So with the success of Assassin's Creed Shadows has the culture war foolishness ran its course ?

onQ123 said:
Or will we still have to deal with all the non gameplay related drama for years to come whenever new games are released?
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Nah it's done.
We have now officially moved past people freaking out whenever the protagonist is a woman, not white, not straight or not hot.

Glad we all got it out of our system.
I'll admit there were a funny moments along the way
 
I dont engage in all that but I notice the trends.

Seems like the silent crowd "normies" are voicing their disdain of the "anti-woke" brigade and calling it retarded.
 
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Success would imply Ubisoft will survive this release.

Until we see what happens to Ubisoft over the next year, it's hard to know whether this really qualifies as the success necessary to keep them afloat.
 
onQ123 said:
The fact that it had to be forced to begin with is a problem in its self
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That's debatable and I don't agree. If devs have a certain vision for a game and inclusion suits that vision? If so write those DEI Characters great and not like a complete stereotype than maybe, but i was done horribly most of the time.a
 
I wish, but it's far from over unfortunately. We're going to continue to see/hear banter, false facts, and "drama" being flung from all sides and from numerous areas of the internet in hopes of getting more and more clicks.

Much like we'll continue to see responses that appear when attractive characters are wearing revealing clothing. Or when a protagonist in a game is a female or someone that isn't white. There are voices on all "sides" that won't stop yapping, and they're just going to keep on and on. All while likely not even really caring or probably even playing video games at all, lol.
 
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The amount of heat they took, and many other games, together with a broader cultural shift - woke will take time to pass through the system. What's already in the oven it's too late.

It's possible this game may have been 50% higher if not for the BLM infused direction.
 
Define success. R.E.P.O's been for sale a month now and it's out-performing and grossing higher than Shadows & anything else despite being much cheaper.
How many threads do we have for it? Zero, zip, zilch, nada.

You are the culture war nonsense yourself.

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The reality of "culture wars" is they never impacted game sales. People buy games they think will be good and don't buy games they think won't. It could be the most pandering insufferable game ever, but if the gameplay is amazing and it's getting great scores it will sell really well.
 
JPSLotus97T said:
Success would imply Ubisoft will survive this release.

Until we see what happens to Ubisoft over the next year, it's hard to know whether this really qualifies as the success necessary to keep them afloat.
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But Isn't the Just Dance craze dying down their biggest troubles?
 
No. This is like buying a mattress. It came compressed and we opened it. There's no rolling it back up and putting it back in the plastic bag and box it shipped in. To quote Rainn Wilson's character in Juno - "This is one doodle that can't be undid, home skillet"

Holammer said:
Define success. R.E.P.O's been for sale a month now and it's out-performing and grossing higher than Shadows & anything else despite being much cheaper.
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You can't say things like that without citing a source.

JPSLotus97T said:
Success would imply Ubisoft will survive this release.
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Ubisoft will survive this release. 1 game was never going to save them after over a decade of shit business and creative decisions.
 
A game being fun overrides all that for most people, and it helps that Naoe and Yasuke are likable characters and not insufferable ones clearly just meant to spew an agenda.
 
DragoonKain said:
The reality of "culture wars" is they never impacted game sales. People buy games they think will be good and don't buy games they think won't. It could be the most pandering insufferable game ever, but if the gameplay is amazing and it's getting great scores it will sell really well.
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Ehem, Concord, Avowed, Dragon age Veilguard, Star wars outlaw, etc. My point is majority still base their purchase on there instinct, values, common sense, and conscience not on reviews. The batting average is still high against games push and force woke agenda.
 
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yogaflame said:
Ehem, Concord, Avowed, Dragon age Veilguard, Star wars outlaw, etc. My point is majority still base their purchase on there instinct, values and conscience. The batting average is still high for woke agenda games to fail.
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For every one of those games there's a Baldur's Gate 3 or Last of Us Part II or endless other examples.


The reality is no one gives a shit outside of terminally online neckbeard edge lords.
 
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analog_future said:
Culture warrios in tis thread


For every one of those games there's a Baldur's Gate 3 or Last of Us Part II or endless other examples.


The reality is no one gives a shit outside of terminally online neckbeard edge lords.
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I think its more of political climate. If those games you mentioned are launch today, there is a big possibility that it will not be a big hit. It will sell but not a as big , compared to the era that those games were launch. In todays era, I think it is like 5:1 in favor of anti dei and woke agenda.
 
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yogaflame said:
I think its more of political climate. If those games you mentioned are launch today, there is a big possibility that it will not be a big hit. It will sell but not a as big , compared to the era that those games were launch. In todays era, i think it is like 5:1 in favor of anti dei and woke agenda.
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A comparable game did launch "today" and is a big hit. That's what this fucking thread is about lol
 
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yogaflame said:
Ehem, Concord, Avowed, Dragon age Veilguard, Star wars outlaw, etc. My point is majority still base their purchase on there instinct, values, common sense, and conscience not on reviews. The batting average is still high against games push and force woke agenda.
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Those games didn't have great sales because they didn't look very good and/or had awful marketing not because of a woke agenda. If GTA6 had n agenda it would still break records because its GTA and everyone wants it.
 
analog_future said:
For every one of those games there's a Baldur's Gate 3 or Last of Us Part II or endless other examples.


The reality is no one gives a shit outside of terminally online neckbeard edge lords.
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The reality is all woke games sell a lot less vs what they could sell if no woke agenda were pushed, to some its still ok to be profitable, to some others it means big flop/whole series is put on hiatus or ended, and to some it even ends with lay offs/studio clousure.

Often mentioned BG3 can be played w/o seeing any woke shit, and its really of high quality, thats why it sold so well and is praised by gamers, game quality simply took priority, not agenda pushing, most western devs arent smart enough to do it that way, so we get bomb after bomb or best case scenario performing below expectactions.

TLOU2/Spiderman2 had really good marketting but longlasting events/future entries in the series will definitely suffer coz of major fuck ups those 2 got.

And to stay on topic, aka AC:S- we know it didnt bomb, and we know its not crazy big success so far(65k ccu on steam, 2m players official info) to determine anything else we need more time/data so lets wait patiently, maybe we get 5m players official announcemnt this month, which would confirm game at least broke even/is mild success, we all gotta excercise lil bit more patience :)
 
Holammer said:
It's been sold for a month and it's still in the top 3, are you incapable of observing trends? Asking for sources like some wikipedia redditor.

Fine, I'll play your game.
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It's not a game. I asked because you clearly know something the rest of us don't since no one else brought it up. I asked for a source so I, and anyone else curious, could know what you know. And because making a statement like that backed up with a source should be the norm.

Why does everything have to be a fight?
 
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PeteBull said:
The reality is all woke games sell a lot less vs what they could sell if no woke agenda were pushed, to some its still ok to be profitable, to some others it means big flop/whole series is put on hiatus or ended, and to some it even ends with lay offs/studio clousure.

Often mentioned BG3 can be played w/o seeing any woke shit, and its really of high quality, thats why it sold so well and is praised by gamers, game quality simply took priority, not agenda pushing, most western devs arent smart enough to do it that way, so we get bomb after bomb or best case scenario performing below expectactions.

TLOU2/Spiderman2 had really good marketting but longlasting events/future entries in the series will definitely suffer coz of major fuck ups those 2 got.

And to stay on topic, aka AC:S- we know it didnt bomb, and we know its not crazy big success so far(65k ccu on steam, 2m players official info) to determine anything else we need more time/data so lets wait patiently, maybe we get 5m players official announcemnt this month, which would confirm game at least broke even/is mild success, we all gotta excercise lil bit more patience :)
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You're in way too deep with this nonsense. The Last of Us as a franchise is bigger than it's ever been. It's the most popular series on HBO right now. And if you think Spider-Man 3 sales are going to bomb you're fucking nuts lol.


People care about whether a game is good or not. 99% of customers have absolutely no idea whether or not a game is considered "woke" or not.


Again, this terminally online bullshit is causing mass brainrot. Ya'll are completely out of touch with reality.
 
Dude, it's Assassin's Creed, it's a huge IP no matter how shit Ubi is

If AC Shadows was a new IP named idk, Concord in Japan, it'd had bombed so bad 😂

Some stuff just evade any culture war bs by the strength of the brand
 
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