sixteen-bit
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High hopes for M2 STG. Bakraid and Batrider next?
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Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread
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Batrider would be sick. I really want Ibara Kuro: Black Label, that game is life.
I bet this will be the next game, after DDP Resurrection release.
Unfortunately the truth is that I doubt they'll port it anytime soon if at all, which sucks. I've tried to stay optimistic about it but it just doesn't seem like a game they find to be a priority which sucks because from what I've played of it on MAME (which has it's problems) the game is too perfectly executed it's silly
Supaidaman
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Battle Garegga for PS4 confirmed.
Late to the party here but are those released only on Japan PSN? Any chance of them coming to the US? If no, I might just get them on the japanese one.
Tizoc
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It may not lead to anything but I tweeted Ghostlight and recommended they try to get the M2 STG line on Steam
https://twitter.com/ghostlightgames/status/773191815965110273
I'd double dip myself :3
https://twitter.com/ghostlightgames/status/773191815965110273
I'd double dip myself :3
shaowebb
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Yeah, I feel like I'm in some odd sorta dark future since I got my muchipork/pink sweets copy for $36 on amazon back in the day. Now its like 3 digits for the title.
Stilll I want the Deathsmiles 2x goodness and Espgaluda goodness to comeover first. Wouldn't mind Akai Katana though. Its probably got the most mileage from me followed by Deathsmiles 2x. Such a great couple of games.
I wish Pink Sweets wasn't so obtuse in its systems. Game is ridiculous once you read into it. Maybe english would help?
SOME-MIST
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that's a megaton and I can't believe I haven't seen that till now. day 1 purchase from me even though I own the PCB and saturn version. I'm hoping they also include the arrange soundtrack which is so so so tight. degeneracy and marginal consciousness are two of my favorite gaming tracks of all time
degeneracy
marginal consciousness
it even has an item counter (making "options" formations way easier) and a rank graph ffs
I'm FREAKING OUT ahhhhhh
degeneracy
marginal consciousness
it even has an item counter (making "options" formations way easier) and a rank graph ffs
I'm FREAKING OUT ahhhhhh
ThePeoplesBureau
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I felt like I paid too much for a used copy in great condition less than 12 months ago (but no regrets), however since then it has gone even higher... I've no idea what's causing the continual price surge.
SOME-MIST
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probably muchi muchi pork since the game is absolutely fantastic and such a wonderful YGW shooter. pink sweets is great, but it's literally impossible unless you know how to abuse the infinite lives glitch or you stick to arrange mode.
Don't think they'll be making or porting any more games
SmiteOfHand
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They talked about them on the 8-4 Play podcast a while back (no idea which episode, apologies), or maybe it was when some of them were on a Giant Bomb podcast? Either way, it was those dudes talking about it.
If memory holds they exist only in name at this point. Maybe a small team still for port work? I can't recall if the Ikaruga steam port was in house or contracted.
IIRC they've got an office address and a couple of people that handle licensing & royalty revenue but they don't have any active development staff anymore. The failure of Gaist Crusher basically exhausted any capital they had left.
drangleic tourism
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One of the saddest stories in gaming right there.
Yep.
I have to imagine that porting Radiant Silvergun HD would be incredibly cheap and yet we haven't seen it, which speaks volumes
The fact that Treasure is basically no more is quite sad. They are easily in my top 3 of retro developers. Every time I played one of their games for the first time it was always a blast and they always made me remember why I love games. They were also always pioneers in the industry, showing us gamers for many console generations that their games were unmatched in terms of visuals and gameplay.
At least they basically went out with a bang with Sin & Punishment: Star Successor on the Wii.
At least they basically went out with a bang with Sin & Punishment: Star Successor on the Wii.
sixteen-bit
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Does it qualify as going out with a bang when their most recent software released half a decade after Star Successor?
SmiteOfHand
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Found the Bombcast with the Treasure talk..
http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/giant-bombcast-03152016/1600-1536/
Their audio player is a little fiddly but if you skip to 2:22:01 and let it play for a bit you'll get to the discussion.
http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/giant-bombcast-03152016/1600-1536/
Their audio player is a little fiddly but if you skip to 2:22:01 and let it play for a bit you'll get to the discussion.
Remembrance
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Both Sin & Punishment games never getting ports is honestly the most tragic part of this.
They're actually both available on the Wii U Virtual Console.
I own physical copies of both but it's still nice to have.
Yeah it may be a bit of a stretch but I don't really count Gaist Crusher as part of their main library.
darius burst
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Dariusburst is probably it. Most games in this genre aren't designed with huge horizontal screen real estate in mind because it's pretty much impossible to track everything going on over such a huge area. Also, unless you have a mount capable of going to portrait mode, you're in for a really bad time if you try a vertical STG on it.
Perfect. Will look into it.
Ha, no. I won't be trying that. I know 21:9 is not an ideal aspect ratio for SHMUPs. That's OK. But Darius Burst could be pretty fun on it.
gunstarhero
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Was wondering the same... the promo text refers to it as the "legendary shoot 'em up" celebrating it's 10th anniversary.
Never heard of it - was this some obscure arcade or something?
Remembrance
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Not really legendary, no. Sky Force was basically a mobile game that looked better than most, which the developers were persistent enough to keep updating.
Sky Force is the kind of game where you have to fully power up your plane before you can really play the game (that is, on the hardest difficulty). There are upgrades that you have to buy (by grinding for a lot of money), and upgrades that you can only get randomly with a low drop rate.
By the time you're experiencing the game as it was meant to be played, you feel like you've played your fill already.
That's why I said ports! I haven't bought a Nintendo console for over a decade... because all I actually want to play on them are a few shmups and rail shooters.
Sky Force is the kind of game where you have to fully power up your plane before you can really play the game (that is, on the hardest difficulty). There are upgrades that you have to buy (by grinding for a lot of money), and upgrades that you can only get randomly with a low drop rate.
By the time you're experiencing the game as it was meant to be played, you feel like you've played your fill already.
They're actually both available on the Wii U Virtual Console.
I own physical copies of both but it's still nice to have.
That's why I said ports! I haven't bought a Nintendo console for over a decade... because all I actually want to play on them are a few shmups and rail shooters.
Steam shoootemup Stardust Galaxy Warriors comes out this week on Xbox One and PS4!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJeid2POvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJeid2POvc
You've got:
Crimzon Clover
Danmaku Unlimited 2
Ikaruga
Steredenn
DARIUSBURST
RAIDEN IV (you have Raiden III and Legacy, but they are ported by dotemu)
Vulkaiser
Mushihimesama
Deathsmiles
Eschatos
Strania
Shooting Love 20XX
DeltaZEAL
XIIZEAL
RefRain
Mecha Ritz
Valkyrius Prime
Tale of Alltynex
Sora
QP Shooting
Sky Force Anniversary
Syder Arcade
STEAM also ha Danmaku Unlimited 3, DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu, Blue Revolver coming its way soon along with a slew of other shoot'em ups like Caladrius Blaze.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1120418
This has a comprehensive list of what's coming. Some don't look hot and some look mediocre, but there are some good ones on there. It's not low bandwidth friendly though. So be warned.
ThePeoplesBureau
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Great Battle Garegga news - cross-cross-posting via SmiteOfHand in the dedicated thread, and subsequently the shmups forum:
Physical PS4 version before the year is out? I'll take it!
Physical PS4 version before the year is out? I'll take it!
sixteen-bit
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All in on physical. I hope the disc release comes out in NA as well.
Raiden IV probably. Ikaruga is fantastic but unconventional, Skill Test is mostly a fun multiplayer party game.
Really though, just pick a game you like, stop using continues, and watch yourself progress.
I always heard that Raiden IV was the hardest one to start but without an argument, whyyou think that is easier?
SmiteOfHand
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What Tain said. I'd also add that what you hope to get out of shmups is important. The whole personal growth, competing with yourself thing, is what is most valuable, imo. If you look at world record scores and the likes it is easy to become discouraged or distracted because it takes a lot of work to get to that level. Instead focus on yourself. Keep track of your personal bests. Make note of when you improve, even small improvements. Especially small improvements!
A common criticism of shmups is that they are static and memorization heavy. It is important to keep in mind the game isn't the one doing the changing.
Raiden IV: For what is on your list I think it has the best blend of all things shmups. It has a bit of that old school feel without being too dry or chained by tradition. It incorporates a lot of lessons in design that were figured out over the years. It has the intensity that a bullethell can deliver without going full bullethell. Keeps it reigned in. It is a good, covers all bases, shoot 'em up.
I don't think it's an easy game, not at all. I just think that it's a relatively conventional one (in a good way, like sibarraz said) that'll get you more adjusted to the genre.
Oh sweet jeebus. I hope it's not a limited release with a preorder that sells out within seconds. I'll be fucking livid if I miss this one!
drangleic tourism
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Oh wow. I should check the shmups boards more often. I'd wait up super late/get up really early to have my finger on the mouse button for a preorder.
What a time to be alive.