You do realize none of those games you listed have physical copies available, right?
SimCity modded so it can be played offline indefinitely + editing of highways
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You do realize none of those games you listed have physical copies available, right?
That is a great loss indeed, but another thing I personally would be willing to give up.
I hope that the future is bright for both sides of the isle, I'd be willing to continue gaming without the types of things that Always Online brings... though I don't know if people on the other side of the issue feel the same.
Also not necessarily true though, DOTA 2 allows for a certain amount of user made modifications in game... it's just completely controlled by Valve.
greycolumbus
The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
Not a chance, they're defending him, see the 2nd paragraph. Fucking idiots.
That's really odd. I don't understand how Gies could speak with any sort of authority when its been shown how deceitful industry information can be.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Let this sink in for a second.
The game has your savedata locally, then uploads it at the next update tick.
If you don't have a connection and close the game it will delete that savedata.
Seriously, let this sink in.
Catching a liar lie to your face about lying.
I'm sure there's a meme for that, and that there is a special place in hell for that person.
Doczu
Member
So we've learned:
1) Gies is a clown ( already well known but now everyone can see it )
2) Maxis sucks as much as EA now. Lucy the liar. This was their decision to screw consumers over
3) Thank you modding community for attempting to fix this game. One guy does what the entirety of Maxis cannot do.
1) Gies is a clown ( already well known but now everyone can see it )
2) Maxis sucks as much as EA now. Lucy the liar. This was their decision to screw consumers over
3) Thank you modding community for attempting to fix this game. One guy does what the entirety of Maxis cannot do.
Have we determined yet that the primary reason was anything other than gameplay? Or are we just assuming that because modders have been able to introduce limited offline capability the only reason for online would be DRM?
So? I don't care about resale possibilities when I buy a game for 5-10$
Jake Tower
Banned
If you're a Polygon reviews editor, you literally don't know what you're talking about.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Pretty sure the poster in question hasn't played the series to continue down this line of reasoning.
EDit:lol I told Glassbox that Maxis were liars right after his original quote.
Double lol at Polygon/Gies not taking the L for being so wrong.
The most important part is still not what was said, but that EA let the hype train go. When people said "FUCK YEAAAAH, INDIVIDUAL SIMS", EA didn't say "no, you misunderstood". That's why people are upset, and that's why they're rightfully upset. KKRT00 doesn't seem to understand that this isn't a court where evidence is laid forth to be scrutinized and then acted upon. The press EA and Maxis has created has painted an unrealistic picture, and the only evidence for that is the sheer amount of peoples saying "WHAT?!" when they realise how the game really runs.
I haven't. Maybe mine eyes will see the light when I do.
Though I don't think in this particular instance it would stop me from commenting on the well known implementations of multiplayer in Demon Souls/Dark Souls.
The online features are currently disabled/broken. Self-imposed by maxis to alleviate server congestion..... Tells you all you need to know about forcing always-online in the game.
(other than logging in to play)
help me here. What is your point?
Not necessarily, it just tells you that they fucked up in their stress tests/whatever. Maxis could have had the best of intentions (DRM piggy backing on those intentions).
Though at this point the fact that they haven't started working with the community to introduce some kind of offline mode kind of implies that at the very least they're letting Pride and Hubris blind them.
Woah, you'd give up the creation of stuff like Counter-strike, Team Fortress, DayZ and DotA, to name but a few, for a future where every game would be connected to the internet for smoother social interaction?
nopenopenope
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My point was is he complaining about not being able to resell an EA game while listing off several games he cannot resell.
I love DotA
When you put it that way, I think I'd rather have Mod tools than smoother social interaction.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
So has EA or Maxis had anything to say about this? Because this makes them look prettyyyy bad, despite the fact that they are offering a free game on origin as compensation.
QuicheFontaine
Member
Hey, leave me out of it.
I love DotA
When you put it that way, I think I'd rather have Mod tools than smoother social interaction.
Phew, good man! I thought you'd gone crazy there. *wipes sweat from brow*
Baleoce
Member
Yup, the PR spin will be that their focal point is on the social interaction and community building, and that's why it was "technically impossible". Can see it coming a mile off.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
This is fucking delicious. We all knew, but there's nothing like having hard proof. Getting busted flat out lying to your customers is good shit.
This post in this very thread would appear to be quite damning.
Can you please give some more clear examples of the kind of advantages you perceive this online only future to bring? I'm really trying to understand your point of view, but all I've seen you point to is vague concepts like 'communication' that are all already possible without online only.
It's only 8am on the west coast. Probably won't hear anything until later, if at all.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I love DotA
When you put it that way, I think I'd rather have Mod tools than smoother social interaction.
There should be a tag for anyone willing to respond to reason (there would not be a lot of tags), I tip my hat to you.
CambriaRising
Member
A video game company....lied?
I doubt we'll get any response at all. They'll act like it didn't happen or doesn't exist.
Aquamarine
Member
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
If that's true, then modders are going to have offline play modded by the end of the week, lol.
The possibility of communication or interaction is sometimes outweighed by the inconvenience of actually doing it. All of the benefits I'm talking about the purposely vague because we haven't seen a perfect implementation. Diablo III is as good as it gets, but that's a very specific type of game with an economy based around a huge community so I don't think it counts.
Diablo III and (as Durante mentioned) Dark Souls do provide an interesting look at what such a future holds however, and I'm excited about it. Although as was recently pointed out to me, if such a future means we don't get something like DotA ever made, then I'm back out.
Like a damn fiddle.
From reddit:
The only things currently working are being able to build great works and occasionally some sims from other towns come to shop. (but only really implied by a message appearing on your screen.)
Maxis also claims:
Everything that users were complaining about being broken on launch day
Load/Saving, regional commerce, great works, talking with friends, leaderboards, trading (including implicit trading like commuters), regional unlocks from city halls, etc. Plus cheat detection.
There's probably some other things I'm missing.
I personally don't remember anywhere we claimed that your local city wasn't simulating on your computer. Doing it otherwise would be insane. Even fully synchronous online games like League of Legends do a significant amount of gameplay simulation on your local machine to help hide latency, and part of our scalability and multiplayer design was that online play would be generally asynchronous--you could do stuff in your city while I'm not online and vice versa.
EDIT: It's awesome how having a 'maxis' logo on your name in a detailed, open answer leads to downvotes. Stay classy, /r/SimCity. Please don't turn into /r/gaming.
The only things currently working are being able to build great works and occasionally some sims from other towns come to shop. (but only really implied by a message appearing on your screen.)
Maxis also claims:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
This DRM may last an entire 2 weeks, a new record. Well worth it for all the loss of mindshare right?
the damage control has begun. i like how he's butthurt about the loss of karma too.
the damage control has begun. i like how he's butthurt about the loss of karma too.
Some Maxis Guy said:
Blame Maxis and EA then, not /r/SimCity. Your lack of clear communication from the beginning has caused people to not trust ANYTHING out of that dev team.
And this is why I have absolutely no sympathy for the fools who support anti-consumer practices and then whine when they get burned.
It's like buying a car half broken and hope someone in the future, maybe, will fix it.
Genius
My point is: The game connected to the internet is vastly different from the game without. You are optionally choosing to play a different game. Playing the 'real' experience absolutely mandates an internet connection.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Yay, I can get this now
Not a chance, they're defending him, see the 2nd paragraph. Fucking idiots.
Isn't the point he's missing that a great many of the people complaining are 'just looking for a basic city simulation'? The bits offline play exclude you from are - in many cases - things that many of the complainers regard as tangential to the central experience?
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
No, not yet. But soon hopefully. Soon.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
He never had any in the first place.
It's totally that and nothing to do with an attitude that says posts which demonstrated your boss lied to customers and made them part with money for a non-functional product under false pretenses are only worthy of a "yawn".
Stay classy, Maxis devs.