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[Topher]

I think if Yasuke character was an Assassin that introduced Naoe to the Creed instead of a historical character that has his history altered, it wouldn't have blown up.
Also taking another historical person that was honourable and respected and making them cheat on her husband with Yasuke is "problematic" and "disrespectful"
Sure it's only a game.....but come on.
Who thought that would be a good idea.

I haven't gotten to that part in the game, but yeah......that's just bizarre. Of course, I don't think the writing in the side quest stuff is very good overall. Not that AC writing has ever been particularly good, but this game still manages to take a step backwards in quality narrative.

 

[Peroroncino]

it ain't over till it's over

 

[justiceiro]

People on that "fight" do for the thrill, not to win. They don't consume anything for enjoyment anymore. Rage baiting is their enjoyment. You can see in this very topic. There should be a way to stop people from discussing games they never played.

 

[Hudo]

People on that "fight" do for the thrill, not to win. They don't consume anything for enjoyment anymore. Rage baiting is their enjoyment. You can see in this very topic. There should be a way to stop people from discussing games they never played.

This is my impression as well.

 

[calico]

True, these ideologies in game design probably can't survive without censorship.

 

[Aguero9320]

People on that "fight" do for the thrill, not to win. They don't consume anything for enjoyment anymore. Rage baiting is their enjoyment. You can see in this very topic.

That's perhaps one of the saddest things I've ever read - had never really thought about it like that, but that I can even think you could be right is so depressing. What happened to us?

 

[KiteGr]

The culture war was very destructive. Wokies pushed it to far, and they did it on franchises they had no business doing so. So they allienated the normies, as it became a very obvious mania, and made a mortal enemy of the nerds for destroying all their franchises.
One doesn't just destroy every western franchise that exists without without leaving some people frothingly angry.
On the other hand, anti-wokes in their anger put the orange testicle in the most powerful position in the world creating a new set of headaches for the civilised world (I'm glad I didn't participate in that one).

Now in the aftermath in the ruins of dead companies, the pendulum will swing on the other way as we'll see some raunchy releases and some promising "woke friendly" IPs will fail to stand up, and hopefully after that things will go as they where before, minus the old franchises and companies.

Personally I just want to stop thinking about it.
I now can't see a minority character without reverse engineering every possible decision behind it's inclusion. The trauma is still fresh


For the record...
Shadows didn't succeed. They wave it as a success to get a better deal from Tencent.

 

[captainnapalm]

As long as there are whopping failures like Suicide Squad and Concord that cost companies literally hundreds of millions of dollars - don't expect the noise about this kind of stuff to end. Companies will keep learning very hard lessons.

I do find it ironic that it's the people who picked this fight now clamoring for it to end. Gamers were literally just minding their own business enjoying a hobby they loved and created - only for woke ideologues to come and inject themselves in the conversation and demand change, as if society and culture owed them something.

Meanwhile, Asian games will continue to benefit from not embracing this nonsense, while Western games celebrate fairly minuscule successes in comparison. Before all this nonsense, western devs were eating Asia's lunch, but my, how things have changed.

 

[Schmendrick]

So far all we have are "engagement" numbers.
The kind of numbers Microsoft also used to try to spin disappointing sales figures into successes.
I don't think shadows will be a complete commercial flop, but if it's already trailing behind the last installment I doubt that it has a chance to become as successful as Ubisoft needs it to be after their string of big flops.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

A fitting soundtrack for threads like this.

 

[Blitzkrieg!]

That's perhaps one of the saddest things I've ever read - had never really thought about it like that, but that I can even think you could be right is so depressing. What happened to us?

What do you mean "what happened to us?"? Humans have been tribal and thrived on conflict since the start. The only thing that's changed is social media facilitating these proxy battles.

 

[Kacho]

I do find it ironic that it's the people who picked this fight now clamoring for it to end. Gamers were literally just minding their own business enjoying a hobby they loved and created - only for woke ideologues to come and inject themselves in the conversation and demand change, as if society and culture owed them something.

Then:
"Video games have always been political."

Now:
"Please stop guys! What happened to video game discourse???"

 

[DryvBy]

This all feels familiar

Skull & Bones Really Isn't As Bad As The Metacritic User Reviews Say

Don’t get me wrong, I'm not playing any more of it, but you still should try it if you want to

www.thegamer.com

 

[grvg]

Grummz (Mark Kern) is at a point where no one will invest in any more of his schemes. So he has resorted to making money on twitter by generating outrage, baiting people into engaging with his content there so he can money off them.

Em8er releasing on steam as a porn game was pretty funny. It amazes me he didn't file copyright during the ~8 years he was working on the thing

 

[PeteBull]

People on that "fight" do for the thrill, not to win. They don't consume anything for enjoyment anymore. Rage baiting is their enjoyment. You can see in this very topic. There should be a way to stop people from discussing games they never played.

Imagine only 25k of losers who purchased concord are only ones allowed to discuss this biggest bomba of the game, no1 else is

 

[Indyblue]

I don't think most people give a fuck one way or the other. I have never once bought or not bought a game because the main character is or isn't a woman or if there is or isn't a gay person. I don't care. Most people didn't care, or most likely didn't even know that JK Rowling is anti-trans. They just like Harry Potter. The culture warriors, on both sides, are fighting a war with themselves that no one else gives a shit about.
For me, I would prefer that cultures and genders are represented as the developers see fit. Inclusion is cool. We are all just people trying to live in a shitty world. But it really doesn't matter to me when it comes to buying and playing a video game lol

 

[CokeDiet]

This culture war nonsense has to stop, at this point both side gone far beyond stupid.

I will say same thing to people who complain that characters are "too sexy".

Dont like it? Dont fucking buy it.....problem solved.

That makes sense but we always see these games and movies come out, flop and then the studios blame us for for not buying it. Calling us racist or misogynist or whatever.

Then there's the reviews, any bad reviews are clearly people review bombing, it couldn't be a case of them releasing a bad product.