Ronaldo die
-Daichi route: AO dies
-Ronaldo route: Yamato and AO die
-Yamato route: Ronaldo and AO die
Thanks for the heads up 7th and PK.. and the massive spoiler I got when I quoted your replies! No worries though.
Seems like saving everyone is a big hassle, I'll just keep on playing as usual and not worrying too much about it. I had my first cast member die on me last night and was thinking about going back to an earlier save and trying to help them, but I'll leave it as is.
Seems like saving everyone is a big hassle, I'll just keep on playing as usual and not worrying too much about it. I had my first cast member die on me last night and was thinking about going back to an earlier save and trying to help them, but I'll leave it as is.
Why are you asking about Persona here? It's not just OT, it's totally irrelevant.
Deified Data
Banned
Joe's my favorite core party member. Well-balanced battle-wise, with a weird, easy-going personality. One of my party mainstays.
SpeedySwaf
Member
So, question: I notice in the opening movie that it has Io flying up into the air before launching a massive lightening bolt. Is that a cutscene, or do the characters somehow get special abilities?
CornBurrito
Member
Cutscene that makes sense in context.
hypersheep
Member
Is anyone else extremely stingy like me and refuses to use add-ons when fusing demons for no good reason?
NaughtyCalibur
Member
Wednesday's boss has kicked my ass so hard twice already. I need to come up with a new strategy ASAP. And here I was thinking I had a beast of a team, but damn did this boss take me down a few pegs...
Koroviev
Member
Yeah, I know that feeling. I have a magic-focused MC, so I
enabled Ice Dance for my guy and mabufu for the other mage. I had to sacrifice some of my preferred demons for high-magic demons with mabufu/ice dance. Having a Genma (Hanuman, in this case) made it so that the mob of standard demons couldn't trap me in a corner when the boss moved around.
I found multi-striking for vast amounts of damage was the most mindless way to ensure full-group kills on a wide variety of enemy teams you come across (meaning all of them) so it was ideal for just letting the main character solo half of the map and get all the levels for fusing.
Having a complete glass cannon, with literally no investment in magic or vitality, to just punch every boss to death instantly really made so much stuff pretty trivial.
Also having two physical characters is fine. Resistance gets a little up there towards the end, but it's not as dumb as the first game and there's actually enough skills to reasonably equip two people and have them do things
Second run I am doing 3 vitality to 1 magic I'm sure this will be a thing.
Deified Data
Banned
Technically, a magic glass cannon would operate in much the same way. Just use elemental dances on an enemy until they die. I think of physical-based attacks as an element, like any other. Physical builds still have plenty of nuance - they may all seem sameish (being the same "element", and all), but unlike magic they all operate under different circumstances, and are governed by a variety of different stats. Who knows. Perhaps Phys feels so fresh for me because I made my MC in DS1 a magic nuke for every playthrough. DS2 is my first time making a physical MC, and I'm not bored of it yet.
Progress report: I'm in the middle of Wednesday.
Just saved Joe.
the introduction of the Anguished One and the doubts over JP's
My favorite character so far would probably be Fumi and Joe, for managing to keep their cool in their own unique ways despite the shit going down around them. Fumi has the sort of detatched attitude that you'd sort of have to have if you hoped to survive a crisis like that, and Joe's so delightfully weird you can't help but like him (Favorite Joe scene so far:
MC and Daichi spying on the female physical...and Joe pops out of nowhere, having been there the whole time
My least favorites...Keita didn't sound too cool, but he died so I won't know until my second playthrough. Death deadlines are really unforgiving in this game. Yamato's a dick, but the game sort of encourages you to dislike him. Hinako's sort of a pointless fan-service character. I'd say the only character I genuinely dislike despite the game encouraging you to like her would be Io, who's meek submissiveness and "healer chick" archetype sort of makes her my least favorite JRPG stereotype. I share Airi's frustration with Io - she apologizes too much. Really useful in battle, though.
Just started day 5. Day 4 (wednesday) had some nice grinding spots, that was hard to leave behind.
I like most of the cast well enough, but I think overall the female characters are more likable than the male cast members, well except for
. And I guess
is cool enough, better than Yamato at least.
I like most of the cast well enough, but I think overall the female characters are more likable than the male cast members, well except for
mr. (?) mysterious.
Ronaldo
cj_iwakura
Member
Day 5 is poetry.
Also, Torraz:
"I've been waiting for this."
"You and me both, brother."
"You and me both, brother."
Also, Torraz:
Mysterious guy becomes a lot more interesting once you know who he is.
Koroviev
Member
Yeah, I learned my lesson. If I see a death clip, then I head into action immediately. Oh well, I suppose losing people provides a good incentive for playing again >
So far my MO has been to clear any story battle before doing any other events.
story events > events that are "necessary" (finding certain "items" in scenes etc) > normal 30 minute passing scenes.
I read that one needs
with
to receive an ending? Not sure I'm going to reach that as all my people are at 1-3 although I noticed that there was a lot more socializing time starting day 4 and proceeding long into the evening...
story events > events that are "necessary" (finding certain "items" in scenes etc) > normal 30 minute passing scenes.
I read that one needs
level 4
ALL characters
mjemirzian
Banned
Phys MCs start to lose their edge near the end of the game with so much Phys Reflect flying around. You get Holy Dance a lot sooner than that skill that turns your phys attacks into almighty damage.
Deified Data
Banned
I guess I'll deal with that when I come to it. Worst case scenario, my more than capable party and cadre of demons will pick up MC's slack until he cracks Pierce.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
Middle of Day 7 now. The battle really ramp up here. I didn't have to time to go in slow. I really had to focus my attention on completing the mission objectives asap.
To be fair,
Polaris has no defense against Phys!
I still find it easier to just Holy Dance everything, though. Holy Dance plus a Dragon with Evil Wave turns you into the ultimate nuke.
Hardly; 2 bosses tops with Phys Repel and very few enemy parties. The hardest optional bosses even have Anti-Almighty, so there's that too.
Don't worry, that's only required for one particular ending. All other endings don't require anything special like that.
Koroviev
Member
I delayed at first because I thought the story extras would disappear Q_Q
Edit: Anyone else been winging it with 3 leaders? It seems like I'm always short on demons...oh well, I think it has improved my strategy x_x
hypersheep
Member
Day 4, and I don't have enough macca to fuse all these demons
Koroviev
Member
Day 4, and I don't have enough macca to fuse all these demons
I finally have 8 demons again, but a new tyrant and a vile are available...
Made it to Day 5. Lots of new fusion possibilites open, so it's macca-spending time!
Plus some of my stuff needs upgrading bad.
Day 4 Boss was a pain in the ass.
Indeed. Plus he's got funny dialog, so that's why I like him the best so far. It's also why he's at Fate Lv4 right now.
Plus some of my stuff needs upgrading bad.
Day 4 Boss was a pain in the ass.
Could've killed him on my first try, but I didn't realize I needed flight to get all the damn generators, so I ended up failing eventually. Also, that damn boss moving around...UGH!
On the 2nd try, I had a better idea of what to do, so it went a little smoother since I broke the generators and just tried to wear the boss down. Kinda bullshit how it often gets multiple moves to move, attack, and heal. Was VERY annoying.
On the 2nd try, I had a better idea of what to do, so it went a little smoother since I broke the generators and just tried to wear the boss down. Kinda bullshit how it often gets multiple moves to move, attack, and heal. Was VERY annoying.
Indeed. Plus he's got funny dialog, so that's why I like him the best so far. It's also why he's at Fate Lv4 right now.
Deified Data
Banned
Took out Wednesday's boss last night - experienced my first gameover! What a pretty gameover screen. Succeeded on my second try by
leaving people behind at the points Megrez travels to throughout the battle. Fumi with Ice Dance did most of the heavy lifting. I just booked it straight to the boss, not worrying about his minions. I left one party member behind with Petra Eyes to disable them and draw their fire. I equipped everyone else with Wilders or Avians for their mobility, and then switched out those demons for Ice Dance-equipped Baphomets when I was in attack range. All in all, it was a curb-stomp battle. I would have killed Megrez a couple times if he didn't hold on to that last bit of health prior to shifting his position.
Earthstrike
Member
Pretty close to the end of the game. I've been fusing some sick demons. One thing I like about this game though is that you can't get too attached to any demons you currently have. You have to constantly keep upfusing and getting those stat bonuses on new demons.
Anyways
Anyways
just beat benetnasch on my first try because of how insanely overpowered the evil flow race ability is. I put two of these guys on different teams and just went balls to the wall high MA demons to rip apart the enemies. Inti with 34 MA, Silky with 31. Each with powerful dances. Also made sure my pythons had high MA too. Now I just became able to fuse titania and I got her to 38 MA after fusion with Holy dance by using the holy set add on and null phys and resistance to curse. ( So she's immune to everything save almighty and stat afflictions). Alright, on to fight and kill polaris if that's what happens next!
I'm trying to avoid spoilers since its my first run but is this game like DS1 late game, where phys damage gets heavy countered? Cause I'd always make my hero a mage and just have one member be the phys battery. Also who is the best phys damage dealer and what exactly is Joe? A heavy caster or a jack of trades?
Koroviev
Member
Noooo.. get Phys Repel on Titania. So much more useful, really!
Nope, demons with Phys Repel are very rare in this game. The strongest physical attacker is Hinako with AG-based attacks such as Multi-Hit and Multi-Strike or a ST/VI-focused char with Berserk/Deathbound.
Is a mage hero still really strong? I havent read up on anything regarding tweaking or min maxing just cause I wanna take it easy first playthrough since, if this game is like 1, there will be plenty of stuff I'll miss and can go back for on a new game. But I kinda wanna make sure my hero is relatively well statted.
Both physical and magical based builds are very viable, yup.
Generally in one I'd go heavy on magic followed by agi and vit after and id have a certain amount of str so I could use things like the dances. Are there any stat thresholds I should try to get to on a heavy caster?
Whoa, I've been taking Jungo as my physical attacker but it seems I should switch to hinako then...
Blitzkrieg is 8 STR i think.
Earthstrike
Member
Haha, didn't have the demons to do it and still get that insanely high MA stat I wanted.