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[GasProblem]

Most gay porn is pretty bad too.

 

[Devolution]

I don't watch enough porn to comment on what they are or aren't doing. I just always find it lulzy when that's all a dude knows, and judges women based on those standards.

 

[electroshockwave]

I can see the appeal in some aspects of rough porn but sometimes it just goes too far and becomes off-putting. Face fucking is something I don't understand the appeal of. And when it can be really rough sometimes it's hard to tell between "this girl is putting on a performance for the type of audience it appeals to" and "Fuck, she's really being brutalised and not enjoying this." The most recent example I've seen is one with Rocco and Bobbi Starr where he was FHUTA while pushing her head down a toilet and pressing the lid down on her. Seriously, why the fuck would you do that?

The guy needs to shut the fuck up in porn.

SHUT UP AND STOP PANNING THE CAMERA ON HIM

STOP MAKING FACES

AND GRUNTING

Fuck sake,

This x 1000.

 

[wenis]

I'm picky about my porn...

hmmm, but I also recognize that everyone is an adult and they make their own decisions.


Also amateur porn is terrible. Nothing worse than overly hairy dudes climbing onto a chick and wriggling like a worm for 15 minutes to spurt out an empty ketchup bottles worth of spunk on their ladies neckline.

 

[wonderkins]

This may mark me as a woosy, but most (not all) porn would be improved tremendously if it allowed for affection between the participants. Don't need 3 hours of romance, but an evident fondness would be nice. A guy railing a moaning chick for an hour (or dude -> dude, chick -> dude, or chick -> chick, depending on your persuasion or mood) doesn't really stoke the fire. It all becomes interchangeable.

 

[PjotrStroganov]

The best part, is the tease part when an actress shows her "assets".

The Japanese have created a whole sub-genre for that. They excel at it. And then there is the HC stuff......

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

This may mark me as a woosy, but most (not all) porn would be improved tremendously if it allowed for affection between the participants. Don't need 3 hours of romance, but an evident fondness would be nice. A guy railing a moaning chick for an hour (or dude -> dude, chick -> dude, or chick -> chick, depending on your persuasion or mood) doesn't really stoke the fire. It all becomes interchangeable.

You woosy!

 

[wonderkins]

You woosy!

lol. <hangs head in shame>

 

[tino]

So this guy has never heard of X Art.

 

[The Technomancer]

This may mark me as a woosy, but most (not all) porn would be improved tremendously if it allowed for affection between the participants. Don't need 3 hours of romance, but an evident fondness would be nice. A guy railing a moaning chick for an hour (or dude -> dude, chick -> dude, or chick -> chick, depending on your persuasion or mood) doesn't really stoke the fire. It all becomes interchangeable.

Because that's not risque anymore, that's not, as my professor would put it, "grotesque"

 

[DominoKid]

that's the point of porn.

it isnt meant to be anything near an accurate representation of sex.

it's pure visceral appeal. thats why the women scream louder, the dudes fuck harder and both do crazier and crazier shit than what we probably do in our bedrooms.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

bullshit
who the hell skips to the cumshot?
that shit is awful to look at

Aren't you in any way curious to see how the movie ends?

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

lol. <hangs head in shame>

I actually agree with you. I like to see the people at least smiling and looking like they enjoy each other.

 

[NaughtyCalibur]

There's quite a bit of porn out there with women degrading men as well. Just sayin'.

Especially interracial stuff. It can get pretty hard to watch at times when women are screaming out the n-word in the most offensive way while being railed.

 

[wonderkins]

I actually agree with you. I like to see the people at least smiling and looking like they enjoy each other.

Yeah. Some of it seems two steps away from complete indifference. As if you can hear them thinking of their shopping list for later in the day.

How titillating.

 

[Funky Papa]

The thing that I cannot stomach about porn these days is how juvenile most of it is. I greatly enjoy the female form and everything that comes with it; the legs and they way they move during the act, they eye contact, the arching backs... everything. Producers and directors, however, seem to have some kind of teenage fixation with showing a gash getting filled and nothing else.



Having said that, one of the goals of my life is banging a chick that is at least as gloriously filthy as Audrey Hollander. One day, one day...

 

[DominoKid]

There's quite a bit of porn out there with women degrading men as well. Just sayin'.

Especially interracial stuff. It can get pretty hard to watch at times when women are screaming out the n-word in the most offensive way while being railed.

Not nearly as awkward as when it happens in real life. but when you're balls deep its hard to care at the moment.

 

[a Master Ninja]

Way too much of porn is predatory in nature. That's the premise of almost all that "reality" porn. Even if the women are usually in on it, the appeal seems to be that young, naive women are being coerced into it by a persistent, older, "crafty" man.

it's pure visceral appeal. thats why the women scream louder, the dudes fuck harder and both do crazier and crazier shit than what we probably do in our bedrooms.

I don't think enough young men realize this and think what porn shows is "normal" sex.

I do think we can thank porn for the mainstream acceptance of anal sex between heterosexual couples, much to the chagrin of many women I'm sure.

 

[Timedog]

Not nearly as awkward as when it happens in real life. but when you're balls deep its hard to care at the moment.

Hahaha, I've told women that I've slept with to call me the N word. Not during sex or in the bedroom. And of course I get to call them a terrible name back.

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

Probably some fucked up shit being watched.

I like it when the chick talks a bit at the beginning, or pretends she is a singer/photographer or something, then the banging happens, nuts are buss, then the woman talks a bit more at the end and thats it

Add in a good nut drinking scene, some DP, a lil ass spanking and I'm aight

 

[esquire]

I don't read Slate anymore and the writing style of this article reminded me why but interesting article nonetheless. I find I can't really enjoy porn because I find it degrading (especially to women) and shockingly racist. This is a tricky thing to discuss because I always feel like anytime this is brought up the argument against porn is always conflated with the religious argument against porn despite the fact that it's not where I'm coming from. I don't know. When I was younger (and mostly unattached) I never thought about it or cared but now I question it and find that I just don't enjoy it. I don't know if the fact that I was once okay with it makes me a hypocrite now for saying this but that's the way I feel about it.

 

[demosthenes]

X-Art

Learn it, love it.

Quoted again for truth.

 

[AquaticSquirrel]

It's true there is allot of fucked up porn out there, and most of it is quite degrading to women in some really messed up ways.

Article makes some good points but the title is misleading, I thought it was going to be about terrible angles, lighting etc....

Anyway as I said some good points in the article, however the author seems to make some big leaps without really backing it up with evidence mostly just assumptions and sometimes the agenda of the author is painfully clear when interpreting certain events which makes it harder to read than it should be.

I'm not sure if you can attribute everything negative about portrayal of women in porn to just these 4 men, although they certainly contributed.

I'm not really sure what my point is exactly....more a stream of consciousness really of what I thought when reading the article.

 

[The Elite]

X-Art

Learn it, love it.

This.

I did date a girl who liked to be peed on. I couldn't bring myself to do it. I felt like I'd be crossing a line.

 

[Bay Maximus]

Not nearly as awkward as when it happens in real life. but when you're balls deep its hard to care at the moment.

That's cool and all, but if it wasn't previously agreed upon (which it wouldn't be in my case), we'd have some pretty big fucking problems.

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What is an X-Art?

 

[a Master Ninja]

What is an X-Art?

Pornography that I wouldn't be embarrassed to show my girlfriend.

 

[Tambini]

who the fuck watches "pro" porn anymore? 99% of people go on streaming websites and watch amateur stuff.

I know because of statistics that I just made up.

I am the 1%

 

[Sixfortyfive]

I also wonder this. And half the time this stuff is in the top viewed sections on some of these sites. If I ever click some of that I just think the same thing you said. Who the hell likes some of this stuff. It's strange because even in conversations with friends that style and those traits never come up as good or desirable or anything. Those are exclusively bad things. If any of those women with the leathery skin and tattoos and fake boobs and way too much makeup were walking around in real life they'd get a universal "eww" from every single guy I know. So who the hell is watching these things!?

SmokeyDave

 

[Uchip]

Aren't you in any way curious to see how the movie ends?

used to be funny to see how the terrible scripted story ends
that was 10 years ago

 

[Timedog]

I just realized that I think tattoos on a girl (full sleeves YES PLEASE) are way hotter in real life than in pictures/video/porn. What does this mean???

 

[Esch]

X-Art

Learn it, love it.

wow, this site is great. thank you!

 

[soultron]

X-Art

Learn it, love it.

Annnnd /thread.

 

[TxdoHawk]

That's why I mostly watch the amateur stuff, just so much more enjoyable and now that the average person has started getting HD cams it's even better.

Yup. Two people who genuinely want each other >>>>>>>>> "actresses" and "actors" who aren't interested in making it look real and/or enjoyable, just getting it over with so they can collect the check and go home.

 

[Bay Maximus]

Pornography that I wouldn't be embarrassed to show my girlfriend.

But isn't 'tasteful' porn just as embarrassing as 'regular' porn? I mean, I doubt your girlfriend would look at your porn and say, "wow, this is really tasteful porn Master Ninja. Put it next to King Kong and The Illusionist on my shelf." Although I could be wrong. (Disclaimer: I haven't actually been to the site nor plan to go, so I could have the complete wrong idea about the X-Art thing)
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While it may not be right, I don't think I could fully trust someone that watches rape, torture etc. pr0n. To each their own, but get out of my house.

 

[eXistor]

I never like the "pro" stuff anyway, just seems faked and unrealistic. All amateur for me thank you.

 

[gutter_trash]

watch Andrew Blake movies if you want ascetically beautiful girls and cameras and sets and ligthing

 

[Takuan]

I take what I can find quickly searching for free, to some extent. I'm certainly not gonna pay, ever. I'm not saying I don't watch that kind of porn ever, but I'll say this:

The guys who are really, really into watching women be degraded heavily, the ones that get off on that, I highly doubt they are pleasing their women as much as they could be. Sex is best when it's a truly shared experience on all levels. It's best for both parties that way. And that doesn't mean it has to be intimate in any way other than a sexual way. One night stands are sweet. But whether it's with someone you love or someone you're just physically attracted to, it is, or it should be at least, about coming to a unique understanding of another person.

Agree completely, and I'm definitely a bit of a misogynist or at least hold some misogynistic views.

 

[akira28]

I hate degrading porn like the UnNatural series or others. Like seeing a hot girl, and then the guy makes her suck his toes or lick his bum or something like that or he chokes her, I want to throw him out of a window for ruining my experience with that shit. Who enjoys that? What the fuck is wrong with you? Goddamnit.

Also they should just put a mosaic block over the guys face, if not entire body. And camera people need to stop including shots of the guys ass during 'hardcore' shots. In fact you can do away with many of the angles and how about just showing us the woman? We see the guy's face more than we do the woman's and I'm wondering is this actually gay porn about straight men?

And yes, thank god the 80s is over. The age of high heels is ended. Long live the high heeled strappy sandal and the platform stripper shoe. And also the age of fetish.

 

[Devolution]

Yup. Two people who genuinely want each other >>>>>>>>> "actresses" and "actors" who aren't interested in making it look real and/or enjoyable, just getting it over with so they can collect the check and go home.

This explains why I enjoy sex scenes in movies more than just two people straight up fuckin'. That passion.

 

[titiklabingapat]

I like Euro porn for this very reason. Plus they also focus on the guy, which is a huge boner...err, I mean bonus!

 

[Bleepey]

This.

I did date a girl who liked to be peed on. I couldn't bring myself to do it. I felt like I'd be crossing a line.

The only time i have ever felt like i was doing some pornstar shit was when i gave a girl a facial then followed my a pearl necklace. Peeing, however is just gonna make a mess.

 

[Takuan]

I hate degrading porn like the UnNatural series or others. Like seeing a hot girl, and then the guy makes her suck his toes or lick his bum or something like that or he chokes her, I want to throw him out of a window for ruining my experience with that shit. Who enjoys that? What the fuck is wrong with you? Goddamnit.

Also they should just put a mosaic block over the guys face, if not entire body. And camera people need to stop including shots of the guys ass during 'hardcore' shots. In fact you can do away with many of the angles and how about just showing us the woman? We see the guy's face more than we do the woman's and I'm wondering is this actually gay porn about straight men?

And yes, thank god the 80s is over. The age of high heels is ended. Long live the high heeled strappy sandal and the platform stripper shoe. And also the age of fetish.

I dunno, a lot of "regular" porn is pretty degrading. The dudes basically twist the chicks into pretzels and do their best to ruin a girl's lower parts for other men. It's rare that the chick looks like she's genuinely into it.

 

[gblues]

X-Art

Learn it, love it.

Bleh. Shitty music and horrible editing. At least they're trying, but even a first-year film student can do better.

 

[akira28]

I blame the meat-market aspect of porn production. I always felt like I could do it better, but then again I'm not sure I'd want to be associated with something like that later in life.

Only film real sex scenes. No forced action, real couples, no time constraints so we can maximize the visual results, etc. Give lots of niche/fetish shoutouts. You could form a "good porn" philosophy and generate video. But how to get past distribution, I couldn't answer. Just making a website isn't enough to get the word out, and then there's the whole "free porn" thing eating your lunch too.

I dunno, a lot of "regular" porn is pretty degrading. The dudes basically twist the chicks into pretzels and do their best to ruin a girl's lower parts for other men. It's rare that the chick looks like she's genuinely into it.

Degradation is becoming one of the norms. Or at least more normal than before. Two guys holding a girl down, etc. I mean..its like they don't even put effort into it. Get out a camera and make a human sandwich where you abuse the meat. No thanks. They just get some poor girl who really wants to make it, and proceed to...no. Take care of your people and you will thrive. I want to make good karma porn.

 

[Funky Papa]

Bleh. Shitty music and horrible editing. At least they're trying, but even a first-year film student can do better.

I'm not looking for stellar cinematography, just some stunningly beautiful chick getting fucked proper.

 

[whitehawk]

X-Art

Learn it, love it.

I came here to post this. It's the only porn I would consider paying for.

 

[Takuan]

I'm not looking for stellar cinematography, just some stunningly beautiful chick getting fucked proper.

Stunningly beautiful is a stretch, but yeah, I imagine most guys just wanna nut and be done with it. I mean, I don't really have a problem with porn because it's a perfectly fine means to an end, but there's merit in the notion that it's generally degrading to women.

There's no porn I would pay for, period.

 

[Funky Papa]

Stunningly beautiful is a stretch, but yeah, I imagine most guys just wanna nut and be done with it. I mean, I don't really have a problem with porn because it's a perfectly fine means to an end, but there's merit in the notion that it's generally degrading to women.

Well, I was talking about X-Art. Their ladies certainly fit that description (although I wouldn't mind if a couple of them ate something else than dicks).

 

[akira28]

It doesn't have to be Shakespeare. But it should be well above the level of a bathroom stall limerick. I don't mean plotwise. The X-art stuff is nice, but porn overkill. Just make it tasteful, you don't necessarily have to make it look like an art museum piece.

 

[Takuan]

Well, I was talking about X-Art. Their ladies certainly fit that description (although I wouldn't mind if a couple of them ate something else than dicks).

Oh, that's true. Some model-looking females on that site, for sure.