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So TGS is this weekend!!!!
- Thread starter truffleshuffle83
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I want to go to TGS so bad now. 
But with my leg messed up, and two days of Nenkyuu already taken for this week already, that's not happening. Tell me, though, do you have to pay to get into TGS? I think I'd definitely like to go next year.
But with my leg messed up, and two days of Nenkyuu already taken for this week already, that's not happening. Tell me, though, do you have to pay to get into TGS? I think I'd definitely like to go next year.
DCharlie said:you aren't coming ? OH NOES
yeah, it's 1000 yen to get in.
Damn, it's so cheap, too! And the bus far to Tokyo would be around 7000 yen I think. This sucks! :lol
Hmm...it starts Friday, right? Maybe if my leg is 100% by then, I can go to TGS on Saturday...seems too risky though.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
MGS4 will own us all!!
DCharlie said:
I actually agree
Jonnyram said:
And you takin' things too seriously! Yes, yes...I know. You want Ridge Racer 6 or something to win. I agree, it should be a playable game.
Nonetheless, objectively speaking, an MGS trailer has become much more important than just a showcase to fans. It was the definining event in the early PS2's life. And at the moment, a lot of people hope MGS4 will show the way toward what next-gen games can really do in a slew of mostly mediocre showings.
Brandon F said:
To make it brief, I got a motor scooter last thursday night. Never ridden one before, so an accident was bound to happen. Saturday night it was rainy out, and when I went to make a turn, the scooter must have slipped on the slick street surface, and it fell on top of my right leg.
I went to the hospital the next day and was relieved to find no fractures or broken bones, but some bad swelling (I think it's swelling; the X-Ray looked like it) under my knee, causing a lot of pain. It's been a few days now and I've been confined to my apartment since Saturday night. Today my leg feels a lot better, but it's still difficult to move around. I think I may need to get a crutch and I'll be fine. This country is not set up very well for people with difficulty walking, IMO. It's not going to be fun trying to get up and down all these flights of stairs when I go back to work.
Yeah, you're right. MGS4 will be game of the show. Whoopee!Amir0x said:
Doubtful. Depends how it plays, but if the PSP demo last year is anything to go by, I'm not expecting anything that great. I just think game of show should be something that people could play... it's not that much to ask.
Whatever. I'm not pinning my next-gen hopes on a movie.
Indeed. Regardless of whether you care at all about the series, it is definitely important as far as showcasing what we have to look forward to (provided it lives up to the hype), and possibly setting the tone for the entire industry in many perspectives.Amir0x said:
Anyway, instead of having just one game of the show, and debating whether it should be playable or not, they should just have a "Playable Game of Show" and "Non-playable Game of Show." Simple as that.
Also, I'd just like to say that Dr. Cogent is quite possibly the most annoying poster I've seen since zeo.
rastex said:
Well, more like "new used scooter," but yeah, I'm having fun here.
The scooter was something of a must-have for me, since two of the schools I go to are too far to bike to every day, and the buses don't go to them. Had some minor financial problems (they took out rent fees for last month, which I was originally told they would not do), but I got some money from back home to cover it, so everything is fine now. Payday is next week, too, so I'll have more than enough money for any potential billing situations after that. Can't say I like how you get paid once a month here, but I'll get enough to easily cover my bills and have plenty left over for my gaming budget from that point on. ^_^;Haven't really done much teaching yet, mainly due to either schoolwide tests, athletic competitions, typhoon warnings cancelling school, or paid leaves (because of my accident), but it's been pretty enjoyable inside the classroom from when I have been there.
They don't have any air conditioning at these schools, however, which really sucks, but you do get used to it. I bet winter time is going to really suck with no heat! :lol
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
The MGS2 trailer set the tone of what then a next gen game could be like, the new gen started for me then. It's easy why MGS4 has that aura around it, you don't even have to be fan to understand why. I'm hoping MGS4 pulls people about their next gen visual apathy.
Jonnyram said:
No, because I agree that a trailer shouldn't win game of the show. It was just a joke that MGS4 was all that mattered, but you sure get defensive over it. Could it be... nah...
Jonnyram said:
I agree.
Jonnyram said:
Well that's good. If you're able to accept the mediocre garbage we've been spoonfed these past bunch of months, next-gen will be even better for you. I can't, though. So it's gonna be a long, hard 5 years.
It's my downfall, however! My hopes are on MGS4 and X05.HomerSimpson-Man
Member
neptunes said:
If you remember what MGS2 initial showing was like, then you can see why it has huge shoes to fill.
Actually I'm not interested in most of the next-gen stuff that's been shown. E3 was massively disappointing for me in every way possible. I'm glad I didn't take the time to travel out there this year. The only realtime stuff I've seen that's got me interested in next-gen is the Resident Evil 5 demo, and I'm not even a big RE fan. Looking forward to seeing more of Mizuguchi's game too, but I don't have my hopes too high, since it looks like a musou-type gameAmir0x said:Well that's good. If you're able to accept the mediocre garbage we've been spoonfed these past bunch of months, next-gen will be even better for you. I can't, though. So it's gonna be a long, hard 5 years.
brandonh83
Banned
I think what'll be the most impressive about MGS4 is the interaction with the environment... that's what blew me away about the first MGS2 trailer, just all the things that could be done... and especially with the news about the game being set in a destructable warfare environment, I don't think the ball will simply be in the opponent's side of the court only.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
Jonnyram said:Actually I'm not interested in most of the next-gen stuff that's been shown. E3 was massively disappointing for me in every way possible. I'm glad I didn't take the time to travel out there this year. The only realtime stuff I've seen that's got me interested in next-gen is the Resident Evil 5 demo, and I'm not even a big RE fan. Looking forward to seeing more of Mizuguchi's game too, but I don't have my hopes too high, since it looks like a musou-type game
RE5 wasn't real time.
Jonnyram said:Actually I'm not interested in most of the next-gen stuff that's been shown. E3 was massively disappointing for me in every way possible. I'm glad I didn't take the time to travel out there this year. The only realtime stuff I've seen that's got me interested in next-gen is the Resident Evil 5 demo, and I'm not even a big RE fan. Looking forward to seeing more of Mizuguchi's game too, but I don't have my hopes too high, since it looks like a musou-type game
Well then!
Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing 99 Nights in action too. The tantalizing bits we've seen so far have not been near enough
Priz said:I just want someone to play EXIT at the show on PSP and tell us if the demo is import friendly
(or make the suggestion of putting in english menus to Taito at the show... there's still time before release!)
In the pics of Exit we've seen so far, the text already IS in English curiously enough.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
You hurt my feelings!
*goes to injury menu*
*applies "love" injection to broken heart*
*applies bandage to broken heart*
*applies splint to broken heart*
*applies disinfectant to broken heart*
*removes leaches from broken heart*
*goes to food menu*
*eats crow*
Ah, I WANT MORE!
I thought it was technically quite a marvel, as a game i didn't get it.
But hey, we've been over that one.
MGS4 is just one part of TGS.
I think Revolution will be what everyone is talking about come friday.
JackFrost2012
Banned
man what is with all the MGS hate?
can you tell me what I should be excited about other than MGS4? cause before I clicked on this thread, I was basically seeing TGS as a big MGS4 trailer party, with maybe a sidedish of Revolution details (but I have small hope Nintendo will reveal anything before the console is on store shelves).
also, the MGS2 trailer basically killed Dreamcast dead. you can argue whether or not it should be "game of show" all you want (remember when Doom III won all those game of show awards? embarassing). but it's certainly possible it ends up being the MOST INFLUENTIAL thing shown at the show, game, movie, hardware, or otherwise.
MGS4 bitching without offering any constructive responses about what titles we should be interested in instead just comes off as sour grapes. so, lemme know what's so cool at TGS this year plz. thanks!
can you tell me what I should be excited about other than MGS4? cause before I clicked on this thread, I was basically seeing TGS as a big MGS4 trailer party, with maybe a sidedish of Revolution details (but I have small hope Nintendo will reveal anything before the console is on store shelves).
also, the MGS2 trailer basically killed Dreamcast dead. you can argue whether or not it should be "game of show" all you want (remember when Doom III won all those game of show awards? embarassing). but it's certainly possible it ends up being the MOST INFLUENTIAL thing shown at the show, game, movie, hardware, or otherwise.
MGS4 bitching without offering any constructive responses about what titles we should be interested in instead just comes off as sour grapes. so, lemme know what's so cool at TGS this year plz. thanks!
SolidSnakex
Member
Jonnyram said:
More than that actually. Even people that dislike the series apperciate what Kojima Productions is able to do with the series technically. People are still waiting for that 1 next gen game that floors everyone. Killzone would be it if Sony could prove it was real time, so the balls in Kojima's court now.
And the sad part is MGS2 still animates better than most next gen games we've seen so far.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
PS3 itself
PSP games
DS games
Revolution
X360
PS2
booth babes
...
i'm not personally bitching about MGS4 - i'm sure it's going to be lovely. I'm sure for people who like MGS, it IS the only reason for TGS, but for the rest of us who are only mildly exctied, there ARE things beyond that that will be interesting.
Plus 90% of the fun is seeing something you didn't expect.
I still stand by my statement, i don't care if it does end up being massively influential, giving Game of show to something that isn't playable seems wrong IMO.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Doom_Bringer said:
AFAIK, Capcom hasn't said one way or the other......
Where did you hear it wasn't real time?
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"Killzone would be it if Sony could prove it was real time, so the balls in Kojima's court now. "
i'm finding this incredibly short sighted personally.
the next give blow away title could come from anywhere...
Capcom
Konami
Namco
Factor 5
Square Enix
R*
Bungie
Epic
etc.... etc...
I know MGS is traditionally graphically great, but hell ...
i'm finding this incredibly short sighted personally.
the next give blow away title could come from anywhere...
Capcom
Konami
Namco
Factor 5
Square Enix
R*
Bungie
Epic
etc.... etc...
I know MGS is traditionally graphically great, but hell ...
JackFrost2012
Banned
DCharlie said:
Most places have separate Game of Show and Trailer of Show awards nowadays precisely because of people like you! And I agree. But I think you can certainly say a trailer was the "event of the show" if it ends up being generationally beyond anything you've seen so far. Going out of your way to insist a TRULY stunning trailer isn't exciting or important to the industry just because it's not playable is the flipside of rashly giving GOTS awards to projects not coming out til Spring 2008.
You and jonny seem to be insisting that because MGS4 isn't playable it should be totally ignored which is just pants.
In any case your list was awfully general...if there's any specific titles I should be interested in checking out, lemme know. Though playable Rogue Galaxy sounds hot.
DCharlie said:
Joking aside, this is one of the big things that pissed me off about MGS3 (and as an aside, also pissed me off about Resident Evil 4).
For these types of action or stealth games, going into your menu and doing this shit... it breaks the flow SO BAD. After a few times, it becomes the most annoying shit ever. And especially when you gotta do it frequently, like during a boss battle in MGS3, it almost ruins entire moments. In Resident Evil 4, same shit. But it's even somewhat amplified, because I can't even switch my weapons in real-time.
Please, Konami and Capcom. None of that shit. Please have the interfaces we'll need to use MOST be in real-time. Thanks!
JackFrost2012 said:
That's what I said! No matter where you stand, the -importance- of the MGS4 trailer/teaser cannot be understated.
DCharlie said:
I agree with this, though, 100%. It's nice, yeah, a trailer. And a trailer may very well be the most important part of this show. But it's still not something that should be game of the show, because it's not playable. Although "Event of the Show" is a good middle ground, imo...
SolidSnakex
Member
DCharlie said:
Are any of them confirmed to be showing their key franchise in next gen form at TGS that we haven't seen yet? That's why I say the ball is in Kojima's court. He's showing the game from a series that shut Sega fans up about the PS2 not being that powerful.
Hardly. I'm just saying it shouldn't be given game of the show if it's not playable. It's not much to askJackFrost2012 said:
And yes, I would be quite happy if it's event of the show.Specifics? Slime Mori Mori 2 will own your soul and replace Ouendan as the best DS game of all time
JackFrost2012
Banned
Jonnyram said:Ookami, Monster Hunter 2, Goku Makaimura, Ridge 6, Rogue Galaxy, PSU, Ryuu ga Gotoku, World of Mana, Slime Mori Mori 2, and a few surprises
Ookami: my GOTS at E3
Monster Hunter 2: don't care
Goku Makaimura: actively opposed to this game's existence
Ridge 6: don't care
Rogue Galaxy: very curious
PSU: it's PSO+ -- will play the retail for 120 hours so why waste time at TGS?
Ryuu ga Gotoku: slightly curious
World of Mana: fuck this piece of shit
Slime Mori Mori 2: cute and I love the original but not dying for the followup
a few surprises: looking forward to it!
I will just reiterate what someone else already said--people are waiting for THE next-generation game to come along and blow everyone away, and MGS4, even unplayable, stands a great chance of being that game. That's why, despite the strong merits of the omega-generation software you listed for current platforms, people are looking forward to it so much. Honestly if you're a gamer and you're NOT excited about the MGS4 trailer (esp. after MGS3 the GOTG
), I'm confused!Find room in your heart to look forward to the MGS4 trailer!!
JackFrost2012
Banned
Amir0x said:
I hate Makaimura, hate hate hate, hate. I was given a SNES for Xmas one year by my parents and my grandparents got me one game and instead of MARIO they got me Super GnG and I could never make it past level 2 and fuck those hard boring stupid games, they are not fun and fuck them. And fuck you twice if you think I'm not a "hardcore" game because I don't like them, even at 11 I had better things to do with my time than suffer though those poor-play controlling one-hit death no checkpoint shitty games!!!!!!
I just haven't enjoyed MGS since the first one. I'm not into the gameplay: run into room, die, repeat 100x until you find the right way to do it. It's not skill-based because there's too much surprise. You just learn the surprises, and outplay them. Not my cup of tea, unfortunately.JackFrost2012 said:Honestly if you're a gamer and you're NOT excited about the MGS4 trailer (esp. after MGS3 the GOTG
JackFrost2012
Banned
Jonnyram said:
I cleared entire zones in MGS3 on the first go-through because I was playing carefully...MGS2 was a lot like what you described, but in MGS3 they paced it a lot more reasonably so that even if you were spotted it could "degrade" gracefully into something you could still accomplish.
In any case, the gameplay problems you just described are Splinter Cell, not MGS.
The MGS series is fun because being spotted DOESN'T equal an instant game-over.EDIT: WAIT, you are hating on MGS for its "die-and-retry" gameplay, yet you LIKE MAKAIMURA?!?! I demand an explanation.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
???
i'm not saying that at all! if you look back i called for it to be made either "Presentation of the show" or "Future game of show". As i said, i'm sure it's going to be lovely, but i just want a playable game to be game of show. I'm not saying it's not exciting , i'm just saying that saying "TGS = MGS4" is a fanboys stance (not meant in a derogatory sense). Some people aren't into the series (like you aren't in to Makaimura and i am for instance), and as jonny points out, there's a LOAD of stuff to get excited about for those people. It's just different horses for different courses.
I've no qualms about MGS4 getting an award if it's kick ass. There are a number of directions MGS4 could go that would excite me to bits (as stated in a number of threads), so i'm certainly open to it rocking.
JackFrost2012 said:
Wow, sounds like... at 11... it was something like torture for you. Like you associated it with your parents punishing you!
Anyway, that's cool. I just thought there was something specifically associated with new Makaimura that you're not cool with. As a fan of the series, though, this response is not a problem. I loved the challenge
MightyHedgehog
Member
The problem with giving a GotS award to a non-playable title, even if it's only being demoed in real time, but still not playable...is that it steals a spot for another, more deserving title to have that award, where it was playable and, in most cases, coming out a lot sooner than any of the titles that win GotS awards yet come out a year or two later. It basically cripples the point of naming it GAME of the show.
In an industry that is constantly at odds with itself about the definition of its place in the entertainment spectrum, as artform or tech toy, I think it's very important to ensure that games that are playable, and probably closer to releasing, need that kind of love more than something that is just purely hype until it truly materializes. There are lots of great games out there that release every single year, but you'd almost not know that given how the media and the big media/retailer events put more focus on big-ticket items...what are generally seen as guaranteed sellers...I suppose so that they can maintain or grow credibility with their targetted demographic...for ad sales and such. I mean, those kind of really influential titles will still grab the limelight...but let's not throw in the keys to the kingdom here. If this industry wants to start truly broadening its appeal, it needs to start from within in how it treats the kinds of software being slaved upon out there.
Eh, not sure if this actually means anything :lol So stoned right now.
Ummm...short story: giving a GotS award to non-playable work is akin to giving Palm d'or at Cannes to a film trailer debut instead of the films that were actually screened in full there.
In an industry that is constantly at odds with itself about the definition of its place in the entertainment spectrum, as artform or tech toy, I think it's very important to ensure that games that are playable, and probably closer to releasing, need that kind of love more than something that is just purely hype until it truly materializes. There are lots of great games out there that release every single year, but you'd almost not know that given how the media and the big media/retailer events put more focus on big-ticket items...what are generally seen as guaranteed sellers...I suppose so that they can maintain or grow credibility with their targetted demographic...for ad sales and such. I mean, those kind of really influential titles will still grab the limelight...but let's not throw in the keys to the kingdom here. If this industry wants to start truly broadening its appeal, it needs to start from within in how it treats the kinds of software being slaved upon out there.
Eh, not sure if this actually means anything :lol So stoned right now.
Ummm...short story: giving a GotS award to non-playable work is akin to giving Palm d'or at Cannes to a film trailer debut instead of the films that were actually screened in full there.