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SimCity |OT| It's not the simulation or city that matter, it's <parameter: string>
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rangersfan414
Member
-18k an hour, but I still make huge profits from Trade.
18k? Damn, why so much?
Neuromancer
Member
God damn it EA. Still?!
rangersfan414
Member
Power: -2,568
Water: -2,500
Sewage: -1,410
Waste Disposal: -4,100
Government: -1,420
Fire: -1,275
Health: -5,200
Police: -8,500
Education: -3,750
Transportation: -5,260
Parks: -1,210
City Specs: -10,620
Residential (11% Tax): +25,993
Commercial (11% Tax): +902
Industrial (10$ Tax): +1,760
Total: -19,164
Monthly Transactions is +557,479 though.
Its ok if you are still making a mill daily from trades. Education costs pile up and taxes stop mattering after abcertain point.
I'm just surprised to keep a city alive long enough to get a university with engineering department. Now I'm actually stuck waiting on them to research vertical wind turbines because I've really used up about all the space I can afford on normal wind turbines.
Also only have 3 months worth of ore left under me, so I really need to find another source of income before long.
This one I started by building everything on medium density avenues. Nothing less. Slow start, but at least I didn't have to mow half the city over with almost cash on hand to rebuild it all like my 2nd attempt.
Also only have 3 months worth of ore left under me, so I really need to find another source of income before long.
This one I started by building everything on medium density avenues. Nothing less. Slow start, but at least I didn't have to mow half the city over with almost cash on hand to rebuild it all like my 2nd attempt.
Neuromancer
Member
Oh that's smart. I didn't think of that.
jamesinclair
Banned
does this not bother anyone else?
since when are cities funded from nationalized ore trading?
flashburn2012
Member
It just lets someone else pick up wherever it left off. No starting over.
Ore.
Alloy.
Plastic.
Microprocessors.
TVs.
You know, all kinds of shit.
I'm currently on -13k, but I get 300k a month.
I need to evolve into Microchips, but I'm afraid the transitioning period will kill me dead.
rangersfan414
Member
And how do you abandon a city? I've never seen the option to, but I'm curious how it's done.
I still need to learn the ins and outs of trade, still haven't figured out how to completely optimize for it.
It bothers me that education is subsidized. Didn't that use to be an ordinance?
On the join game screen in the main menu after selecting a server. Goddamn that's dumb, they should let the region creator restart any abandoned city.
Open game and don't continue. Go to join so you can see the regions you're currently a part of.
Open said region and any land you have developed on can be chosen to abandon.
Neuromancer
Member
Well if you have a trade center or port, there's an option like manage global deliveries. For any kind of storage you have there you have 3 options: import, export or local use only. So set whatever you want to export all at once to local use only until all your trade centers fill up, then switch them all to export. I imagine that's how you do it anyway, I haven't done it yet.
Dork Knight
Member
Fuckin EA
FYI: That server is currently undergoing an upgrade. Should make things better once it's back up.
I see, thanks for the headsup.
yeah, I got a piece of land that had Oil, Ore, and Coal, as well as a water edge.
I have built up 2 Trade Ports (with 2 Ship Docks), 1 large oil well, 1 coal mine, 2 ore mines, 2 Smelting plants, 2 Oil Refinery's, 3 processor plants and now 1 TV/Computer plant. Trading somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million a Month.
My regular budget is something like -$25 an hour. Think if the line is right, if I turned off all that specialized factories, that'd only save me 18-20K, still leaving me -5k.
Though if I got rid of all of that, I'd have 35-45% of my available land back :lol
I have built up 2 Trade Ports (with 2 Ship Docks), 1 large oil well, 1 coal mine, 2 ore mines, 2 Smelting plants, 2 Oil Refinery's, 3 processor plants and now 1 TV/Computer plant. Trading somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million a Month.
My regular budget is something like -$25 an hour. Think if the line is right, if I turned off all that specialized factories, that'd only save me 18-20K, still leaving me -5k.
Though if I got rid of all of that, I'd have 35-45% of my available land back :lol
So I focused on tourism. Sorry that's a lie I focused on gambling but that is so broken that's a story for another time.
But everyone went to bed and didn't build any bus stops or train stations. My traffic is now SO GRIDLOCKED. There is a 20 minute queue to enter my city. This game is fucked. The AI on buses is beyond redeemable as well- why is there 20 buses all lined up behind a stop? The more I play of this game the more I find it to be an unmitigated disaster even from a design side.
Basically make processors, turn them in to computers and sell them by rail. That's the only way you can enjoy this game without getting kneecapped by the traffic.
DAT ADVANCED 1 CORE AI!
But everyone went to bed and didn't build any bus stops or train stations. My traffic is now SO GRIDLOCKED. There is a 20 minute queue to enter my city. This game is fucked. The AI on buses is beyond redeemable as well- why is there 20 buses all lined up behind a stop? The more I play of this game the more I find it to be an unmitigated disaster even from a design side.
Basically make processors, turn them in to computers and sell them by rail. That's the only way you can enjoy this game without getting kneecapped by the traffic.
DAT ADVANCED 1 CORE AI!
lastplayed
Member
Sounds about right.
Kinky John
Member
Ugh disregard what I said a couple of days ago. Keep everything contained in one city because as soon as you branch out the AI collapses like a house cards in a tornado. :/
BanShunsaku
Member
Is your city named Sydney?
rangersfan414
Member
I have a region with a few cities on NA East 3 if anybody is interested.
i_am_ben
running_here_and_there
There are too many real world cities to name that began/continue to exist due to mining.
I believe we are going to start a new region on East 3 tomorrow. Ace is leading it I think.
Exclamation-One
Member
rangersfan414
Member
Oh okay. I just figured I'd offer cause so many people were looking for regions to play in. I'm fine the way it is now though, so it's no big deal.
Kinda getting bored of the game. Minerals are game breaking, maybe its just because I always seen to join cities with abundant natural resources. But it's basically a win button, the budget will be out of wack but you'll take in loads of cash monthly. Traffic gridlock and pollution are the main problems but street cars + trade sea/rail Ports slightly fix that. Buses suck balls and do not help traffic atall.
Another thing why the fuck do emergency services obey traffic rules, no shit you can't get to my burning building when you stop at every bloody set of lights.
/rant
Another thing why the fuck do emergency services obey traffic rules, no shit you can't get to my burning building when you stop at every bloody set of lights.
/rant
To be fair, you don't really need more than one Train Station: Everybody will dump out of it and hop on a bus/street car/walk to their goal.
But yes, AI is dumb as fuck in this game.
Nobody was using my street cars. I guess the sims were used to going everywhere by a car.
I literally DOUBLED Street Car stops on every street. My Street Car usage jumped from 40k to 120k in like 3 days - suddenly, Street Car Stops were close enough for the sims to use them.
However, after a while, my Street Car route was horrible, taking 80 minutes for the street cars to arrive (sure, they were stopping every couple feet). I then rearranged the stops bu cutting everything back: wherever I doubled the stops, I demolished both and put one in the middle.
Since the sims were already used to using StreetCars, I guess they didn't bother that the street cars were a couple feet away: The wait went from 80 minutes to 30 minutes and usage went from 140k to 180k.
In between rubbish trucks going in circles finding for trash to pick, and traffic in avenues still needing to find the next intersection before U-turning into the correct lane to access a building, yeah it's pretty dumb, though seeing the automata do it live this time around as opposed to SC4RH is pretty cool. I can see why it was hidden a bit the last time
Memory issues aside, I do feel that the not great pathfinding is one of the reasons larger city sizes weren't used in the design - those little agents would get bottlenecked at every intersection and leave transit times too long for the Sims to get anything done. And of course, no elevated/underground public options, but that'll be the Rush Hour equiv DLC.
storybook77
Member
I think something got broken along the way as they were trying to patch stuff and fix servers at the same time.
Fire trucks used to go 1 at a time responding to calls, now they all go to the same spot. Same for ambulances. Whatever traffic changes they made in their patches seems to have completely fucked the service vehicle AI as well.
I'm guessing this is part of the reason for that new "Test" server.
Fire trucks used to go 1 at a time responding to calls, now they all go to the same spot. Same for ambulances. Whatever traffic changes they made in their patches seems to have completely fucked the service vehicle AI as well.
I'm guessing this is part of the reason for that new "Test" server.
Make sure all your depots are set to export--you have to do it for each one.
In order to get my oil hq upgrade I had to hoard all my oil at my depots/wells and then start exporting at 12:01am. I just slipped in at 166k.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
fuck this disaster bullshit.
as im starting to recover from my nuclear meltdown, that garbage eating monster destroys my police headquaters, hospital and garbage dump.
(45mins real time later)
that motherfucker comes back and destroys my microchip plant, tradepost and recycling plant.
as im starting to recover from my nuclear meltdown, that garbage eating monster destroys my police headquaters, hospital and garbage dump.
(45mins real time later)
that motherfucker comes back and destroys my microchip plant, tradepost and recycling plant.
Seriously fuck everything about this AI nonsense and traffic, it is literally destroying every city I play.
Just had a city where fire went completely out of control. I placed so many fire stations and upgraded them to max trying to contain things but it kept getting worse and worse and I had no idea why.
While doing a bulldozing run of all the latest rubble, in one far corner of my map I see no shit 2 dozen+ fire trucks driving back and forth on a tiny stretch of road while a building burned down in front of them. It was like they all got there, were confused on which one of them should be fighting the fire, so they kept driving up and down the road waiting to resolve who should fight the fire. When the building finally burned down, they all raced off to the next house on fire and repeated the same little dance.
The only way I was able to get the fire in my city under control was to build an airport; then plop fire fighting helicopter modules on the fire stations.
Btw if you are looking to have a fun stress relieving way to deal with traffic woes, Dr. Vu's Vubot once unleashed starts shooting cars with laser beams. May set a house or two on fire, but it's worth it to watch him run up and down the roads blowing up cars.
So basically "It's a shame SimCity is stuck in the 1950s" was wrong, but right!
GAF World's (VW3 2.0) Space Centre is almost complete! Currently in the construction phase and no longer needs materials!
And after reading about that AI... wow. No wonder it's horrible. Not a big deal they go to the nearest house (still lame though) BUT, they should at least try to take alternate routes if the "shortest" one is clogged up. And it is hilarious to see a convoy of double decker buses rampaging my city streets.
And after reading about that AI... wow. No wonder it's horrible. Not a big deal they go to the nearest house (still lame though) BUT, they should at least try to take alternate routes if the "shortest" one is clogged up. And it is hilarious to see a convoy of double decker buses rampaging my city streets.
Every region I join, everybody just runs away after two days and I'm all by myself again.
sigh. Need to find some proper people to play with!
Well to be fair, I built it all myself haha. Fuel was so cheap to import I built 2 trade depots and just sent it on to the great work. More people finally moved into my part of the region though so their workers are helping to build it in phase 2.