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Smallville premiered 15 years ago today
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Hippo_PRIME
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Had a lot of fun with this show. I remember always being hooked on what could happen next, being disappointed with the payoff, and then getting hooked all over again. And that Chloe crush! Clark messed up big time missing the Chloe-Boat.
EdwardTivrusky
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I remember liking the show for the first few seasons and then kind of drifting away. I think it was when Lois seemed to become the focus of the show and she and Lex morphed to being what was needed for the episode rather than consistent characters. It was years ago and i haven't been back since. Some other thoughts i had reading the thread...
Lois & Clark was HUGE, i'd forgotten how big that blew up for a while. Another one i watched at first and then just dipped into episodes later on. It was big over here in the UK at least.
Also i need to rewatch Dark Angel and Birds of Prey. If only to see if they hold up now-a-days.
Lois & Clark was HUGE, i'd forgotten how big that blew up for a while. Another one i watched at first and then just dipped into episodes later on. It was big over here in the UK at least.
Also i need to rewatch Dark Angel and Birds of Prey. If only to see if they hold up now-a-days.
Lana Lang was a one-note character in the first couple seasons, which is fine, but Kristin Kreuk was responsible for around 50% of the show's ratings, so the writers needed to find "excuses" to keep her around (as opposed to say, having a clear idea of what the show should be and being willing to quit while you're ahead), which was impossible given her established character, the lack of writing talent, and the show's ultimate direction of being a prequel and moving towards becoming Superman.
Professor Beef
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Shame. Lana had more character in her limited appearances in the animated series than in 10 seasons of Smallville.
MegaManTrigger
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As a kid, I never liked this show. I came into it expecting Clark Kent learning how to be Superman before Superman was a thing, and then got Teenage Drama Bullshit: The Show.
Promptly dropped after the first few episodes.
Promptly dropped after the first few episodes.
PhantomZone
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First 3 seasons were great
Season 4 was a drag and it almost made me quit the show.
Renewed interest with seasons 5 & 6.
Fell away from the show while it was still on but caught up with seasons 7-10 as they came out on dvd each year.
Season 4 was a drag and it almost made me quit the show.
Renewed interest with seasons 5 & 6.
Fell away from the show while it was still on but caught up with seasons 7-10 as they came out on dvd each year.
BlackLagoon
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Hmm, yeah, I remember being annoyed by the episode where Lex gets hauled of to an insane asylum, and Clark has the opportunity to save him but it means revealing his powers. I was actually rather annoyed that he didn't, I thought Lex deserved to be saved and that he was such a strong part of the show the writers should have had the courage to go their own way with it. Instead he not only ditches Lex, the show promptly establishes that rather than an agonizing betrayal of his childhood friend, this was a righteous and moral action because Luthors = evil. Ugh.
Watched it all and yes it's love and hate but don't regret it one bit. How great were Lionel, Lex and Lois. Even the rest were mostly good but there was some wtf moments and rough acting. Welling was never too convincing but had some presence. Lana, yeah what a crush and shoehorned in later seasons but obvious why, never found her terribly grating though. Chloe got a bit annoying later on and Pete was always awful. Remember your sunglasses for Aquamans teeth.
lmao. mos def a joke based on the fact that the band appeared singing the song in an episode of an early season, and for a second it looked like it was lex singing because the camera panned over the bald singer. scene was memorable and legit hilarious.
Soodanim
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The best moments of the show are when people found out Clark's secret, moments with Lex and/or Lionel, and the cameos from other people with powers like when Flash outran Clark. As time went on those moments got fewer and farther between. We also deserved at least a full episode of Clark in the suit, but apparently Tom Welling didn't ever want to be in the suit so we got distant CGI.
Also: Doomsday. What a horrible villain they made that out to be.
Also: Doomsday. What a horrible villain they made that out to be.
Wow, I've seen every episode of Smallville but nearly all of them surprised me. Especially the Vampire Diaries brothers.
Worse than Thor 2?
Vastly worse. Even though I can't remember anything about Thor 2 except the commercials, that allows me to remember that the commercials themselves did not contain some of the most atrocious dialog ever typed.
I disagree, but OK. Opinions and stuff. I still like you.
Anyway, the question about Thor 2 was a joke.
Crying at this post and the confused replies hahahahaha
Season 8 I believe is a great example of how much Lana was dragging down the show. You can see what the show is like with and without her in a significant way. That season opens with her being gone, the introduction of Tess and a good 10 or more episodes pass before she shows up for a small arc and causes another downward spiral. Prior to her showing up again the season was really good from what I remember. Then she leaves again and from that point on until the series finale in season 10 the show is pretty much firing on all cylinders. Ignore the Darkseid cloud and bad Doomsday costume though but I'll forgive that for the rest being pretty damn good.
She should have been written out of the show much sooner. It's why I refer to seasons 5 to 7 as the dark times of the series. There is more bad then good there and a large part of it is because of Lana and how she's connected to different things. In addition to budgets being slashed and writer strikes. The show was far to ambitions of what it could afford at a times.
That said I love the show overall and taken as a whole there are far more positives then negatives by a wide margin. Seasons 9 and 10 are still some of my top favorite comic book material on TV.
I don't even blame Lana's actress either. It's just that the writers wanted the character to be more important then she had any right to be and her inclusion was forced a lot of times in stories that simply shouldn't have been done or shouldn't even have included her.
LoneliestGhost
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Watched the final season a couple of years ago. Pretty enjoyable.
That last fight tho, pretty trash
ClivePwned
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I'd really like to see this at some point but it's on any streaming services I have (UK Netflix and Amazon). It sounds like it would be a good show to have playing on the ipad while playing a grindy open-world game.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Even though it was full of CW cheese, it is still the best overall mainstream comic book show ever created. To bad or took so long to get to Hulu or Netflix. Could have been huge 5 years ago!!!
Razgriz-Specter
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I definitely don't agree with that but without it there is no way we get the current batch of DCTV that I consider far better(besides maybe Legends and current Arrow.).
Honestly Smallville feels like the really early prototype for what we got these days.
They also noticed people stayed with Smallville through the dumbest shit so that gave them confidence in allowing full on "goofy and silly" stuff like Grodd and such.
SirRattleBalls
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Smallville really kicked the doors down on the Superhero Tv show genre. I remember watching the flash episode with Bart Allen and i honestly thought way back then that the flash needed his own tv show.
I loved it for the Luthors especially Lionel who was boss.
's death shocked little me who knew only Superman TAS. Tom Welling is the definitive Clark Kent to me. Erica Durance was meh and not worthy of Teri Hatcher. I stopped watching when they went overboard with all the witch shit. Chloe was over equipped with her Alienware laptop, is this how American high schools proceed? They give away overpriced computers to their students? This shit bugged me back then.
I had no idea Thad was in it. I knew that black guy who plays the black best friend in BMS was playing also in it with the same role but not Alan Ritchson. I guess Aquaman popped up after I stopped watching...
For all its faults and cheesiness, I would lie if I said Smallville was a bad show.
Johnathan
I had no idea Thad was in it. I knew that black guy who plays the black best friend in BMS was playing also in it with the same role but not Alan Ritchson. I guess Aquaman popped up after I stopped watching...
For all its faults and cheesiness, I would lie if I said Smallville was a bad show.
kunonabi
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Whenever I rewatch season 8 I always skip those Lana episodes. Her writing really was terrible and really derailed so much of the show.
As of her Season 8 exit, Lana:
was as cunning and ruthless as the Luthors
had martial arts skills on par or better than the Green Arrow
had more advanced computer skills than Chloe
had super powers that are comparable to Clark with out the Kyrptonite weakness
Couple that with her apparently being the single most beautiful woman on the planet and you get a character that pretty much makes the entire rest of the cast pointless much like Ray did in episode VII.
In all honesty she was the Poochie of the show.
Memento Mori
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Lex was rendered unconscious 51 times in total apparently.
Professor Beef
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I was gonna debate this line, but then I remembered that I asked myself "where's Lana" a couple of times during her absence.
So...bravo!
I mean the whole point was that this wasn't a show about Superman, it was a show about Clark Kent.
Its why their personalities are so different. Tom Welling as Clark isn't nearly as charismatic, charming or the natural leader he would later become as Superman because the goal is how he got there.
...and the show honestly failed to answer that question but whatever. I still liked it *crosses arms*
I remember being so hyped for this episode and wishing he would become a regular like Ollie.
Don't even try to compare Ray from Star Wars to Lana Lang.
Lana Lang was given every powerup without earning it because reasons. She literally became on par with Clark and then FINALLY fucks off after the wedding. Like why? She's so goddamn perfect I'm sure she would have found a way to stay with Clark.
God, fuck lana. Even my 60 year old mother who adores Smallville has been an avid Lana hater since S1.
She should have just stayed away after season 1. The problem wasn't even the character or actress it was the writers trying to make her important at literally every turn.
KoroEunectes
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Pretty sure this is repeated in Supergirl. And if it wasn't then damn CW you missed out on a cool throwback.
But like the rest of Supergirl I honestly can't remember much about that crossover episode other than how cute they were talking about calories.
But for real we all agree that green arrow was overrated af in that show right? Flash was so, so, SO much better.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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such a great series
I remember picking this up because X-Files had ended and I needed something else to watch. I came for superman, stayed for Kreuk. Her character did become pretty damn annoying eventually. I stopped watching this the second to last season, mostly because I was too busy with school at that time.
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