We already do that. Every other shooting is blamed on GOP rhetoric, lack of proper gun laws and restrictions, and Trump's lack of talking on the matter. I don't know why anyone is shocked they are doing the same.
Shooting at GOP baseball practice, multiple injured incl/ Maj. Whip Scalise
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We already do that. Every other shooting is blamed on GOP rhetoric, lack of proper gun laws and restrictions, and Trump's lack of talking on the matter. I don't know why anyone is shocked they are doing the same.
Duane Cunningham
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Wild to see those comments popping in like that.
BrutishMrFish
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Oh yeah, the party that has been saying the left wants to take away all guns, kill babies, and destroy Christianity has such a moral high ground here. Heaven forbid people point out facts like how Trump is a compulsive liar and that the majority of his support is rooted in bigotry.
Fenderputty
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Of course republicans will try and blame dems for this. Did anyone expect a moment of self reflection here? Like they were gonna pull the AHCA and stop funneling money to the rich?
Conservative media is going to treat this like 9/11 part 2, they're going to bring it up every opportunity they can for the next few years.
Lack of proper gun laws directly relate to shootings.
LOL what are you trying to say?
guggnichso
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All of which I wholeheartedly agree with. I actually UNDERSTAND how this could happen, to some point I actually understand the shooter. Hell, when I was younger I was gleefully happy about the suicide of the german FDP politician Möllemann after the backlash caused by his antisemitic pamphlet.
And all of this, the glee, the low key support, the understanding of this shooter is in my book understandable (disgusting, but understandable).
What I objected to was the marginalization of the NAZI death machine. YOU U.S. citizens still have options. You can soon vote in the midterms. You can still unite and protest and build a counter culture. You can still succeed and make this catastrophe of a presidency nothing more than a weird bump in history.
Those are not options the jews, the LGBT community, the sinti, the roma, people of color, political opponents and even supporters of the regime with a loud mouth had.
But YOU have those options, still. Even if you feel powerless now, you are far from it.
All is not lost. Trumps executive orders are blocked by courts. Trumps health care Desaster is on infinite hiatus. Trumps tax policy does not even exist yet. Those are small, but important victories for sane people. Build on that.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Democrats better not tone down a goddamn thing.
Shake Appeal
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Can we stop calling Bernie supporters the "far left"? Bernie is just a common-or-garden European social democrat.
In what world are Bernie Sanders' and the GOP's values "similar".
The fact that you consider the former far left in any way is already ridiculous enough as it is and speaks volumes about the political context of the USA.
When I'm 66 years old I'll tell you that maintaining two facebook pages isn't gonna be high on my daily to-do list.
EDIT: Yes, it could be true. I don't know.
That's great, he's not a European politician
" I condemn this attack, bigly and believe me I condemn attacks the best. And by the way we need to stop this russian investigation. Comey was a nut job. Just look at this attack! all because they didnt use their money on things that matter. I will build a wall and i will keep us safe. Putin btw is not a bad guy and by the way my hands are normal sized" President Trump
Inyourprime
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Looks like it.
Chained Prometheus
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I'm fully aware of that.
My points are more in regards to the media and public focus. Expect the GOP, FOX News and all of the other right wing media to drag this idiot's actions out for as long as humanly possible. They're going to try and use him as a means of deflecting attention away from the investigations and the ACHA, which is not a good thing.
More oppo news, if we get any in the near future, would hopefully be a good way to steer focus back on Trump and his gang of goblins.
GoldenEye 007
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For the US, he would be far-left. European definitions mean little in US politics.
Anyway, since GOP officials have officially blamed democrats, yeah, it's more than fair game to call out their shit policies, destruction, hate, and other things that drive people to do shit like this.
Subv3rsi0n
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No mention of his huge electoral victory? Fake news!
Quoted for a new page because THIS IS AN INSANE STATEMENT
wait, you're not even American and you're saying my comparison is misguided? Oh you sweet soul.
RPGCrazied
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Trump bring up the shooter was a bernie supporter? Probably.
There's a lot of really disgusting posts in this thread.
I don't see that happening. Considering no one died from this (unless it has updated since I last looked), the media is going to lose interest when the next leak drops. Mueller and Co aren't going to stop their investigation because of this.
Republicans will try to spin this on the media/Dems, but really it doesn't matter since sides are already drawn and people feel strongly enough that they aren't going to change their mind no matter which side they're on. So it's not like Trump voters are going to hate the media/Dems any more than they've already been brainwashed to do.
No shit? I'm saying it's weird to me that people are wondering why they'd blame Democrats. It's all we do with every other shooting ( and rightly so) but you knew it had to be coming as long as the shooter's affiliation wasn't Republican. They'll revel in this.
Alcotholic
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Quotes like "rot in hell you Sanders supporter" is concerning. This whole situation is concerning since it will further divide our country.
Don't be disgusting.
MagnaderAlpha
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If it was, I wouldn't be surprised. People get REALLY desperate when it comes to health care. I remember years back a guy stopped on the side of the freeway, unrolled a banner for the news (helicopter footage) to see that said "HMOs are only in it for the money", then while the camera was rolling, pulled out a gun and shot his head off. Lots of traumatized viewers and the news kept on apologizing for not pulling away, even though the anchors were telling the camera man to do so (knowing the man was about to do that).
Air Zombie Meat
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Because they're not Donald Trump.
I guess hoping this would at least bring about some introspection for the GOP was asking too much.
YUP.
Felix Lighter
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This only leads to bad things. This releases so much pressure on the right in the short term. It hurts the left in the eyes of moderates. You may know where the anger comes from, you may have zero sympathy for the GOP members involved, you may see the hypocrisy of the right in these situations but that doesn't change the political realities here. Authoritarians feed on this kind of violence.
elrechazado
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Multiple politicians and pundits blamed Sarah Palin for Gabby gifford shooting because of the "eliminationist rhetoric" of her having target signs over districts where her pac was targeting opponents in elections. Given that the shooter in that case had zero political motivation, the hypocrisy and opportunism about how that was the gop's fault certainly colors the reaction now. Me, i think both are political cheap point scoring opportunism and find it to be really gross.
He will obviously tweet about it later. " its important to bring this "country" together. Just like i "did" with all my electoral votes. By the way i won more than anyone ever, with a few "exceptions", probably"
Lord Frieza
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Both Sides are the same
Your comparison doesn't match. One is using logic, one isn't. People aren't wondering why. We know why. The GOP doesn't give a shit about America.
Anything to protect the narrative.
Shouldn't be.
You have a whole party that is trying to pass a law that will commit genocide on sick people by proxy so they can save on taxes.
Yep. Can't say I give a fuck about the GOP bc I don't.
YuriLowell
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It wont.
Alcotholic
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Also this. This is very important and I think we should continue reminding others.
If this was a thread about an assassination attempt on a politician from a non western country, and somebody said "they brought this on themselves", would that be bannable? Would people even bother doing a double take?
If this was a thread about Egypt, Brazil, Venezuela, Iran, etc. Would yall be so quick to denounce citizens who don't care for politicians fucking them over?