I was bored with the game within 2 days. I'm sure other people had the same experience.
SimCity modded so it can be played offline indefinitely + editing of highways
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I was bored with the game within 2 days. I'm sure other people had the same experience.
And this is exactly where people are completely wrong.
In 2 weeks they will post their sales figures and tell us the game has sold X million units. It's only a flop for those 1% of people who actually care for those problems.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Not really, piracy levels will be high for people who haven't bought in yet. EA are going to lose out from this. You can buy a copy from Origin and then hassle about to mod it or you can download a copy with the crack, mods and instructions from any number of torrent sites. EA haven't made it easy to buy this game. Sure there will be a few people who will buy a licence anyway (I will) but there will be many who won't.
Me to...aka avoid the game like the fucking plague just like any other MMO.
This is a very good question.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
That's probably because of individual Sim agent simulation, as the city population grows the simulation requirements for all of those agents grow. It would be much better to go back to SC3000/4 style mass simulation of crowds rather than individuals.
Burger
Member
I can see this.
But if EA couldn't even get enough server space to manage connections, would they have built a big enough server farm to handle all the calculations?
It would be cool if SimCity were distributed. Like the powerful PCs were doing work for the less powerful ones... But then you could sue EA for "stealing" your computaional power (i.e. electricity) and "giving" it to another person.
You're saving your city ALL the time while playing. That's where the traffic comes from.
Kill Your Masters
Member
One can only hope people will think twice before buying the next EA cashgrab Facebook port. But who am I kidding...
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Tell me about it, such incompetence
Tizoc
Member
Awesomenauts is an MMO with an offline mode IIRC, same with Dungeon Defenders i think, which i've heard were pretty good.
Server problems are widespread, though. It's not like bugs or crappy simulation engine, even the most casual players will be pissed when they find out that the game they bought doesn't work and will be back in parameter:string. Even if EA manages to sell a decent amount of copies (I hope they don't), they still lost a good chunk of SC fans (not necessarily hardcore fans). EA can't just pretend everything is going well, especially if they want to sell a crapton of DLCs.
Fox fucking news is making EA out to be a villain.
Fox news is making EA out to be a villain.
Man, Sim City has been pretty polarizing.
There's only one pope, the Dorito Pope.
Most US news media hates games. Fox especially hates games.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Polarizing implies conflicting similar amounts of like and dislike.
Apart from the industry shills, everyone else has derided this watered down, broken mess of a game.
The funny thing is that SimCity is such a huge brand, especially among "casuals" that this game is going to be a huge hit for years.
People are gonna just be plucking this off the shelf at Walmart for at least a decade. It's like Deer Hunter, "ooh, that looks good, gonna buy that."
"Hey, SimCity, I know that game, gonna buy that."
And people don't care cause it looks better than anything on FaceBook.
SimCity isn't for us, it's for our parents.
People are gonna just be plucking this off the shelf at Walmart for at least a decade. It's like Deer Hunter, "ooh, that looks good, gonna buy that."
"Hey, SimCity, I know that game, gonna buy that."
And people don't care cause it looks better than anything on FaceBook.
SimCity isn't for us, it's for our parents.
If you're a parent, it's still for your parents.
back to business on increasing the city size:
SimCity_RegionTerrain0.package should include all properties for all regions/city areas.
InstanceID 0x51e7a18d has 9 properties. These should resemble the different regions. (there are 9, right?)
From you'll find a lot of references to other properties - I don't have the time to look into it though.
SimCity_RegionTerrain0.package should include all properties for all regions/city areas.
InstanceID 0x51e7a18d has 9 properties. These should resemble the different regions. (there are 9, right?)
From you'll find a lot of references to other properties - I don't have the time to look into it though.
PRjumpman124
Member
Yikes, this is gonna drive people mad when they wake up soon.
SolidSnakex
Member
It's just amazing. This seems like one of those subjects that you shouldn't even touch even if you really do believe them when they say that it needs to always be connected. It's not like they could say anything else given the circumstances.
So everyone who has any positive opinion are industry shills now?
Single player games aren't really judged in terms of long-term engagement. If they manage to sell a buttload of copies, even if it doesn't work half the time it's still a success. If they were trying to position Sim City as an ongoing service, and their profit model was dependent on continued engagement, THEN it might be a flop.
He's from IGN.
dragonelite
Member
They calculated how to overflow my city with passengers...
Now the challenge of the game is beating the stupid AI. And mold it to your control.
flyinpiranha
Member
Haha. Unsurprising lack of EA apologists in these threads as of late.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Says it all really.
Get out, EA shill.
It confuses me why they thought any kind of granular simulation of people/power/cars/sewage would be a good decision when they ended up doing it so badly anyway.
I'd say they made the decision entirely because they thought (probably correctly) that most people would be more impressed by seeing individually named Sims walking to and from work (unless your city is only residential lol) than by any good underlying simulation, but it seems like that would be something they could add as a fake layer on top of a better AI routine rather than actually trying to do it and failing so spectacularly.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
I have no idea why Gies is responding so harshly to his readers. I guess they're pushing him, but as an objective member of the gaming press, his response to readers should not be to tell them "you literally don't know what you're talking about." It sounds super-defensive of EA/Maxis and super critical of the gaming public, and there's no reason for him to take that tone. He's not working for EA, why is he so quick to internalise the criticisms of them?
Knowing something intuitively is different from knowing something factually.
Charoncaori
Member
Kind of? (Isn't that what truth is, anyway?) He was right when he tweeted it. Anyone who was just inferring that an offline mode could be easily patched in with no proof and INSISTING they were right was being pretty damn naive. How would they have any idea about how the software actually works?
If he keeps clinging to his views about it though, HE is the moron.
Well, certain members of the videogame press seemed to know for sure that it certainly wasn't possible, rushing to the defense of EA at every opportunity.
Plus, he doesn't know more about SimCity's source code than anyone else outside Maxis. That didn't stop him from pretending to know more of course:
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Yes, because knowing something intuitively isn't knowledge. It's intuition.
I noticed quite frequently when I was working in the industry that there was a lot of focus on finding good 'soundbite features' - it was better to have a feature that *sounded* good rather than one that necessarily was good. When you start thinking in those terms, you suddenly start to see an awful lot of games pitched in those terms, and you start mentally appending "instead of what?" to those claims.
Everyone who tries to downsize people problems are shills. You can have constructive positive opinion but you can't say Game is good and people are whiners and don't know anything.
Is there a city named tessendorf(Water) in the game ?
Jerry Tessendorf is a guy from USCD who wrote a paper on simulating sea water in 2005, it has nothing to do with cities. They probably just use his method.
I do not think you know what the word shill means.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Is there a city named tessendorf(Water) in the game ?
No. That's a water simulation profile.
Team Filler
Member
Yup, it's probably the most common water shader right now, pretty much the best results when you don't need actual physical simulation. Whenever you're looking at a lake or ocean with waves in a current gen game, chances are you're looking at Tessendorf's legacy.