CajoleJuice
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If you're talking about that scene with Brittany Murphy talking out the window, I think that was on purpose.LakeEarth said:
At least I really hope it was meant to be corny and bad...
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At least I really hope it was meant to be corny and bad...
IAmtheFMan
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This movie kicked all sorts of ass.
Fixed2BeBroken
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yea the little bad acting parts i believe were meant to be that way. (the most obvious ones anyway)
and i thought alba did pretty good, i was expecting her to just be horrible but she did good to me.
and i thought alba did pretty good, i was expecting her to just be horrible but she did good to me.
CajoleJuice
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I forgot about the Madsen part in the beginning. That was awkward.
Kumiko Nikaido
Vindication...sweet.
Sin City was thoroughly entertaining. Very engaging dialogue, great atmosphere, and it's noir-ish looks that brought storyboards to life.
The movie was violent, brutal, and some scenes were over-the-top and crazy, no doubt many will disagree about it's graphic depictions....but hey this film pulls no punches when it comes to serving vengeance and justice.
Stylish and captivating, Sin City is truly hardcore. Robert Rodriguez, Quentin Tarantino, and Frank Miller are the perfect triumvirate in bringing graphic novels and comic books to life. Bow to their supremacy!
The movie was violent, brutal, and some scenes were over-the-top and crazy, no doubt many will disagree about it's graphic depictions....but hey this film pulls no punches when it comes to serving vengeance and justice.
Stylish and captivating, Sin City is truly hardcore. Robert Rodriguez, Quentin Tarantino, and Frank Miller are the perfect triumvirate in bringing graphic novels and comic books to life. Bow to their supremacy!
I missed the first 10 minutes of the movie so that last scene at the end threw me off.
The only thing that really bothered me was the "weight" of Marv. His movement seemed off and it didn't make sense. I don't know if it was intentional or not and I didn't notice anything like this in any other part of the movie. Everything else seemed to fit with the style of the movie except for Marv's "weight."
I don't know about you guys but half the time I was thinking, "I can't believe they gave Frank Miller this much control!" Comic book movies rearly, if ever, turn out this faithful to the original source material.
Spike Spiegel
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Sure, I'll give it a go before beditme (like I can sleep this jazzed up, anyway...).Lonely College Student said:
Right now there are seven (?) Sin City graphic novels, and this film adapts three of them: 'The Hard Goodbye', 'That Yellow Bastard', and 'The Big Fat Kill'. I think you can guess which is which... Anyway, the remaining four are 'A Dame to Kill For', 'Family Values', 'Hell and Back', and 'Booze Broads and Bullets'.
'Booze Broads and Bullets' as I recall is just a short story collection, so I'm not sure how well that could be adapted into a film, but the remaining three are full stories like the ones that made up this movie.
'A Dame to Kill For' and 'Family Values' are both Dwight stories. 'Dame' takes place before 'Big Fat Kill' and features a lot of familiar faces (Marv, Nancy, Shelley, Goldie/Wendy, Gail, Miho, Manute, etc. etc.). I really don't wanna give anything away, so I'll just say that in 'Dame' a reforming Dwight is sucked into his old life of sex and violence when THE ex-girlfriend comes calling and begs for his help. 'Family Values' takes place after 'Big Fat Kill', and is a pretty straightforward tale of Old Town vengeance featuring Dwight. The whole story ends up being (IMO, at least) little more than an excuse to showcase more of "deadly little Miho"'s talents.
'Hell and Back' I haven't had a chance to fully read, just and issue here and there. But believe it or not, it's a love story... 'Hell' introduces a new hero, Wallace, the haggard artist with a shady past and a talent for killing people. One night he saves a mysterious young woman named Esther after her suicide attempt; the two fall in love, everything's going great... and then Esther is kidnapped, and it's up to Wallace to find out who Esther was, and save her from whatever fate her captors have in store for her. It's the longest of the Sin City stories, and chock-full of violence, corruption, romance, drugs, slavery, and other stuff.
Ned Flanders
Banned
Caught a late afternoon showing and left pleased. As mentioned, the cinematics in this movie are simply incredible. I really felt a sort of disconnect at times where I began watching the film as though I were reading a comic. Amazing.
Some of the acting was awkward (Madsen's first scenes with Willis), but I think its important to remember Miller's style of writing and characterization lends itself toward a classic film-noir caper flick style of delivery. Many of the lines were supposed to be slightly hammy by todays standards, especially given that some of the characters, particularly the women, were meant to be kind of one-dimensional (lesbian sexpot Gugino, sidetalkin Murphy, simple-but-virtuous Alba etc).
I'm sure the heavy use of green-screen contributed to some of the awkwardness as well..at least I hope thats Madsen's excuse. Either that or maybe some of the rehersal footage got subbed for the final cuts when adding in the effects
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One thing I'm suprised that people didn't mention outside of the requisite gore was the sheer amount of seething negativity in this film. Be it through torture, hopelesness, perversion, betrayal, violence or scary makeup, the movie carried with it a looming uneasiness/despair that I haven't felt embodied as well since Seven came out nearly a decade ago. Maybe Requiem for a Dream. Perhaps the title should have clued me in, but not knowing anything about the novel beforehand meant I was unprepared to be dragged through such a cesspool of dread. The gore wasn't simply incidental, it was usually the direct result of the sadism and malice that was teeming through the characters of this movie. Assuming the novels were equally as disconcerting, I guess you could say the film did well in translating the mood. But man did it make me uneasy at times..(ie the end of Yellow Bastard).
All in all I came out impressed. The movie seemed to kind of lull a bit in the middle, and there was some required disbelief suspension in the character motivations (Dwight and Marv in particular), but as a whole I came out of Sin City with far a greater sense of satisfaction than any Rodriguez/Tarantino's films not named Desperado/Resirvoir Dogs/Pulp Fiction. Gives me great hope for the future of comic/graphic novel adaptations.
Some of the acting was awkward (Madsen's first scenes with Willis), but I think its important to remember Miller's style of writing and characterization lends itself toward a classic film-noir caper flick style of delivery. Many of the lines were supposed to be slightly hammy by todays standards, especially given that some of the characters, particularly the women, were meant to be kind of one-dimensional (lesbian sexpot Gugino, sidetalkin Murphy, simple-but-virtuous Alba etc).
I'm sure the heavy use of green-screen contributed to some of the awkwardness as well..at least I hope thats Madsen's excuse. Either that or maybe some of the rehersal footage got subbed for the final cuts when adding in the effects
.One thing I'm suprised that people didn't mention outside of the requisite gore was the sheer amount of seething negativity in this film. Be it through torture, hopelesness, perversion, betrayal, violence or scary makeup, the movie carried with it a looming uneasiness/despair that I haven't felt embodied as well since Seven came out nearly a decade ago. Maybe Requiem for a Dream. Perhaps the title should have clued me in, but not knowing anything about the novel beforehand meant I was unprepared to be dragged through such a cesspool of dread. The gore wasn't simply incidental, it was usually the direct result of the sadism and malice that was teeming through the characters of this movie. Assuming the novels were equally as disconcerting, I guess you could say the film did well in translating the mood. But man did it make me uneasy at times..(ie the end of Yellow Bastard).
All in all I came out impressed. The movie seemed to kind of lull a bit in the middle, and there was some required disbelief suspension in the character motivations (Dwight and Marv in particular), but as a whole I came out of Sin City with far a greater sense of satisfaction than any Rodriguez/Tarantino's films not named Desperado/Resirvoir Dogs/Pulp Fiction. Gives me great hope for the future of comic/graphic novel adaptations.
Rules in Sin City
If your face is a bit fucked up, and you're still alive, you're the hero
Unless your eyes glow, you wear a Charlie Brown shirt, and have lee press-on nails, then you aren't
If you're a woman, you're weak
Unless you're a prostitute
If you're wearing a cross, you're a traitor
Unless...well, there is no unless.
Unless your eyes glow, you wear a Charlie Brown shirt, and have lee press-on nails, then you aren't
If you're a woman, you're weak
Unless you're a prostitute
If you're wearing a cross, you're a traitor
Unless...well, there is no unless.
With Kevin at the end
Anyway, Marv was unbelievably bad ass. Oh, and I didn't really like some of the comical action sequences personally, but overall the action was damn good. Handcuffs man! Awesome stuff. Oh, and I noticed the Madsen scene as well. I was thinking "if this keeps up, this could be ridiculous". And then Marv came on screen. And his initial voice over was straight broken glass. I was unsure about that, hoping he'd tone it down. But after that first voice over, it was great. "These are the all or nothing days" was so awesome the way he threw out the line.
I had to shed a tear when Jessica Alba came on too, realizing I should be watching her bare ass and tits right at that moment. *sigh* Still, lots of hot chicks was a plus. Gotta give it up to Clive, Mickey, Bruce, Del Toro, and Elijah... Those guys rocked so damn hard. And of course, Frank Miller and Robert Rodriguez.
About the despair, yeah, it was a bit overwhelming. Dark Knight Returns was a lot like that too. There's a lot of tradgedy in his graphic novels. It's quite shocking when compared to other novels or movies.
As far as the movie on a whole, totally satisfying, shocking, entertaining, and refreshing. There's gonna be a lot of people blown away, and some dissapointed, but it's definitely going to evoke some response.
Me and my friend both agreed, he's way too brilliant to not know. His face never changes as well, so you can't say he looked dumbfounded. It just seemed, he had no interest in interfering we agreed. Somehow, I really felt that he had an akward integrity about him in the end, to where I just admitted he was bad ass.
Anyway, Marv was unbelievably bad ass. Oh, and I didn't really like some of the comical action sequences personally, but overall the action was damn good. Handcuffs man! Awesome stuff. Oh, and I noticed the Madsen scene as well. I was thinking "if this keeps up, this could be ridiculous". And then Marv came on screen. And his initial voice over was straight broken glass. I was unsure about that, hoping he'd tone it down. But after that first voice over, it was great. "These are the all or nothing days" was so awesome the way he threw out the line.
I had to shed a tear when Jessica Alba came on too, realizing I should be watching her bare ass and tits right at that moment. *sigh* Still, lots of hot chicks was a plus. Gotta give it up to Clive, Mickey, Bruce, Del Toro, and Elijah... Those guys rocked so damn hard. And of course, Frank Miller and Robert Rodriguez.
About the despair, yeah, it was a bit overwhelming. Dark Knight Returns was a lot like that too. There's a lot of tradgedy in his graphic novels. It's quite shocking when compared to other novels or movies.
As far as the movie on a whole, totally satisfying, shocking, entertaining, and refreshing. There's gonna be a lot of people blown away, and some dissapointed, but it's definitely going to evoke some response.
Well, I just saw it for the second time tonight. I caught a sneak preview on wednesday and I have to say this is looking to be a hard one to top for 2k5.
I'm not really seeing eye to eye with the criticism. Maybe I'm easy to please, and maybe I enjoy over the top obviously ham fisted acting, but I thought Madsen's delivery in the opening was nothing short of brilliant. It was perfect Noir dialogue...
The mood was also just mind numbingly well captured. The entire movie just ebs with despair and treachery. There is no happy ending, just some bitter sweet success amongst rows and rows of carnage and chaos. No one walks away unscathed, no one plants their flag victoriously. Completely powerful.
And I don't think it needs to be said, but the style of this movie is out of this god damn world. Such a perfect adaptation from Graphic Novel to Film. I pray and pray that this isn't the last we see of live action Sin City.. bring on the next 4 stories Frank. Please?
I'm not really seeing eye to eye with the criticism. Maybe I'm easy to please, and maybe I enjoy over the top obviously ham fisted acting, but I thought Madsen's delivery in the opening was nothing short of brilliant. It was perfect Noir dialogue...
The mood was also just mind numbingly well captured. The entire movie just ebs with despair and treachery. There is no happy ending, just some bitter sweet success amongst rows and rows of carnage and chaos. No one walks away unscathed, no one plants their flag victoriously. Completely powerful.
And I don't think it needs to be said, but the style of this movie is out of this god damn world. Such a perfect adaptation from Graphic Novel to Film. I pray and pray that this isn't the last we see of live action Sin City.. bring on the next 4 stories Frank. Please?
I dunno... if you went into it wanting to see people die and kill in cool ways, you were probably entertained.
Characters were all awesome. I was very much impressed with Willis, Rourke, and Frodo. Even King Arthur did a good job. I was shocked. Rosario Dawson was a bit an annoying rag, but I mean, what do you expect?
Anyways, I felt the pacing was a bit off. I can't really describe it, but I left the theater feeling very underwhelmed. Awesome style, awesome story, awesome characters... but it just didn't hit its peak, in my opinion, for some reason. It's really hard to describe it.
And note, too, that I didn't read any of Millers works, so I'm judging this strictly as a movie and not as an adaptation of a comic book. But yeah... maybe my problem was that I went into it thinking I'd get "FUCKING AWESOME!" and left only getting "really good". i'll have to see it a second time to finalize my opinion though. I didn't like 28 Days Later the first time I saw it, and then the second time I saw it I left the theater thinking it was one of the best 'horror' flicks I'd ever seen.
Characters were all awesome. I was very much impressed with Willis, Rourke, and Frodo. Even King Arthur did a good job. I was shocked. Rosario Dawson was a bit an annoying rag, but I mean, what do you expect?
Anyways, I felt the pacing was a bit off. I can't really describe it, but I left the theater feeling very underwhelmed. Awesome style, awesome story, awesome characters... but it just didn't hit its peak, in my opinion, for some reason. It's really hard to describe it.
And note, too, that I didn't read any of Millers works, so I'm judging this strictly as a movie and not as an adaptation of a comic book. But yeah... maybe my problem was that I went into it thinking I'd get "FUCKING AWESOME!" and left only getting "really good". i'll have to see it a second time to finalize my opinion though. I didn't like 28 Days Later the first time I saw it, and then the second time I saw it I left the theater thinking it was one of the best 'horror' flicks I'd ever seen.
Wicked movie. I loved the visual style, it really felt like a comic book had come to life before my eyes. I liked the narrative style. It seems that there was more narrative then dialogue, but it worked. It looks like they didn't even have a screenplay but rather just picked up the books and started shooting, cool stuff.
My favorite character was Marv, so badass. Dwight was pretty cool too and Hartigan was interesting. And Kevin...shoot I'll never look at Elijah Wood the same way again. I can't wait for the extended stories on the dvd.
My favorite character was Marv, so badass. Dwight was pretty cool too and Hartigan was interesting. And Kevin...shoot I'll never look at Elijah Wood the same way again. I can't wait for the extended stories on the dvd.
Cold-Steel
Member
Great movie, really enjoyed it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
saw this last night. Great fuckin flick. The best so far of 2005 easily, and maybe the best comic book movie ever. Just a tour de force from beginning to end. Everything going on on screen keeps you captivated til the credits roll. Only low points was Madsen seemingly wasted on an underwhelming part, and Britanny Murphy's bad acting (did anyone else notice her on/off again accent?) Here's to hoping everybody comes back to do a sequel.
Ash Housewares
The Mountain Jew
Brittany Murphy was just terrible, easily the lowpoint of the film was enduring her dialogue, yelling at a whisper is not convincing, she has to be able to make some sound, to put some conviction into her delivery, there was just nothing there
The Interrobanger
Member
I thought it was pretty good overall, even great maybe, but it didn't blow me away as much as I expected it too.
I guess I'm not alone in thinking the acting by Madsen in the beginning was horrible.
I guess I'm not alone in thinking the acting by Madsen in the beginning was horrible.
ToyMachine228
Member
Can anyone tell me where I could download the title track to Sin City that Robert Rodriguez wrote? The one that plays a couple different times in the movie in different variations...And during the Sin City logo in the beginning. Or anything about it...Thanks!
junkwaffle
In Front and Drawing Away
Saw it yesterday. It must mean something when you're haunted by the characters, dialogue and images of the movie so much, that you just want to talk about it long after the movie is over. Serious debriefing required. I'm surprised how much the style of the movie not only didn't distract me, but actually underwhelmed me a bit - but that's a compliment to the unexpected writing.
I really dug it.
I really dug it.
Thing I liked about Sin City;
1) Character's lines are simply brilliant. At times very witty and funny. The dichotomy that I find is that since the eyecandy sometime takes away from how brilliant the writing really is. Some memorable lines include "Old man dies...Young girl lives....fair trade."
2) Ha! What owned me very much was the J.D. Sallinger-styled "open for philosophical implications" thing about the movie. The post-modern nihilistic/existential themes are there. Me and my friend spent hours talking about them. After talking about the movie in retrospect, we realized how three-dimensional the movie really was (figuratively speaking). Sometimes there were little things that if you caught them, it would've brought a smile to your face (because you realize the significance of it).
3) The music. Perfect for the movie and really cool apart from it being so fitting. Reminded me of Cinematic Orchestra meets DJ Food meets Dust Brothers, but mostly DJ Food (Kaleidoscope)
4) Jessican Alba. Wow. She was so charming and cute. I'm so glad she
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5) Yeah, yeah, whatever...the graphics and stuff. Believe it or not i was more entertained by other things more than the graphics, but thats just my opinion.
Funny observation: I went with 3 guy friends and 4 chick friends and it turns out that chicks allowed the visuals to totally override their appreciation for the movie as a whole.
The chicks came out saying "what a waste of money" and talking about the boobies that showed up when us guys came out laughing at
and
and how clever some dialogues were.
The girls just rambled on and on about the nudity and how hard it was to watch the movie in black and white, when it seemed that for the guys, those two things were just simply non-issues! I don't know if its just my circle of chick friends...but it really bothered me that they had such superficial opinions about the movie.
1) Character's lines are simply brilliant. At times very witty and funny. The dichotomy that I find is that since the eyecandy sometime takes away from how brilliant the writing really is. Some memorable lines include "Old man dies...Young girl lives....fair trade."
2) Ha! What owned me very much was the J.D. Sallinger-styled "open for philosophical implications" thing about the movie. The post-modern nihilistic/existential themes are there. Me and my friend spent hours talking about them. After talking about the movie in retrospect, we realized how three-dimensional the movie really was (figuratively speaking). Sometimes there were little things that if you caught them, it would've brought a smile to your face (because you realize the significance of it).
3) The music. Perfect for the movie and really cool apart from it being so fitting. Reminded me of Cinematic Orchestra meets DJ Food meets Dust Brothers, but mostly DJ Food (Kaleidoscope)
4) Jessican Alba. Wow. She was so charming and cute. I'm so glad she
didn't show up naked (as the comics do so, I believe), as crazy as that sounds. I value my current impression of her being non-slutty, it makes her seem more attractive to me somehow
5) Yeah, yeah, whatever...the graphics and stuff. Believe it or not i was more entertained by other things more than the graphics, but thats just my opinion.
Funny observation: I went with 3 guy friends and 4 chick friends and it turns out that chicks allowed the visuals to totally override their appreciation for the movie as a whole.
The chicks came out saying "what a waste of money" and talking about the boobies that showed up when us guys came out laughing at
"the cop's absurd and uncommon plight of indigestion, lol what the heck?"
how the ugly dude (Goldie-lover) willfully stayed seated on the chair "tied up", taking the beating of the hookers and then he stands up like its all good and unties himself with no effort
The girls just rambled on and on about the nudity and how hard it was to watch the movie in black and white, when it seemed that for the guys, those two things were just simply non-issues! I don't know if its just my circle of chick friends...but it really bothered me that they had such superficial opinions about the movie.
I was surprised to see actors like Elijah, Josh, Michael Clark Duncan, and the Gilmore Girls chick in the movie. Elijah sure played one disturbing motherfucker. Pretty much everyone rocked in this movie except for Jessica Alba, I don't think she's much of an actress (hell, girl who played the 11 year old version of Nancy was better) but she sure looked good. I think I enjoyed Dwight's story most, pretty comical; Benicio Del Toro was particularly awesome, Clive Owen was great for someone I've never heard of, and it wasn't as depressing as the other two stories. Overall enjoyable movie, but I left the theatre pretty rattled 'cause it was so grim. I don't think I'll ever need to watch that movie again, but it was worth experiencing once. On a final note, I was deeply disappointed that we didn't get to see Rosario Dawson's goodies.
:lol She openly admitted to picking up random guys in the club for sex after her divorce.geogaddi said:
FortNinety
Member
Mercurial said:
Yeah, you're right. Okay, they're both tied in my book.
Ash Housewares
The Mountain Jew
srst said:
holy shit, it's the nazi zombie from American Werewolf in London, that is the coolest action figure in history!!
Being a Sin City and Rodriguez fan, I was predisposed to liking this movie. And I really did. Casting look and mood was right on the money, scary good. The first 10 mins or so were kind "eh", but the movie really got olling and kept getting better.
And did Rosario Dawson look hot as hell, or was it just me?
And did Rosario Dawson look hot as hell, or was it just me?
Cold-Steel
Member
Carla Gugino was fucking gorgeous.
Mickey Rourke and Bruce Willis deliver action again.
Josh Harnett and Elijah Wood were good choices for assassins.
Mickey Rourke and Bruce Willis deliver action again.
Josh Harnett and Elijah Wood were good choices for assassins.
'meh.
That was my feeling after seeing the credits roll. Great movie, 9.5/10 for sure, but Marv was the best damn thing about the movie. I thought he deserved more screen time than the other two. His story was by far the most entertaining and displayed the best visuals.
Great movie all around though.
Excellent acting by everyone (especially Marv, Ellijah Wood, and Bruce Willis).
By far the best comic based movie ever.
That was my feeling after seeing the credits roll. Great movie, 9.5/10 for sure, but Marv was the best damn thing about the movie. I thought he deserved more screen time than the other two. His story was by far the most entertaining and displayed the best visuals.
Great movie all around though.
Excellent acting by everyone (especially Marv, Ellijah Wood, and Bruce Willis).
By far the best comic based movie ever.
Ash Housewares
The Mountain Jew
of the reactions to this movie the ones that perplex me the most are those regarding Elijah Wood
he didn't do a whole lot, and cannibals aren't that freaky, what was it that people found compelling about his performance? Sure he did an excellent job but it didn't leave much of an impression on me, not like Rourke's performance. Not trying to be confrontational, just curious.
he didn't do a whole lot, and cannibals aren't that freaky, what was it that people found compelling about his performance? Sure he did an excellent job but it didn't leave much of an impression on me, not like Rourke's performance. Not trying to be confrontational, just curious.
Foreign Jackass
Member
Edelstein gave it a raving review on slate.com. Damn, I really have to see this movie.
Foreign Jackass
Member
Watch Croupier, and Closer. He's an hell of an actor.whytemyke said:
enjoy bell woods
Banned
That smile, the fact that he's a mute, his face, and his glowing eyes.Ash Housewares said:
BigGreenMat
Member
Foreign Jackass said:
Good to see I am not the only one who has seen Croupier. Clive Owen is an awesome actor and a perfect choice for a noir flick. Also you might want to check out the 'semi' sequel to Croupier, I'll Sleep When I'm Dead.
CajoleJuice
Member
Where did you read that Matlock???
Holy shit, that would be fucking amazing.
Holy shit, that would be fucking amazing.
It was so bad We actually walked about 40 minutes in, just after
. The graphics and presentation was interesting, I really like the intro with Josh Harnett, but after that, it got so boring. I understand that it's some sort of take on film noir, but god damn it was stale. Last time I felt like I was raped out of my money was when we went to see Scary Movie 1 and Takeshi Miike's Phone.
It just wasnt interesting to me at all. I never read the comic books, and I already had low expectations from the movie. I'm sure its faithful to the original material, but it REALLY didnt have any appeal to me, personally.
Benicio del Toro started talking in the car
It just wasnt interesting to me at all. I never read the comic books, and I already had low expectations from the movie. I'm sure its faithful to the original material, but it REALLY didnt have any appeal to me, personally.
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