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So, I shot some cats this weekend...
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Spike,
The funny thing about State laws is that they apply in both the city and the country.
Don't know if you're interested, but here's a list of States and their laws regarding animal cruelty -- based on where you live you can find out whether you committed a felony or a misdemeanor this weekend.
Sadly, the hypothetical charges for the animals you only injured (because of the pain and suffering) inflicted will probably be more severe than for the ones that you actually managed to kill quickly.
http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/cruelty.html
The funny thing about State laws is that they apply in both the city and the country.
Don't know if you're interested, but here's a list of States and their laws regarding animal cruelty -- based on where you live you can find out whether you committed a felony or a misdemeanor this weekend.
Sadly, the hypothetical charges for the animals you only injured (because of the pain and suffering) inflicted will probably be more severe than for the ones that you actually managed to kill quickly.
http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/cruelty.html
belgurdo said:
Most people that give a damn would be pissed at the needless death of a mouse or snake as well.
Not to mention the fact that the definition of pest widely varies. I don't imagine the cats were chewing through the walls, nibbling on electrical cable and shitting all over the pantry.
They were probably running through the bush killing birds -- which is a bad thing but not one that Spike has done anything to truly resolve with his wrong-headed slayings.
Spike Spiegel said:Paid my grandparents a visit on Saturday, and their cat problem is getting out of hand again. So I grabbed the .22 LR from its place in the closet, asked my grandfather to describe the ones he wanted to get rid of, and set out. Usually, you only get a few shots before they all disappear for the day, but I managed to kill at least one, and wound a few more.
Not the best way to spend a Saturday afternoon, I admit, but there are worse alternatives... like, working on my research paper, washing months of dirt and grime from my car, or being bored out of my skull at work.
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Why post this?
You wounded a few cats and left them to suffer? And this was population control?
You're quite the class act.
Lemurnator
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If you had the choice between homework, work, washing your car, and killing kittens. Which would you choose? Honestly.
Spike, enjoy aptly titled showtunes in hell you sick bastard.
Spike, enjoy aptly titled showtunes in hell you sick bastard.
They're probably not just loitering. Animals don't "hang around" a place just because, there's something there that they want and that's probably why they're considered pests.
And judging by how these old people wanted to shoot the problem cats, I bet they aren't willingly giving out food to the cats.
And judging by how these old people wanted to shoot the problem cats, I bet they aren't willingly giving out food to the cats.
Jim Bowie said:
So you wouldn't have a problem with any of this as long as Spike skinned and ate the cat? Besides, meat isn't necessary to sustain a healthy life. You can live off fruits and vegetables. No point in harming some innocent, methane producing cows just so you can fill your gullet.
The whole ugly animal vs pretty animal argument is tired.
It's time to get over the novelty of the idea that different animals have been domesticated for different purposes. If you want your argument to get some traction hop in a time machine, set the dial to 11,000 BC and argue with the guy who decided that a dog would make a better companion than food.
Here in the 21st Century we're talking about the humane treatment of animals -- those we keep as pets, those we eat and those, who are out of balance with the ecosystem for whatever reason.
It's time to get over the novelty of the idea that different animals have been domesticated for different purposes. If you want your argument to get some traction hop in a time machine, set the dial to 11,000 BC and argue with the guy who decided that a dog would make a better companion than food.
Here in the 21st Century we're talking about the humane treatment of animals -- those we keep as pets, those we eat and those, who are out of balance with the ecosystem for whatever reason.
Stuggernaut
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This whole thread is funny...
1) Spike posting this obvious "piss people off" thread was just stupid.
2) Killing cats, rats, snakes, whatever the pest is best left un-bragged about
3) The fact that he left wounded ones to suffer is just mean
I mean really. No pet lover wants to see someone patting themselves on the back for killing a cat, no matter how annoying it is. I can totally understand pest control, and I have seen my fair share of killings of cats & dogs when populations got too high. But you don't go around sounding all nonchalant about it in a place where people obviously love pets. The fact that you (Spike) didnt call a pound, or a pest control company, is not the issue for me. Its that you didnt even consider it by the way youre talking.
Do I think youre an asshole? No, not really.
Do I think youre mean? Yes, a little.
But hey, different people feel differently towards animals. Thats just my opinion.
And just an FYI
There are those of us that hate all forms of animal cruelty, including mouse traps and snake killing and any other form of trapping. Just because a person is offended by the killing of a cat, doesnt mean they are assuming it is some higher life form beyond pest control. Shit like this may have to be done on occasion. But people like me dont have to like it.
1) Spike posting this obvious "piss people off" thread was just stupid.
2) Killing cats, rats, snakes, whatever the pest is best left un-bragged about
3) The fact that he left wounded ones to suffer is just mean
I mean really. No pet lover wants to see someone patting themselves on the back for killing a cat, no matter how annoying it is. I can totally understand pest control, and I have seen my fair share of killings of cats & dogs when populations got too high. But you don't go around sounding all nonchalant about it in a place where people obviously love pets. The fact that you (Spike) didnt call a pound, or a pest control company, is not the issue for me. Its that you didnt even consider it by the way youre talking.
Do I think youre an asshole? No, not really.
Do I think youre mean? Yes, a little.
But hey, different people feel differently towards animals. Thats just my opinion.
And just an FYI
There are those of us that hate all forms of animal cruelty, including mouse traps and snake killing and any other form of trapping. Just because a person is offended by the killing of a cat, doesnt mean they are assuming it is some higher life form beyond pest control. Shit like this may have to be done on occasion. But people like me dont have to like it.
Claus said:
I would sort of be surprised that Spike was eating a cat. But there is certainly a difference between offing a loitering cat and killing something to eat it, would you not agree? The difference here is that killing the cat had no purpose. Killing cattle has many purposes, such as food or clothing. Spike did neither of these things.
Also, you don't need a car, a house, clothing, or money to live. Why do you deem it necessary for you to take all these things, which hurt the enviroment and abuse animals, and use them just to be comfortable?
BobbyRobby
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I suggest everyone go read up on Factory Farms. Extremely Inhumane, yet no one seems to care.
Jim Bowie said:
A car, house, clothing, and money are all conveniences. They make living easier, which is why I need them. Besides, people are hurt just as much by the impacts of producing these things as well. You don't need meat to have an easier time living.
He killed a male. That one male could impregnate every feral cat in the area easily. He may not have taken a large step in controlling the population, but I'm sure it helped.
BobbyRobby said:
Very true. It seemed like after Fast Food Nation came out that people were becoming a little more thoughtful about what they ate, but people have short memories and would rather not think about where what they eat comes from.
That said, there are some like Temple Grandin who work very hard to make death more dignified for the animals who feed us.
Claus said:
Yeah, conveniences. Having many meal options makes my life easier. I can swing by a fast food restaurant, eat a hamburger, and go on with my day.
Convenience.
You're also using after-the-fact revelations to justify the attack. Do you really think Spike flipped over the cat, found a cock, and then blew it away? Nah. He shot him, and then found out he was a male.
And if he did do the former, why wouldn't he just take it to a fucking pound?!?
:lolJim Bowie said:
Spike Spiegel: I dun seen a penis! *shoots cat*
Jimmy Bob: Naw, Spike, you gone and identerfied his tail!
Spike Spiegel: Wurt did you say?
Jimmy Bob: His tail. That wasn't his bit n' pieces. Hell, there wurnt any pieces, as a matter o' fact.
Spike Spiegel: Darnit! I thought he just really well endowed and such.
Jimmy Bob: Never you mind, Spike. BRANDINE!
Brandine: WHAAAT??
Jimmy Bob: WE'RE EATING DINNER TONIGHT
Claus said:
Does it matter if it's healthy or not? Off-topic, d00d. We're talking conveinence, remember?
Once again, he didn't make a conscious decision on, "I'm going for a particular gender." He went out back with a gun, and shot a cat. With no reason other than being there. I'm not buying that it was damaging his grandparents' property by sitting on their property being cats.
Also, how would the female cat pop out a litter of 6 with no male cats? Who came first, the chicken or the egg?
EDIT: :lol Socreges
Jim Bowie said:
Eating meat still isn't a convenience no matter how you put it. Being able to get food on the go is the convenience, not what you're eating. You can still have many meal options without having to eat meat.
His grandfather picked out the cats to be killed. Just because they are animals doesn't mean they don't play out certain gender roles. It's not hard to pick out a male from a female when you see one madly humping the other.
I was just pointing out that killing that one male wouldn't have as much impact as killing one female since there are bound to be more males in the area. 1 dead male cat or 1 dead female cat along with potential young it may have bared.
...I seriously hope this was a joke thread. I was about to go to sleep and now I fear for my pet cats' lives. My cats (and dog) are some of the best companions I've ever had. And now I feel so damn depressed after reading this thread. And those pictures with the pleas for life from cats didn't help either (even though they might've been meant as jokes). Why...just...why would you be posting about killing some cats, feral or not? If you killed feral humans, would you be posting about it here too?
How many fast food companies were based on healthy food? Health food is just recently being introduced. Without meatburgers, we wouldn't have fast food chains today. So, yeah, meat definitely is conveinent.
You have still given me no reason on why the cats had to die instead of taken to a pound. It wasn't damaging the property, and therefore no reason for it to get capped.
Otaking: If you're away from police, then it's perfectly okay to kill feral humans. Just make sure that they're loitering and not damaging your property. [/sarcasm]
You have still given me no reason on why the cats had to die instead of taken to a pound. It wasn't damaging the property, and therefore no reason for it to get capped.
Otaking: If you're away from police, then it's perfectly okay to kill feral humans. Just make sure that they're loitering and not damaging your property. [/sarcasm]
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the best way to get rid of cats is to snap their necks at birth.
ConfusingJazz
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Otaking said:
Yesh, nothing is going to happen to your cats man, calm down. Spike isn't going to hunt your cats, unless they are in the middle of his grandparent's ranch in the middle of nowhere. Then he is gonna teach em good.
ManDudeChild
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Iceman said:
I'm pretty sure Mr. Jingles was a mouse. :lol
Late Stage Marxist
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BAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolLemurnator said:
Lucky Forward
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One issue no one has brought up about these "loitering" cats is disease. These things aren't exactly getting their shots regularly, so the potential for rabies makes them more dangerous than any simple pest.
I live in a semi-rural neighborhood (lots of woods and farm fields nearby), and a few years ago one of my neighbors had a rabid cat come out of the woods and attack his little girl as she played in the backyard. He beat if off of her then shot it. I doubt that he would have a problem with the idea of a pre-emptive strike on feral cats.
I live in a semi-rural neighborhood (lots of woods and farm fields nearby), and a few years ago one of my neighbors had a rabid cat come out of the woods and attack his little girl as she played in the backyard. He beat if off of her then shot it. I doubt that he would have a problem with the idea of a pre-emptive strike on feral cats.
No idiot, I meant he should try to kill them properly. If he states he 'wounded' a few more, then how hard can it be to kill a wounded cat? I dunno, they're not really that big, if you hit them with your gun you'll probably hit something vital, right? All I mean is, he should shoot to kill.
MrAngryFace
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I think there would have been more acceptance if they were eaten for food after being shot.
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