So i ordered a 5060ti 16GB. Feel free to roast.

Indie/Early Access games. If the game is any good, the publisher will insist on putting it on at least Switch once it's completed.
Yeah insignificant stuff. The last big pc exclusive, as far as I am aware of, was Crysis back then. I don't remember of any other releases like that. So if you are into all the small stuff, then good for you I guess.
 
I don't want to sound ignorant, but any recent significant examples other than all the furry and gae stuff?
Half Life Alyx is a big one, strategy games usually release on PC first and have console versions later, such as Baldur's Gate 3, Crusader Kings III etc. Simulator games are mainly released on PC too, especially great if you're into racing sims.

Yeah insignificant stuff. The last big pc exclusive, as far as I am aware of, was Crysis back then. I don't remember of any other releases like that. So if you are into all the small stuff, then good for you I guess.
Ah you're just a troll.
 
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Even though i said i would never buy this card, i took the plunge.

Found one in my country for €470, which is a nice price drop from the €530 it cost a few weeks ago. It's still too expensive for a rebranded 5050 card but because a friend of mine can buy it cheaper by adding it to his company expenses, the price i'm asked to pay is €380. Which i think it's fair. I also just sold my 3060 12GB for €200 so the final toll for me is €180.

For just €180 out of my pocket i'm getting about 30-40% better performance compared to the 3060 and an additional 4GB of VRAM, along with other small AI niceties. That performance bump seems enough to be able to lock all modern games at 60fps (1080p) since the 3060 was struggling with some and i had to lock them at 40fps. The only issue is the removal of Physx but the only game affected in my case is going to be Alice: Madness Returns. I don't have any other game that uses 32bit Physx.

I know it's not a great card but in my situation i don't think i could do any better. I don't like the Intel cards because of their bad legacy support and AMD doesn't have DLSS, which is something i would miss after the 3060. So i feel this was the best deal for me without breaking the bank but maybe PC GAF disagrees?
That's like having a Peter North long dick (16GB VRAM) with the girth of a pencil.

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Your PC will laugh at you. 😐
 
Half Life Alyx is a big one, strategy games usually release on PC first and have console versions later, such as Baldur's Gate 3, Crusader Kings III etc. Simulator games are mainly released on PC too, especially great if you're into racing sims.
Also, some games are just more playable on PC using a KB/Mouse. The recent System Shock 2 remaster is also playable with a gamepad but i assume most will agree it's a KB/M game. Same with most strategy games. The mouse will always be the fastest and most precise control device.
 
Nah, I just have a different preference, that's all. If you see value in all that stuff you mentioned, better for you.
I refuse to believe someone posting on a gaming enthusiast site would write off all indies as "insignificant" so you must be trolling, at least i hope so!
 
Trust me, right now not even I hold my breath for these so called sony games. Imo they fucked up this gen. But there are enough games from other developers, that are either timed exclusives for consoles or are being delayed for pc because of whatever reason.

Other than like GTA what games outside Sony moneyhat games are console timed exclusive that PC aint getting day 1?

I don't want to sound ignorant, but any recent significant examples other than all the furry and gae stuff?

Tokyo Extreme alone.....this came outta nowhere, my Dreamcast wept when they announced it and it actually looks as good as its with licensed cars?
I didnt even know Genki was still in business......how did they fund this?

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But most Strategy games are PC first, some never even get ported to console.
A bunch of MMO never get pported.
Half Life Alyx.
Satisfactory.
Once Human.
Dwarf Fortress.
I believe Valorant only got a console release like yesterday.
Baldurs Gate 3.
GTFO - Yes thats its title.
Ready or Not - currently going through cert for console, but has been out on PC for a minute
No Rest for the Wicked - from the makers of Ori.
Hades 2 is currently PC only, console port obviously in the pipeline.
Body Cam.
Tarkov- I dont think even has a console release on the horizon right now
Hunt Showdown was PC first.


I could probably list more if I sit and think about it.
 
Roast you for what?

It's the 16 gb sku and it's a decent card, although overpriced. Should not be more than $350, like the 9060 XT.

Enjoy the card and try getting a 1440p 165hz / 240 Hz display if you can.
 
Do it. Worth the upgrade, particularly if it's OLED or even IPS. You won't go back to 1080p. Yes, resolution also matters, but not the only one.



12400f or K? DDR4 or DDR5 RAM?
Theres no 12400k (unless hes using an exploit for a pseudo unlocked cpu which was possible on some motherboards)
 
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12400f or K? DDR4 or DDR5 RAM?
Just 12400, no f or K.

DDR5 6000. It's probably overkill for that CPU, i know. But i may upgrade to an i7 or i9 later on (12 gen always, i'm not touching the newer ones). Ι'm also going to use the same sticks on my next build in 2 or 3 years.
 
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Roast? Your passion and your hobby. Who am I to tell you what to do with your money?

But seriously
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Any 50xx is a good, especially because of the Smooth Motion feature, it's pretty damn amazing and I use it for everything, especially emulators.
It's a driver level 2x framegen like Lossless Scaling but with DLSS level quality and visual artifacts are kept to a minimum.
Using it also activates a low latency mode which really works, it's so good you can play tight platformers like Super Mario World and still get the timing right, which is impossible with LS.
 
Do it. Worth the upgrade, particularly if it's OLED or even IPS. You won't go back to 1080p. Yes, resolution also matters, but not the only one.
12400f or K? DDR4 or DDR5 RAM?

There is no 12400K.
12400 and 12400f (no iGPU)
Just 12400, no f or K.

DDR5 6000. It's probably overkill for that CPU, i know. But i may upgrade to an i7 or i9 later on (12 gen always, i'm not touching the newer ones).
Hehe twins..

Got a 12400 and DDR5@6000 that was supposed to be a stopgap CPU till I could get a 136k or 137K but these little bastards dont know how to quit.
For gaming i still end up being GPU bound more often than not.
They boost pretty high for non-K CPUs and will ~90+ pretty much anything easy work....i dont game above 120 cuz above 90 I honestly dont feel the difference, so id rather crank up the settings and get GPU bound instead.

P.S DDR5 most certainly helps the 12400.....ive tested with DDR4 and DDR5, frametimes were much more stable and averages better with DDR5.

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If Intels nextgen chips arent great im probably gonna get a 14700 or 14900 so I dont have to upgrade my motherboard, and just glide through the generation.
You dont have to worry about them burning themselves, the latest BIOS update is super stable and has no noticeable effect on overall performance.
 
Any 50xx is a good, especially because of the Smooth Motion feature, it's pretty damn amazing and I use it for everything, especially emulators.
It's a driver level 2x framegen like Lossless Scaling but with DLSS level quality and visual artifacts are kept to a minimum.
Using it also activates a low latency mode which really works, it's so good you can play tight platformers like Super Mario World and still get the timing right, which is impossible with LS.
I'm really looking forward to try this on locked 60fps retro scrolling games.

Do games like Mario World, etc, feel smoother than 60fps this way? Maybe 4x framegen to fully utilize my 240hz monitor?

My big question is, if this works and these games look like they are running smoother, does the motion also get cleaner like a CRT? I have played some games at 240fps, like Monster Boy and the scrolling looks amazingly clear with minimal motion blur at 200+ fps. If i can achieve that with Genesis, Snes, etc games, this upgrade will worth it just for that alone.
 
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If Intels nextgen chips arent great im probably gonna get a 14700 or 14900 so I dont have to upgrade my motherboard, and just glide through the generation.
You dont have to worry about them burning themselves, the latest BIOS update is super stable and has no noticeable effect on overall performance.
Whatever my next build will be, chances are it will still use a DDR5 motherboard. So those DDR5 6000 sticks i got, which are also 64GB (2x 32), will be reused. For the next build to be a bit cheaper as i wont have to buy new RAM.
 
I'm really looking forward to try this on locked 60fps retro scrolling games.

Do games like Mario World, etc, feel smoother than 60fps this way? Maybe 4x framegen to fully utilize my 240hz monitor?

My big question is, if this works and these games look like they are running smoother, does the motion also get cleaner like a CRT? I have played some games at 240fps, like Monster Boy and the scrolling looks amazingly clear with minimal motion blur at 200+ fps. If i can achieve that with Genesis, Snes, etc games, this upgrade will worth it just for that alone.
Smooth motion is limited to 2x, but the visual quality is so much better than Lossless Scaling. It does not play nicely with Retroarch, but other emulators seem to work great. Games running on older Direct X don't work either. Like Borderlands 2/Pre-sequel.
And yes, Mario World feels oddly smooth in a good way, I tried a bunch of games on Megadrive, SNES and some Arcades. Let us know what you think.
 
I refuse to believe someone posting on a gaming enthusiast site would write off all indies as "insignificant" so you must be trolling, at least i hope so!

Imagine missing the indie renaissance of retro shooters, immersive sims, arcade racers and calling yourself a gamer while saying they are insignificant. Boggles the fucking mind.

It's the equivalent of calling yourself a movie buff while you just watched Marvel shit.


I would throw Sony and Microsoft's entire TRIPUL AAY lineup under the bus to keep playing these indies.
 
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Theres no 12400k (unless hes using an exploit for a pseudo unlocked cpu which was possible on some motherboards)

That's exactly what I meant, not K, shouldn't have said that. BCLK OC if I remember correctly.

Just 12400, no f or K.

DDR5 6000. It's probably overkill for that CPU, i know. But i may upgrade to an i7 or i9 later on (12 gen always, i'm not touching the newer ones). Ι'm also going to use the same sticks on my next build in 2 or 3 years.

That's the most famous combo. Do you have an AsRock B660 board?

Even if you don't that's ok. The difference between DDR4 (3600 MT/s) and DDR5 (6000 MT/s) sticks paired with the 12400 is considerble enough to alleviate the GPU bottleneck anything close to or over a 4070, which in your case here there's no worries as the 5060 Ti 16 gb is around 20% slower than a 4070.

Still, that's a massive upgrade.
 
I currently have a 1080p/240hz one.
Oof, that's my main emulator setup...

Hope it's just some conflicting setting or that improves in the future.

The refresh rate is great, but that screen resolution. I held on to 1080p way too long and was kicking myself for waiting so long after making the jump to 1440p. Heck see what's available, 21:9 ultrawides improve immersion.

Emulation is also interesting on 1440p. Old consoles frequently ran at 240p/480i/480p. And 240x6 = 1440 while 480x3 = 1440. So you can integer scale both resolutions to the native resolution of the monitor and vertically fill the screen. You even have enough pixels to play with subpixel shaders for various effects.
 
As long as you get the 16 it's acceptable. I can understand some people doing anything to avoid the secondary market, but FB marketplace is really the only way to game like it's 2000 again. I just used all the willpower I had to not buy a $300 6950xt this morning, so the deals are there for sure.
 
Not really a PC gamer but that price for a 16GB sounds pretty good (??)

You have all the 50xx series DLSS/frame gen features that should keep you going for a while, of course you won't be getting 4K but 1080p etc should be good with 16GB VRAM for a good number of years.
 
PS5 is a pure crap in comparison to RTX5060ti.

10 TF vs 24TF
3 generations behind in ray tracing capabilities
Worst(FSR) upscaler vs DLSS4
No frame generation vs MFGx4
And yet, majority of games don't even need this much power. Instead of showing off, I rather play games like DS2 or GTA6 as soon as they are available.
 
PS5 is a pure crap in comparison to RTX5060ti.

10 TF vs 24TF
3 generations behind in ray tracing capabilities
Worst(FSR) upscaler vs DLSS4
No frame generation vs MFGx4
Erm...?
 
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Even though i said i would never buy this card, i took the plunge.

Found one in my country for €470, which is a nice price drop from the €530 it cost a few weeks ago. It's still too expensive for a rebranded 5050 card but because a friend of mine can buy it cheaper by adding it to his company expenses, the price i'm asked to pay is €380. Which i think it's fair. I also just sold my 3060 12GB for €200 so the final toll for me is €180.

For just €180 out of my pocket i'm getting about 30-40% better performance compared to the 3060 and an additional 4GB of VRAM, along with other small AI niceties. That performance bump seems enough to be able to lock all modern games at 60fps (1080p) since the 3060 was struggling with some and i had to lock them at 40fps. The only issue is the removal of Physx but the only game affected in my case is going to be Alice: Madness Returns. I don't have any other game that uses 32bit Physx.

I know it's not a great card but in my situation i don't think i could do any better. I don't like the Intel cards because of their bad legacy support and AMD doesn't have DLSS, which is something i would miss after the 3060. So i feel this was the best deal for me without breaking the bank but maybe PC GAF disagrees?
Why would this be a 5050? It's 36 CUs(SMs in nvidia terms) just like the PS5 but it beats a 56CU PS5 Pro. People are getting silly in their desire to rename Nvidia cards to lower models.
 
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