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[Dr_Cogent]

I for one, welcome the camera change. It's about time the game moved on from that obsolete gameplay-hindering camera system.

I liked both MGS2 and MGS3, but can't say I loved the gameplay. I thought the camera system dictated too much of the gameplay and held it back big time.

Uh oh! Better fucking jump all over IJoel like a bunch of mindless sheep!

 

[Kabuki Waq]

Evolving is one thing, turning it into another series is a completely different thing. Play MGS and then MGS2 and then 3, those are natural evolutions. MGS3 to Splinter Cell isn't.

MGS2 to MGS3 was an improvement for sure....But in NO WAY was the game perfect.

1.) the script and cutscnenes need to be tightened by alot.

2.) camera needs to be improved.

3.) the Codec conversations should not be so intrusive to the flow of the game.


You are gonna say camera does not need to be improved but obviously Kojima does not agree.

 

[Razoric]

Kojima is re-releasing MGS3 with the new camera style. It's not like it's going to change the game completely or make it a "splinter cell copycat". That's just stupid. MGS is MGS.

 

[Amir0x]

Uh oh! Better fucking jump all over IJoel like a bunch of mindless sheep!

Someone is bitter.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Someone is bitter.

Not bitter at all. I just think there is a mob mentality here at GAF when it comes to MGS.

It's stupid.

I also don't say dumbass things like you have shitty tastes in games Amir0x. That's what a fanboy says.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

Kojima is re-releasing MGS3 with the new camera style. It's not like it's going to change the game completely or make it a "splinter cell copycat". That's just stupid. MGS is MGS.

agreed ppl seem to think that every improvement suggested is gonna make it splintercell automatically.

 

[SolidSnakex]

You are gonna say camera does not need to be improved but obviously Kojima does not agree.

No I personally like the overhead cam, but i've always said he should add in a 3rd person cam because there are some that dont like the overhead cam. That's fine, its not drastically playing how the game plays and will allow more people to get into the series. But turning it into SC is just going to make the fans that have always loved the series walk away from it.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

The camera worked well in MGS1 and MGS2, mostly because all the combat was inside buildings and hallways. MGS3 was much more open, which allowed for you to be seen from more angles.

Also, while I know the Soliton radar wasn't supposed to be around in the 60s, it sure made blind spots tons easier in MGS1 and MGS2 (before you knew where everything was, of course). If MGS3 had a Soliton radar, I would have enjoyed it much, much more. In fact, I never finished it because I was very frustrated with not being able to see what was around the corner without actually running out from cover. Subsistence is EXACTLY what I wanted, because with a controllable 3D camera, I can peak around corners and see long distances without getting fucked.

I am very much looking forward to getting MGS3:S and having a blast with it. I was really enjoying the storyline, but I was always getting shot up.

e: 3D cam or overhead cam, MGS is not SC.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

No I personally like the overhead cam, but i've always said he should add in a 3rd person cam because there are some that dont like the overhead cam. That's fine, its not drastically playing how the game plays and will allow more people to get into the series. But turning it into SC is just going to make the fans that have always loved the series walk away from it.

it only helps the gamer to be able to see 2 feet infront of you while moving and not having to change view. Changing the camera will not turn it into splinter cell. The games are way different.

 

[John Harker]

Resident Evil 5 would be amazing.

But something tells me we wont get much new...
Probably more RE4 PS2 videos or something.

Also looking forward to Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles for DS or Rev, believe it or not.
And Super Smash Bros 3 video clip??
I just wanna know of Sonic and/or Pacman etc are there.

and.... and....
Hey is FFXII coming out yet? ha

 

[Amir0x]

I also don't say dumbass things like you have shitty tastes in games Amir0x. That's what a fanboy says.

I cannot tell a lie, Cogent! My mother wouldn't like it.

 

[SolidSnakex]

it only helps the gamer to be able to see 2 feet infront of you while moving and not having to change view. Changing the camera will not turn it into splinter cell. The games are way different.

I'm not saying it would. I'm talking about what Cogent was saying earlier. Making the game more believable, making Snake control like Sam ect. That's what I don't like, not the camera change. That's fine.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

I cannot tell a lie, Cogent! My mother wouldn't like it.

Well, you've been branded in my eyes from now on.

You also apparently don't understand what a lie is. A lie would be contrary to the truth, but unfortunately - taste isn't fact. Draw your own conclusions. I know I have.

I'm not saying it would. I'm talking about what Cogent was saying earlier. Making the game more believable, making Snake control like Sam ect. That's what I don't like, not the camera change. That's fine.

And you have every right to disagree and not want that and say so. But turning it into a fight like Amir0x, Solid and dark have is idiotic.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I'm not saying it would. I'm talking about what Cogent was saying earlier. Making the game more believable, making Snake control like Sam ect. That's what I don't like, not the camera change. That's fine.

oh no you see cogent is insane.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

around and around we go...


Back to TGS:
I wonder if there will be a new Colossus trailer? On one hand, I'd love to see at least more new colossi, but on the other hand, with about a month away from release, I don't know if I want to see anymore. I'm torn.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

oh no you see cogent is insane.

:lol

If I'm insane, Hideo should be in a nut house for sure simply because of MGS2

I'll be playing MGS again when I get my PS3.

 

[bud]

To me TGS=MGS4

 

[jett]

around and around we go...


Back to TGS:
I wonder if there will be a new Colossus trailer? On one hand, I'd love to see at least more new colossi, but on the other hand, with about a month away from release, I don't know if I want to see anymore. I'm torn.

If there is i'm sure as shit not going to download it. I've already seen about half the colossi in the game. :\

 

[Ceb]

Taking away the radar from MGS3 was a great decision. It forced me to actually learn the mechanics - something MGS2 didn't really do. Never ever had a problem with the view distance either, thanks to the function of the right analog stick. Plus, switching into first-person view is more or less instant. I can't for the life of me see how it would be so bothersome...

 

[Amir0x]

Well, you've been branded in my eyes from now on.

You also apparently don't understand what a lie is. A lie would be contrary to the truth, but unfortunately - taste isn't fact. Draw your own conclusions. I know I have.

But how I feel about your taste IS already determined! That's a fact! I can't fib! You're mean and take things seriously AND you think most of PS2s five ka-trillion exclusives aren't worthy! You're a shadowy figure!

 

[Dr_Cogent]

But how I feel about your taste IS already determined! That's a fact! I can't fib! You're mean and take things seriously AND you think most of PS2s five ka-trillion exclusives aren't worthy! You're a shadowy figure!

I'm mean?

Anyway, I played many of the PS2 exclusives that were out when I did own a PS2. I owned one for quite some time. I can't see myself buying it back for one or two games I really want to play. World of Warcraft already limits my other game play time anyway.

Anyway, talk about TGS guys.

 

[Amir0x]

I'm mean?

Anyway, I played many of the PS2 exclusives that were out when I did own a PS2. I owned one for quite some time. I can't see myself buying it back for one or two games I really want to play. World of Warcraft already limits my other game play time anyway.

Anyway, talk about TGS guys.

TGS sucks, and you suck now too! Sucker.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I'm mean?

Anyway, I played many of the PS2 exclusives that were out when I did own a PS2. I owned one for quite some time. I can't see myself buying it back for one or two games I really want to play. World of Warcraft already limits my other game play time anyway.

Anyway, talk about TGS guys.

wait you play MMOs? you shouldnt even talk about MGS being too movie like or a "non" game.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

wait you play MMOs? you shouldnt even talk about MGS being too movie like or a "non" game.

WoW has no movie elements. I'm not pulled out of the game every 5-10 mins to watch a movie or some codec sequence like I was in MGS2.

dark says MGS3 is less like that. That's a good thing.

 

[Amir0x]

wait you play MMOs? you shouldnt even talk about MGS being too movie like or a "non" game.

In Cogent's defense, I am not seeing the connection you're trying to make.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

WoW has no movie elements. I'm not pulled out of the game every 5-10 mins to watch a movie.

out of the game? You are being rewarded for the time you spend running through the same dungeons over and over again. Leveling up. I prefer to play games that require skill more than endless leveling up.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

In Cogent's defense, I am not seeing the connection you're trying to make.

Pet peeve against mmos. ill stop now.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Pet peeve against mmos. ill stop now.

I won't attack you because of your opinion on the subject though. Unlike others here.

That's the difference between me and them. :lol

So what else at TGS is supposed to be hot anyhow?

 

[Amir0x]

Pet peeve against mmos. ill stop now.

I see. Well, I'm not particularly fond of MMOs either in terms of gameplay. The ones I do play (or did play) were played for the community, 'cause my friends usually were there or because I liked the economic aspect. I'm fascinated by the communities that spring up in these games, to be honest.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I see. Well, I'm not particularly fond of MMOs either in terms of gameplay. The ones I do play (or did play) were played for the community, 'cause my friends usually were there or because I liked the economic aspect. I'm fascinated by the communities that spring up in these games, to be honest.

I consider MMOs to be the same as nintendogs and "Cinemetic games" when it comes to the non games category... so i was trying to make the connection

 

[SolidSnakex]

Anyway, talk about TGS guys.

We are, TGS = MGS.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I predict MGS4 will get owned by something huge and unexpected

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I predict MGS4 will get owned by something huge and unexpected

SHENMUE 3!!!


Confirmed by Smiles and Cries!

 

[Dr_Cogent]

I predict MGS4 will get owned by something huge and unexpected

OMG! Someones world is going to come crumbling down around them! :lol

Can you give us any more hints than that?

 

[jett]

In Cogent's defense, I am not seeing the connection you're trying to make.

It's probably got something to do with MMORPGS being the most worthless genre of them all and a general insult to human intelligence.

 

[BuckRobotron]

I'm interested in seeing/hearing about just about anything there, but these I'm more actively interested in, for now:

[Culled from Jarrod's list back there on Page 1]
Atlus
PS2 Devil Summoner: Kuzuha Rydoh playable

Capcom
PS2 biohazard 4 playable 2005-Q4
PS2 Ookami playable 2006-Q1
PS2 Shin Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams playable

Electronic Arts
X360 Need for Speed Most Wanted playable

Koei
X360 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Special 2005-Q4
PS2 Winback 2 Project Poseidon movie 2005-Q4

Konami
PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4 movie
X360 Rumble Roses XX movie online
PS2 Genso Suikoden V playable
PS2 Rhapsodia playable 2005-09-22
PS2 Akumajou Dracula: Yami no Jyuin playable

Microsoft
X360 Kameo: Elements of Power playable

Namco
X360 Frame City movie 2005-Q4 online
X360 Ridge Racer 6 playable online
PS2 Tales of the Abyss playable 2005-12-15
PS2 MotoGP4 playable 2005-09-15

SCE
PS2 Wanda to Kyouzou playable 2005-10-27
PS2 Ratchet & Clank 4th playable 2005-11-23
PS2 Rogue Galaxy playable 2005-12

Sega
X360 Chrome Hounds stage
PS2 Sega Rally 2006 playable 2006
PS2 Shooting Love: Trizeal playable 2005-Q4

SNK Playmore
PS2 Garou Mark of the Wolves playable on sale online

Square Enix
PS2 Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII playable online
PS2 Kingdom Hearts II playable

Taito
X360 World Air Force playable

Tecmo
X360 Dead or Alive 4 movie

Ubisoft
X360 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
PS2 King Kong

 

[Dr_Cogent]

It's probably got something to do with MMORPGS being the most worthless genre of them all and a general insult to human intelligence.

Now that's trolling.

 

[Kakusha]

Oi, what's this "Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition"? ^^;

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/650/650167p1.html

This gen, buying full priced "demos" before a "complete" release has happened a little too often.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Oi, what's this "Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition"? ^^;

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/650/650167p1.html

This gen, buying full priced "demos" before a "complete" release has happened a little too often.

Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition aka Weaksauce Sissy Gamer Edition.

 

[BuckRobotron]

If this were to be a successor or in spirit of Border Down, oh my...

G.Rev New X360 game news from Gamespot

 

[Kakusha]

What, the original J version wasn't forgiving enough with its unlimited continues? :lol

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

What, the original J version wasn't forgiving enough with its unlimited continues? :lol

Apparently it wasn't enough!!

 

[sprsk]

mmm g.rev and treasure

 

[SolidSnakex]

I'll buy DMC3 again under 1 condition, that Lady is a playable character in this one.

While they're at it, including her in DMC4 and giving her a spinoff wouldn't be a bad idea either.

 

[Lakitu]

I'll buy DMC3 again under 1 condition, that Lady is a playable character in this one.

While they're at it, including her in DMC4 and giving her a spinoff wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Spoiler

I thought the boss fight against her was great.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

I'll buy DMC3 again under 1 condition, that Lady is a playable character in this one.

While they're at it, including her in DMC4 and giving her a spinoff wouldn't be a bad idea either.

That first pic is just amazing. Capcom modeler are just fantastic. I stare at the pic captivated, she looks like someone I would meet in real life.

 

[Kakusha]

Could it have Lady & Vergil as selectable characters + 2 player mode + new costumes + new weapons + new demons + extra scenes
+ tweaked moves ala fighting game + ...

Blah, we'll find out soon enough!

 

[Lakitu]

That first pic is just amazing. Capcom modeler are just fantastic. I stare at the pic captivated, she looks like someone I would meet in real life.

You must meet some awesome people

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

You must meet some awesome people

Maybe "meet" isn't the word, more like pass by cause sometimes there are some really hot girls on my college campus.

 

[SolidSnakex]

That first pic is just amazing. Capcom modeler are just fantastic. I stare at the pic captivated, she looks like someone I would meet in real life.

You can, just track down the girl from TATU