Perhaps. But people who have played and beaten the Japanese game should also try to be a little more considerate for the majority of people who have not had the opportunity to play the game yet.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Perhaps. But people who have played and beaten the Japanese game should also try to be a little more considerate for the majority of people who have not had the opportunity to play the game yet.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Anyone mind explaining how this game plays? And why i, as a Pokemon player, would like it? I see it as an everyday RPG..
Saibastian
Neo Member
I totally agree with you, but I just meant it so that it might lessen spoilers being in this thread.
SMT is so not an "everyday rpg". Not many games have the same type of setting, story themes, lore, etc.
Mr.Monitor
Member
Not quite. There's a lot of stuff that differentiates the SMT series from other JRPGs on the market. I'd personally say the biggest things are the press turn system (SMT's gameplay system that can sometimes make battles feel like combat puzzles), demon summoning and negotiation, and demon fusion. Imagine a Pokemon game where you negotiate with Pokemon to catch them, you fight alongside three of them, and you can fuse them to get stronger Pokemon later on. Combine that with sci-fi/cyberpunk/occult themes and a dark atmosphere and you should have an idea of what you're in for.
Mr.Monitor
Member
I agree. It's a great title to even out the relatively dry area before the fall blowout. I'm still excited for Dragon's Crown and Killer is Dead next month, though.
Keep in mind that the press turn part wasn't introduced until Nocturne!
.I am ex-TREMELY picky about subtitles. And I couldn't ever decide on one I'd be ok with. I know I suck
May get a mod to change it later on if I decide on one.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Ah, I see. I thought it was standard/limited (not "all the launch copies come with it") Cool!
Mr.Monitor
Member
Keep in mind that the press turn part wasn't introduced until Nocturne!
Yup yup. Sorry I failed to mention that.
cj_iwakura
Member
I was hit by one spoiler, but I guess it wasn't too bad in the grand scheme of things, my own fault for giving into 'click here if you want to see this'.
Deified Data
Banned
It has few elements in common with Pokemon. There's really no "monster training" element to the gameplay. You recruit new demons and then fuse them as soon as they're obsolete, leaving little room to grow attached. SMT is a dungeon crawler first and foremost. Everything else sort of takes backseat.
http://www.destructoid.com/contest-win-a-signed-smt-iv-poster-and-3ds-skin--257783.phtml
Has this been posted? Well I have no chance in hell to win, so I figured I spread the word. The prizes aren't all that, but hey free stuff.
Has this been posted? Well I have no chance in hell to win, so I figured I spread the word. The prizes aren't all that, but hey free stuff.
witchedwiz
Member
Hey atlus, europe here so that you know!
Deified Data
Banned
Think I might roll with Law on my first playthrough since everyone else is doing neutral/chaos. Gotta be a special snowflake.
Mr.Monitor
Member
You're not alone. I just like lawful demons more, man.
cj_iwakura
Member
Usually affects demon summoning, but I don't think MAG exists in IV though(just like it didn't in III), so it probably doesn't affect it.
So the most important question, will SMT IV have any...
Ace Harding
Member
What happens to the "limited" "pre-order only" editions after the game is released? Do they just keep selling them until stock runs out?
I preordered one months ago, but I'm thinking about buying a digital copy and hanging on to the limited edition.
I preordered one months ago, but I'm thinking about buying a digital copy and hanging on to the limited edition.
Mr.Monitor
Member
It's all of the first print, so yeah. You don't even gotta preorder.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Actually it's really fucking useful.
Macca prices get ridiculous, and if you're in a place you didn't save recently at/bump into a boss you weren't expecting (happens a lot), being able to use coins is a quick and effective way to get back in the game.
mugurumakensei
Member
Awesome. I'll be getting SMT IV and $30 bucks next Tuesday. That's a perfect day. Preordered it not long after the release day was announced (Paid in Full with Gamestop credit).
GeekyDad
Member
Been watching a little more relatively early gameplay (I lack all self control), and I have to say, most of the sprites look better than expected. There are definitely some weather-worn demons in toe, but most of them seem to have been touched up quite nicely, and some of the new ones are really cool-looking.
What made you think it looks like a typical RPG? Among RPGs this series is unique.
Standard price.
The game's MSRP is $50.
For the one that keeps asking about why Pokemon comparison, a lot of the gameplay boils down to attacking an enemy's weakness, while getting new demons with stronger abilities and with their own strengths/weaknesses, and keeping on top of what you have vs what you're facing is important if you want to actually survive the game.
It's 50. All launch copies of the game are limited editions. After that shipment there will only be standard editions. Whether or not they will also be $50 remains to be seen.
podracer35
Member
Don't worry about it, at least for me. Getting spoiled is regrettable, but thankfully I have almost forgotten the name of the person you referenced in the spoiler.
i just remember it being someone on the good side? Hmmmm....
I also second the request for a separate spoiler topic for discussion and the like. Topics with walls of black bars are dangerous... I've seen misquoted posts and so many unmarked spoilers in the VLR OT, it'd be nice to make sure those don't happen here. :/
Jesus Chri-
Oh ok, well I hope that versions that only have the game aren't so expensive.
cj_iwakura
Member
If it's any consolation, the game's easily worth $50.
I choose to look at it like this: We're paying $10 more for a better than usual Atlus first print bonus, and by the time those are gone, the MSRP will probably go down anyway. Well, probably. I pre-ordered it on Newegg for $10 cheaper when I had the chance months ago via promotion.
Now hopefully it's less "lol dungeon grind" and more story/character oriented than Nocturne so I can finally say I played through a SMT game.
SMT IV |OT| LET'S DANCIN'!Usually affects demon summoning, but I don't think MAG exists in IV though(just like it didn't in III), so it probably doesn't affect it.
So the most important question, will SMT IV have any...
I don't have 50 bucks to spend right now. I'll just let my friend who's a big fan of the series buy it and then see what he says about it.
cj_iwakura
Member
Darth_Caedus
No longer canonical
Getting so hyped for this! I've kinda lost the video game mood for a few months and I hope this pulls me back in. Plus it looks like Atlus put a lot of work into this game. I see lots of references and it being a SMT game. I was afraid the overpopularity of Persona would've went to their head, I'm glad its not!
Darth_Caedus
No longer canonical
How about one about the gauntlet comp? It hasn't been around since SMT2, right? I'm not creative to think of one but there is probably some cool titles people can think of.
Bah, too bad for me.
Darth_Caedus
No longer canonical
I have a pretty big collection of RPGs but I doubt it's one of the biggest :/
I'm tempted to actually put some work into this. Do I want to dig out all of my old Lunar CEs or not, hrm...
cj_iwakura
Member
I can totally dig out my Tokimeki Memorial and Growlanser Generations CEs. I don't know, this could bring out some brutal competition.
To quote Ground Zero Texas,