RadioHeadAche
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There are in Silent Hill 1. They ditched that ending grade system starting with Silent Hill 2.
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There are in Silent Hill 1. They ditched that ending grade system starting with Silent Hill 2.
Typographenia
Member
Wow, reading comprehension failure on my part. I thought for sure it said SH2.
I'm just gonna go stand over here now.
I'm just gonna go stand over here now.
RadioHeadAche
Member
You can still see which endings in the other games are "good" or "bad". It's pretty vague in Silent Hill 2, though which is great. There's only one "good" ending depending on how you look at it. I also find it interesting that the one ending in Silent Hill 4, which could be defined as the "worst" ending based on the events that occur, is actually the most fascinating.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I wish the PC versions were cheaper and more available. I'd kill for Steam versions of 2&3.
Melchiah
Member
What was the "worst" ending of SH4? It's been ages since I played it through, and I can't even remember the ending I got.
Clairvoyance
Member
The "21 Sacraments" is the worst ending.
disappeared
Banned
Speaking of Ending names in SH2,I vividly recall the very first time I got the "Leave" ending. But it wasn't called Leave at the stat screen. It was called "Walk Away." But every single other time after that when I got that ending, it was called Leave. Strangest thing.
kunonabi
Member
I had a similar thing happen to me with RE. I rented the original RE and I could have sworn that it had Chris smoking in the intro. It wasn't until later that I was told it had been cut from the American version. Every version since has been smoke free but my memory of it looked exactly the same as the real version.
The OG release in the big box has him smoking on disc. AFAIK they cut it for Director's Cut.
kunonabi
Member
Really? Nice to know I'm not crazy then.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
In other news, my shitty laptop can run SH3 perfectly. Thanks Tomm to save me $10 by forcing me to buy the PC version instead!
CaptainSchwann
Member
Hey so, I couldn't remember if I already asked this question or not, but thought I'd post anyways to make sure:
I beat SH3 a while back and it told me I unlocked the "show health" extra option. When I go to the extra option menu though, it's not there. Am I just being really dumb, or is this some bug?
I beat SH3 a while back and it told me I unlocked the "show health" extra option. When I go to the extra option menu though, it's not there. Am I just being really dumb, or is this some bug?
Typographenia
Member
Patch coming tomorrow and includes-
Confirmed by Tomm on SHH.
edit: He specifies the PS3 version, so perhaps there is something up on the 360 version? Does Microsoft have some kind of approval process for patches?
edit 2:
Oh, it's not showing up in the menu? I'm pretty sure it should be in the extras menu, but maybe it is only accessible from the top menu or something? Sorry about that.
Confirmed by Tomm on SHH.
edit: He specifies the PS3 version, so perhaps there is something up on the 360 version? Does Microsoft have some kind of approval process for patches?
edit 2:
It's been a while since I even looked at the show health stuff, but I believe it is just a flashing first aid sign in the corner when you've taken damage. Depending on the time between flashes is how bad you're hurting.
Oh, it's not showing up in the menu? I'm pretty sure it should be in the extras menu, but maybe it is only accessible from the top menu or something? Sorry about that.
Cool. I managed to get through SH2 but SH3 framerate was just atrocious.
This is only the second patch right? Or should I say the first patch as the original one didn't do shit.
Mr. Enigma
Member
That would fall under the fog density issues. The fog masks the psychedelic effect.
Anyone got a link to Hulett's post?
Typographenia
Member
I think this technically should count as the first patch. At least, in my mind. : P
Revolutionary
Member
I eagerly await the update impressions. Any news on the Downpour patch?
Somnium986
Member
Can't wait to see if this patch actually works! Really hope it makes SH3 somewhat playable. Couldn't stand to play it after clearing Hilltop Center. Literally slowed to a crawl.
Edit: Downloading right now(That was quick). Only 348MB hmm.
Edit: Downloading right now(That was quick). Only 348MB hmm.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Please report if it makes the games brighter.
Somnium986
Member
Don't believe so. Tried SH2 looks like the same brightness. I'm in SH3 right know and it looks the same from what I can remember. Sorry. :[
SH2 still stutters while outside, if it's worse than it was before I can't tell. been months since I played it last. Probably better indoors. Would have to play more than the beginning portion, and I don't have a save file anywhere else.
Loaded up my last SH3 save and the slowdown outside of Hilltop Center is GONE! Now let's see if it stays that way. >:[
Mr. Enigma
Member
What's the version number of the patch?
Somnium986
Member
V1.02. Another thing that bugs me about the collection. When you go to save in SH3, the screen flashes white instead of red. At least the voices seem to be synched up. It was laughably bad before.
Mr. Enigma
Member
A lot of people saying the download was 57MB. Where did you get 348MB from?
Somnium986
Member
Wow, really? I swear that's what I saw on my screen. Took at least 15mins to download. Weird.
Uh, was the fog always blue in the Silent Hill portion of SH3?
Uh, was the fog always blue in the Silent Hill portion of SH3?
beyond_death
Member
Oh so theres a patch now? I've finished playing through SH2 and I'm on SH3 now but the slow downs whenever there are monsters around are pretty bad.
Solid warrior
Banned
Can someone post detailed-impressions of the game after the update, Please? I'd get the game again if everything goes as expected.
Melchiah
Member
I just noticed it had been installed automatically. Might finally start playing these, after buying them already in May. =)
RadioHeadAche
Member
Here's what I've noticed so far in Silent Hill 3:
-The shadowing is horrible. I don't know if it was like this before, but I'm noticing it everywhere. Shadows are usually very jaggy and pixelated. Sometimes part of the shadow is missing such as the gun in the clothing store, or the shadow under Douglas' foot.
-The voice-synching is much better now. I've only reached the point where they drive to Silent Hill, but so far all dialogue seems to match their mouth movements.
-There seems to be more fog in the amusement park, but I haven't seen the streets of Silent Hill yet.
-There seem to be some audio glitches and missing sounds, though. For example, the UFO ending does not have music while Heather explains what happened. I also noticed the ambient noise in the amusement park cutting out after a while and did not return. During the rooftop cutscene, the Missionary did not make any noise until it approaches Heather just as it transitions into gameplay.
-The running animation slowdown seems to have been fixed, and the framerate appears to be more stable now. However, I have noticed some stuttering and the screen froze for about two seconds after getting hit by an enemy on the subway train.
-The "noise effect" is more noticeable now, but isn't nearly as apparent as the PS2 version.
-The shadowing is horrible. I don't know if it was like this before, but I'm noticing it everywhere. Shadows are usually very jaggy and pixelated. Sometimes part of the shadow is missing such as the gun in the clothing store, or the shadow under Douglas' foot.
-The voice-synching is much better now. I've only reached the point where they drive to Silent Hill, but so far all dialogue seems to match their mouth movements.
-There seems to be more fog in the amusement park, but I haven't seen the streets of Silent Hill yet.
-There seem to be some audio glitches and missing sounds, though. For example, the UFO ending does not have music while Heather explains what happened. I also noticed the ambient noise in the amusement park cutting out after a while and did not return. During the rooftop cutscene, the Missionary did not make any noise until it approaches Heather just as it transitions into gameplay.
-The running animation slowdown seems to have been fixed, and the framerate appears to be more stable now. However, I have noticed some stuttering and the screen froze for about two seconds after getting hit by an enemy on the subway train.
-The "noise effect" is more noticeable now, but isn't nearly as apparent as the PS2 version.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Wow, really? I swear that's what I saw on my screen. Took at least 15mins to download. Weird.
Uh, was the fog always blue in the Silent Hill portion of SH3?
Blue? I just reached the hospital in 3, my fog is gray-white.
Clairvoyance
Member
Downloading now. The update is 348MB on my side too.
Somnium986
Member
Typographenia
Member
Tomm proposed it might be caused by starting up an old save after installing the patch, but I don't know that it would/should be responsible.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
The Rosewater park fog fuckup is fixed, but the water looks really weird, like it had been replaced with a giant slab of concrete. Was it like that in the PS2 version too?
Typographenia
Member
I'm confused. What's the Lisa Lionheart in this comparison?
RadioHeadAche
Member
I had blue fog in Silent Hill 3, but I was playing a new game. However, it was an extra new game. I still saw a lot of framerate stuttering and second-long freezes. One time, my game actually did freeze when I got hit by an enemy. Other than that, the voice-synching is much better, but this is still a terrible port.
As for Silent Hill 2:
-There was a bit more fog than before, especially during the Rosewater Park scene. I did see the water "vortex" during the boat ride, though. However, it was more noticeable in cutscene rather than gameplay.
-The voice-synching was improved, and it seems that they altered James' breathing for the new voice-over so that it doesn't sound like sawing a log.
-The first Pyramid Head cutscene was fixed and plays properly.
-I also noticed the horrible shadow effects in this game too. I don't know why they're so jagged.
-Part of the texture for the "Abstract Daddy" boss and "Doormen" enemies disappeared when they died. Their bodies were visible, but the fleshy part of the frame vanished as soon as they hit the ground.
-That weird teeth-thing was still visible in Maria's eye at the end.
-The running animation slow-down was fixed, but I saw a lot more framerate stuttering and slowdown than SH3.
-The sound of blaring horns in the Historical Society has been restored.
Overall, Silent Hill 2 was the lesser of two evils in this collection and that still seems to be the case post-patch.
As for Silent Hill 2:
-There was a bit more fog than before, especially during the Rosewater Park scene. I did see the water "vortex" during the boat ride, though. However, it was more noticeable in cutscene rather than gameplay.
-The voice-synching was improved, and it seems that they altered James' breathing for the new voice-over so that it doesn't sound like sawing a log.
-The first Pyramid Head cutscene was fixed and plays properly.
-I also noticed the horrible shadow effects in this game too. I don't know why they're so jagged.
-Part of the texture for the "Abstract Daddy" boss and "Doormen" enemies disappeared when they died. Their bodies were visible, but the fleshy part of the frame vanished as soon as they hit the ground.
-That weird teeth-thing was still visible in Maria's eye at the end.
-The running animation slow-down was fixed, but I saw a lot more framerate stuttering and slowdown than SH3.
-The sound of blaring horns in the Historical Society has been restored.
Overall, Silent Hill 2 was the lesser of two evils in this collection and that still seems to be the case post-patch.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Separate episode you select from a menu.
Thanks! I presumed it wasn't. Is it there from the start or after you beat the game? If from the start, would you play it first on a replay?
Typographenia
Member
...sure.
Yup! It has its own separate saves files and such, so it's definitely possible.
It's rather short, so I'd encourage you, Locke_211, you play it in one sitting if at all possible.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Fog horn in SH Historical Society is back in, yay. But come to think of it, was that fog horn included as a reference to the disappearance of the 'Little Baroness'?