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[borghe]

Oh you're one of those. :lol

Protip: film studios don't get 100% of the gross. They get FAR LESS than that.

actually, while some of this is technically, true, you are overstating. In most cases, films get a lion share of ticket sales for the first 2 or so week. It's not 100%, but it's damn close. after that things start to taper off, but a movie really has to go at least 4 weeks usually for the theater to start seeing over half of the boxoffice. of course the agreements change with every theater chain, but I know for a fact that Marcus Theatres, one of the largest chains in the northern midwest, sees practically nothing within the first two weeks on most movies. They rely almost entirely on concession sales and older releases to subsidize the new movie costs. If SOAP agreements are similar, than chances are the theaters will make hardly anything off of the movie itself as the vast majority will go to the studios and the film will fall off fast enough that it won't stick in theaters long enough to make the screens any money.

and for the record, it's too bad beerfest performed so low. I really enjoyed it. stupid and funny. at least it was tons better than club dread, even if it wasn't quite as good as super troopers.

edit - holy crap, Jay Chandrasekhar directed a bunch of Arrested Development episodes as well?? Everything is starting to make a whole lot more sense.

 

[Leon]

Wouldn't "Bomb on a plane" have made a cleverer thread title?

 

[jett]

actually, while some of this is technically, true, you are overstating. In most cases, films get a lion share of ticket sales for the first 2 or so week. It's not 100%, but it's damn close. after that things start to taper off, but a movie really has to go at least 4 weeks usually for the theater to start seeing over half of the boxoffice. of course the agreements change with every theater chain, but I know for a fact that Marcus Theatres, one of the largest chains in the northern midwest, sees practically nothing within the first two weeks on most movies. They rely almost entirely on concession sales and older releases to subsidize the new movie costs. If SOAP agreements are similar, than chances are the theaters will make hardly anything off of the movie itself as the vast majority will go to the studios and the film will fall off fast enough that it won't stick in theaters long enough to make the screens any money.

True to a certain extent. Obviously, it varies from chain to chain, but the average opening weekend intake number I've read is around 75-80%. Average total about 45%. And precisely because of what you just said a ****load of theaters will drop this bitch come next weekend.

I'm still pretty sure that SOAP won't make a profit at the box office.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

edit - holy crap, Jay Chandrasekhar directed a bunch of Arrested Development episodes as well?? Everything is starting to make a whole lot more sense.

Yep. (DVD TOMORROW)

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Agreed. It isn't total shit, but does miss the mark, IMO, on both straightforward entertainment and campy fun. It was just a stupid movie.

Thank God. I was going on about how the film failed to do anything interesting at all with an awesome concept back in the original thread but not a damn person agreed and someone accused me of raping my mother and wanted me to die in a gutter. The movie was too bad to be good and to good to be bad.

 

[Lord Error]

Correct. It makes no sense.

Of course it makes sense - you are surrounded with people (possibly your friends) and you share the excitement with them. I'd say that's about as important and natural, if not more so, than cheering for the band/sports team itself.

It goes the other way too. If you find out that someone dear to you died - you probably will cry, even though the deceased, or his family, can't see you showing your emotional support. By your logic, that makes no sense either, but I think it's a normal thing to do.

Or when your computer crashes, and you lose hours of your work, you probably curse loudly at yourself or at the computer, even though there's noone there that can hear you. You don't just calmly wait for the restart and keep working from scratch like nothing happened, now do you?

 

[borghe]

Yep. (DVD TOMORROW)

ironically looking through IMDB he also did last year's Dukes of Hazzard. Not only that but over half of broken lizard starred in the movie as well. I have been adament about staying away from the movie, but with credentials like that I may have to check it out now. is it coming to hbo/sho anytime soon?

 

[Prospero]

With respect to the subject of crowd participation in movies/bars/whatever, there are two differences to keep in mind: the difference between voluntary, persistent speech, and involuntary vocalizations that are almost like reflexes. Cheering at a sports event or cursing when your computer crashes are one thing; singing along for every song at a concert or talking back to the screen during an entire film are something else.

I don't think anybody would reasonably dispute that it's okay to cheer in sports bars, even if it's a bit illogical. (And in both movies I went to see this weekend, the audience applauded at the end--I didn't applaud, but the applause didn't annoy me.) On the other hand, one reason that I almost never go to arena rock concerts anymore is that if I'm paying $80-$100+ to hear someone sing, I want to hear the person I'm paying for, not the guy in the seat next to me who's caterwauling the wrong words off-key while dancing drunkenly on his chair. Jazz and classical concerts have spoiled me for that kind of thing. Maybe others prefer it--to each his own.

One of several reasons that I didn't see Snakes on a Plane is because New Line seemed to be aggressively pitching it as a film where the audience needed to bring its own entertainment along to make it worthwhile. I don't begrudge anyone else the opportunity to see that kind of movie, but again, to each his own.

I think there's also a US/UK cultural difference here, too. Last month I watched the Pink Floyd Pulse DVD, and was struck to see the audience for the show (at Earl's Court) sitting politely in their chairs through the entire show, applauding only between songs, the way that Americans behave at classical concerts. Restrained? Definitely, but at the same time you can see how it'd be nice to see a band like PF with an audience like that.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

ironically looking through IMDB he also did last year's Dukes of Hazzard. Not only that but over half of broken lizard starred in the movie as well. I have been adament about staying away from the movie, but with credentials like that I may have to check it out now. is it coming to hbo/sho anytime soon?

Pretty soon, I'd imagine. I remember seeing an interview with him and Knox and SMS and he said the only rule he had when directing the film was "If the car isn't in the air, there's something wrong. The car should be in midair for as much of the movie as humanly possible."

 

[AntoneM]

You must be going to some really crap theaters, because none of the ones where I live are like that.

But seriously... for a movie like this, you WANT a crowd like that. It's called having fun. You people that call that annoying are probably the same people who go to Rocky Horror and get pissy when people talk along with the movie.

whooooooosh

that's sarcasm flying over your head.

 

[PantherLotus]

With respect to the subject of crowd participation in movies/bars/whatever, there are two differences to keep in mind: the difference between voluntary, persistent speech, and involuntary vocalizations that are almost like reflexes. Cheering at a sports event or cursing when your computer crashes are one thing; singing along for every song at a concert or talking back to the screen during an entire film are something else.

I don't think anybody would reasonably dispute that it's okay to cheer in sports bars, even if it's a bit illogical. (And in both movies I went to see this weekend, the audience applauded at the end--I didn't applaud, but the applause didn't annoy me.) On the other hand, one reason that I almost never go to arena rock concerts anymore is that if I'm paying $80-$100+ to hear someone sing, I want to hear the person I'm paying for, not the guy in the seat next to me who's caterwauling the wrong words off-key while dancing drunkenly on his chair. Jazz and classical concerts have spoiled me for that kind of thing. Maybe others prefer it--to each his own.

One of several reasons that I didn't see Snakes on a Plane is because New Line seemed to be aggressively pitching it as a film where the audience needed to bring its own entertainment along to make it worthwhile. I don't begrudge anyone else the opportunity to see that kind of movie, but again, to each his own.

I think there's also a US/UK cultural difference here, too. Last month I watched the Pink Floyd Pulse DVD, and was struck to see the audience for the show (at Earl's Court) sitting politely in their chairs through the entire show, applauding only between songs, the way that Americans behave at classical concerts. Restrained? Definitely, but at the same time you can see how it'd be nice to see a band like PF with an audience like that.

You haven't been to a real concert if you're able to hear anybody outside of 1 foot. Singing along adds to the din. Schmuck!

Hell, I'd venture to say that you had never really been to an arena rock concert at all.

 

[mollipen]

whooooooosh

that's sarcasm flying over your head.

I hear people at the time (seriously) bitch and moan that all theaters are like this, so it was a perfectly believable statement.

 

[Stench]

You haven't been to a real concert if you're able to hear anybody outside of 1 foot. Singing along adds to the din. Schmuck!

Hell, I'd venture to say that you had never really been to an arena rock concert at all.

Yeah, totally. If you can still hear yourself talk during an arena concert, then there's a problem.

 

[Archer]

hahaha snakes on a nipple and snakes on a dick