winjer
Member
As if other publishers don't pay 30% when they put games on a Playstation console.
so when is Playstation PC launcher releasing
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As if other publishers don't pay 30% when they put games on a Playstation console.
bitbydeath
Member
It'd be a waste of money.
bitbydeath
Member
Agreed. No point trying.
Fess
Member
I used to think so too but Sony isn't Epic. And it wouldn't be about taking market shares from Valve like Epic tries to do, it would be about having complete control over their own stuff outside of PlayStation consoles.
Once they have an official launcher the industry can take whatever strange turn and Sony would still be in control. They can have their launcher on mobile, web, streaming devices and TVs, PCs, VR headsets, Windows, Linux, Mac, handhelds, multi launcher UIs. Complete control everywhere. And if they regret it and want to go PlayStation only. Poof! Launcher gone.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Holy shit the quality of threads is through the roof here recently
bitbydeath
Member
Big waste of money though if you're not expecting much in return.
ArtHands
Banned
A Playstation store app on PC where you can buy and play Playstation games on PC
Topher
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
No it doesn't, mihoyo has their own launcher, EGS just downloads the the launcher.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
My point is that it is available on their storefront.
Judge Magister
Member
What were those sources for the PlayStation launcher?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
They won't.
Imagine, they release the launcher on PC. They would have 2 options:
Imagine, they release the launcher on PC. They would have 2 options:
- Paid multiplayer. PC bros get mad and go back to Steam.
- Free multiplayer. Console bros get mad. "Why are PC bros getting a better deal than us?"
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Ok but that's not what you said. you said "runs on" and put it together with fortnite as their "two" games, but unlike fortnite it doesn't "run on" EGS and is available elsewhere.
forsakkenSoul
Member
If Sony's games were an absolute success on PC, it would make sense for them to have their own launcher on the platform, but there are games that even with Steam's huge user base, they can barely sell, imagine without that base. I don't think it would be worth it, either, obviously, in the short term or in the long term.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
As a fanboy, getting high over Sony will get 100 percent of the money instead of having to pay steam a cut.
For consumer, only negativism as every game should be on steam instead of their own launcher.
Mr Moose
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FrankWza
Member
According to the op, he can make this happen on his own. Just like he successfully stopped the Portal from PS cloud streaming.
Fess
Member
What they would get in return is control. No idea how much money that's worth, I guess it depends on what Valve plans to do going forward. As an example, if Sony wants to launch a handheld in 2026-2027 then I think it would be in their interest to not already have all their games on PC handhelds through Steam.
reinking
Gold Member
Sony is not going to put their prize games day one on Steam. It will kill their console/handheld business. They know it and they are not going to follow Microsoft like a lemming to their console's demise. MS can afford to do it that way because their roots are in PC gaming. They were PC long before they were console. Sony and Nintendo roots are in console/handheld gaming. That is where they will remain focused until it is no longer viable. We are a looooooong way from that regardless of what the new talking points are coming from team green.
Never. Because it is not worth trying to take on Steam. Only MS has a reason to take on Valve since Windows is their lifeblood, and technically MS gaming started on PC long before they made their own console. But even they are unlikely to wrestle control of PC gaming away from Valve at this point.
Sony already has a very strong platform with Playstation. They don't have any vested intresest in PC or Windows (they don't operate the OS and they don't even make computers anymore). They should use their IP to strengthen their own platform further, instead of strengthening the competition by porting almost all of their library to PC.
Sony already has a very strong platform with Playstation. They don't have any vested intresest in PC or Windows (they don't operate the OS and they don't even make computers anymore). They should use their IP to strengthen their own platform further, instead of strengthening the competition by porting almost all of their library to PC.
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Fess
Member
Yeah I've been saying that for awhile now. What I'm talking about here is them doing an official PlayStation launcher. There they can do whatever want, their rules, it can be their own first party thing, walls and all. And it would setup a good foundation for whatever path for the future the industry takes. Cloud, mobile, web, PC, VR. It all works if they have their own launcher.
And are they going to pr push their handheld device with the only differentiating thing being one year timed exclusivity for at least one big 1st party title pre year? Their games will already be portable through Steam. How will they sell it?
You mention Microsoft. Have you noticed that they're now pushing for their own store and launcher again?
Why? Likely because they want some control and walls back that they lost through their Steam strategy. They know that Steam is spreading out. And no Gamepass on SteamOS. No Play Anywhere on Steam. No achievements shown. No playtime shown. No screens shown.
Herman is you?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Linux based, right?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
All of those games combined are not as popular as Fortnite. EGS has also been giving away free games since its inception, and still hasn't been able to take any real market share. Steam is too entrenched.
Sony is probably best off doing what they're doing now. If they stop putting games on PC altogether they are ceding the rapidly growing Asian market to Gabe/Tencent/Netease and the big publishers who are doing business there now. Customer acquisition cost is surely way higher than just meeting customers where they already exist in places where consoles aren't popular.
If Sony had a huge hit game it would make sense to do a barebones launcher like Mihoyo or Rockstar but if they tried to do that with Helldivers 2 it would've just flopped IMO. Maybe Destiny 3.
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Xbox 360 slim
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Ask epic games how that is working
VeganElduderino
Member
hopefully never! there's enough launchers on pc , stupid ones like Ubisoft, EA , Rockstar...dumb as fuck
GHG
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Gamezone
Gold Member
Didn't work out for EA, Microsoft, Ubisoft, Rockstar, GOG or Activision to go launcher exclusive. Why the hell would it work out for Sony? They're even struggling on Steam. A launcher would kill then.
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Gamezone
Gold Member
Yeah, like that would be selling points that people cares about.... It's also achievable trough Steam.
bitbydeath
Member
Sony isn't making a PC handheld.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Microsoft had a gaming storefront before they even started porting first parties to PC and it just got subsumed by Steam. There's no dislodging that mammoth, and any space that hasn't been taken up by is occupied by DRM-free GOG, which no one else does or will ever do, with Epic Games squeezing into the last tiny corner because they have Fortnite cash to burn.
Any further attempts will be an automatic waste of time and money.
Any further attempts will be an automatic waste of time and money.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Again, you're playing semantics here.
It's available "elsewhere" but the key context here being that it isn't available on Steam. The context of the conversation was whether you could FIND a game on the storefront or not.
Going further, the original point is that i don't think anyone is denying that steam is massive, but the idea that no competitors can compete because Epic isn't competing is kind of foolish because the biggest games on PC don't appear on Steam but Epic's contribution to that is "largely" limited to Fortnite.
If I was Sony and I wanted to compete with Steam, I'd complete key acquisitions to position myself in a much stronger position on PC and by doing things that only Sony can do, i.e. leveraging PC exclusivity against lower console royalties and the sheer output of PlayStation Studios.
[Example] All Sony has to do is say to T2 for example, we'll lower your royalties to 25% on PS5 if you launch exclusively on PSN PC and we won't charge you any royalties at all on PSN PC. That's a significant deal and the BEST Valve could do to try and match it would be to also not charge at all, but that still leaves off the 5% royalties on PS5 that they can't match.
Imagine GTA6 is 80 dollars and sells 40 million copies on PS5. That's 160 million dollars... Not to mention that you're saving 20% on PC and will sell just as well outside of Steam. If the game sells 60 million on PC that's 960 million dollars on top of the 160... you're looking at 1.12 billion dollars saved.
If I'm Sony and I'm looking to get a PC launcher out, the deadline is really probably Q1-Q2 2027.
kevboard
Member
having a way to be independent on PC after the inevitable death of home consoles.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Support a charity. Sony doesn't need your support.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Then why are EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar, Microsoft, Blizzard and GOG happy with paying Valve 30%? They all have their own launchers. EA, Microsoft and EA even left Steam at one point, only to be crawling back.
Not to mention that EGS is doing poorly as he'll.
You are trolling us at this point, right?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
You said it runs on EGS on PC while it doesn't, that's all.
If you wanted a better example you could've used Rocket League instead, since Epic had it removed from steam it's actually only available on EGS like fortnite.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Crazy that it's been unavailable on Steam for 5 years and still has 27k concurrent players right now
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I guess epic never gave existing players an incentive to move over, and since it's updated all the same, those numbers will probably never drop all the way.
, would never happen though.
Fess
Member
Of course not but they're making a handheld for PlayStation games.
If PlayStation games are available on PC handhelds already, because their games are on Steam, then how will they make their handheld seem exciting?
Can you not see a problem with their current strategy?
Not having to give Steam 30%.