Social anxiety-GAF: let's work on our anxiety together

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I don't know if this would help out here much, but it seems that for mild social anxiety, taking a magnesium supplement has helped me out greatly. Hasn't been obvious, but in situations with talking to people where normally my heart rate would increase and I'd get a little fidgety, I was quite calm and relaxed. Been taking 3 a day (morning/noon/night) on an empty stomach.

Doubt it would help a LOT of people in this thread, but it may be something to think about.

Have also started regularly dosing 5HTP as well, but I don't think that's helped as much as Mg.
 
interesting about the magnesium, I wonder if taking Creatine Magnesium Chelate used for working out would help with my anxiety.
 
FYI, it was Tri-magnesium citrate that I picked up. I'm a little surprised too. The bottle does say "muscle relaxant" as it's main selling point.

I don't know if that creatine thing would be enough, but this stuff was really cheap... about $13AU for 60 capsules. Can't hurt to give it a go... just make sure that after having it for a day or two, put yourself in situations where you might feel anxious (like talking to intimidating people or going out in large groups etc.).
 
I think I have a slight social anxiety. Not as extreme as a lot of people but I guess it's mostly just shyness. I get really quiet and awkward around new people. I stutter sometimes, I mumble, I overthink what I'm going to say next, and sometimes talk too fast out of nervousness. I've always been like that ever since I was a kid. Having my first job at a Starbucks in the middle of a busy city a few years ago certainly helped a lot, but I still avoid social interaction whenever I can.

However, since last week I signed up to be a greeter at a San Francisco church I've been visiting with a friend lately. Nothing too big. Just smile, say hi, pass out pamphlets, etc. The first time was a bit weird but I felt a bit better afterwards. The usual crowd is mostly college people so that kinda helps having people my age to talk to. I wanted to give myself a bit of a challenge and to overcome my apprehension of social interaction. Kinda hoping it also helps me meet new people and make some new friends.
 
Nice way to start the thread, OP! Graduated exposure is one of the main pillars of getting better from this affliction. There's a bunch of literature backing up your approach.

GalacticAE said:
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I don't think I've ever seen a more wrong answer to anything on the internet ever.

Well done sir.
 
moonspeak said:
I think I have a slight social anxiety. Not as extreme as a lot of people but I guess it's mostly just shyness. I get really quiet and awkward around new people. I stutter sometimes, I mumble, I overthink what I'm going to say next, and sometimes talk too fast out of nervousness. I've always been like that ever since I was a kid. Having my first job at a Starbucks in the middle of a busy city a few years ago certainly helped a lot, but I still avoid social interaction whenever I can.

I'm in a similar situation.

I don't have problems talking to new people but I've started stuttering again after a really busy semester with little to no social interactions. I'm getting better at it but I'll still occasionally stop mid-conversation, knowing what I want to say, but just unable to say it clearly.

That and sometimes when I walk around campus alone, I feel as though the people around me are focusing on me and judging my every move (irrational I know). Luckily, It completely goes away when I'm walking around with friends.
 
moonspeak said:
I think I have a slight social anxiety. Not as extreme as a lot of people but I guess it's mostly just shyness. I get really quiet and awkward around new people. I stutter sometimes, I mumble, I overthink what I'm going to say next, and sometimes talk too fast out of nervousness. I've always been like that ever since I was a kid. Having my first job at a Starbucks in the middle of a busy city a few years ago certainly helped a lot, but I still avoid social interaction whenever I can.

However, since last week I signed up to be a greeter at a San Francisco church I've been visiting with a friend lately. Nothing too big. Just smile, say hi, pass out pamphlets, etc. The first time was a bit weird but I felt a bit better afterwards. The usual crowd is mostly college people so that kinda helps having people my age to talk to. I wanted to give myself a bit of a challenge and to overcome my apprehension of social interaction. Kinda hoping it also helps me meet new people and make some new friends.

You sound like a normal person.
 
Not a good day today. I created a 10-page phone book for my grandpa that had numbers he wanted all in one handy place. My aunt called me today and told me that it had several typos and that she wanted me to e-mail her the the list so that she could fix them and not me. Once the conversation was done and I hung up, I just started crying my head off. I felt like such a complete failure and there was nothing I could do about it. I know this isn't a normal response but I just try so hard to make people happy but I always seem to fail.

Things like this seem to happen all the time. I just need to know if anyone here has tried therapy for their social anxiety and what the results were. At this point I think I need to do something about it. I went from having several good friends to NONE. I was homeschooled most of my life and I'm terrified of going to college because of the thought of talking in front of class or introducing myself (I've already decided to take a year off from school... I just hope I don't make the same decision next year). I work at my parent's shop but I'm about to find a job elsewhere and the thought of that scares the hell out of me.

My major problem is that I just can't carry on a conversation. After saying one sentence everything after that is a mess. When in a group I always have opinions and thoughts but I'm never able to actually say them.
 
In my third year of university, classes started a few days ago.

So the professor had asked us to talk about fields that we worked in related to our major, I was able to say the name of the company before choking. I'm glad she continued the conversation with the class and elaborated on what my company does for me, but some people caught on to my distress and started laughing at the word I uttered.

I felt like crap.

Then for another ice breaker, she had us talk to our neighbor. It just so happens my neighbor was a hot chick, I tried my best to avoid eye contact with her, and I looked very much like "I don't want to talk, please... Leave me alone!" but yet she just wouldn't have it so she broke the ice with me... GRRR!

The hot chick asked me if I was majoring or had a honors b.s.c. major, I told her I had the honors. And then I asked her about herself in a reluctant manner, and she said she juggles majors. I told her that was interesting, and turned around.

She clearly wanted to show the professor she could work in a group, and we also have a group project coming up too.

I also choked when answering a question in another class, my voice was like on 10%.

This summer I had a panic attack and was diagnosed with anxiety and TMJ, along with grinding my teeth during my sleep. xD

FML.
 
Bentendo said:
Not a good day today. I created a 10-page phone book for my grandpa that had numbers he wanted all in one handy place. My aunt called me today and told me that it had several typos and that she wanted me to e-mail her the the list so that she could fix them and not me. Once the conversation was done and I hung up, I just started crying my head off. I felt like such a complete failure and there was nothing I could do about it. I know this isn't a normal response but I just try so hard to make people happy but I always seem to fail.

Things like this seem to happen all the time. I just need to know if anyone here has tried therapy for their social anxiety and what the results were. At this point I think I need to do something about it. I went from having several good friends to NONE. I was homeschooled most of my life and I'm terrified of going to college because of the thought of talking in front of class or introducing myself (I've already decided to take a year off from school... I just hope I don't make the same decision next year). I work at my parent's shop but I'm about to find a job elsewhere and the thought of that scares the hell out of me.

My major problem is that I just can't carry on a conversation. After saying one sentence everything after that is a mess. When in a group I always have opinions and thoughts but I'm never able to actually say them.


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Not sure if this can be classified as social anxiety or not. But here goes...

I think it all started when was in 3rd grade. I was about to graduate and my home room instructor told my mom I should be held back because my social skills were not in standards at all. She told my mom that my academics were triple A but not my social skills. So the instructor pushed for me to be held back and I got held back for a grade. That not only was depressing but it didn't help my social skills at all. All it did was make it worse. I had friends through my early academic years. I only talked to those I wanted to talk to rather being open to everyone. When it came to oral presentations I would hesitate. I guess thats normal in the early years but this shit carried over into my middle and high school career. I had friends during this stage but again I was comfortable with those that had stuff in common with me rather than being social to those in my class that didn't have stuff in common. That's what I feel about 'popular' people. They are those that stand out and is in everyone life and is always positive. I couldn't be like that because I was picky choosie person.

When it came to eating lunch in high school if my friends were not at that lunch then I would leave and go to the library. I would skip lunch just because none of my friends were there and because I didn't know how to socialize or make new friends.

It's like when I'm in the "have to" position I do better. But when it's the position where its my choice, I don't fair well at all. The current college class I'm taking is Engine Repair and I don't know any of those people in my class but my instructor assigned us a partner for this engine project. Again I can socialize with this guy but when it comes to everyone else I'm extremely quiet. It's like I feel inferior to then for some reason.

I hate this feeling because it's hindering my progression in relationships and friendships I could of been in and could be in as I'm speaking.

I think a lot of it comes from my mother who herself is very negative when it comes to her friends. She has a selective few, so it seems like I adopted her perspective. I lived with her practically my whole life with no father figure at all. But I turned out alright as far as having a straight mindset and such. But I still feel her pushing her religion belief and her social skills on me has hinder my progression in life.

Again, in short I don't think I have the anxiety to an extent but I know I have some. I sweat a lot when I'm put on the spotlight or when people want to hear my opinion I think I will be criticized in a bad way so I shut up and not say anything at all. When a girl flirts with me I think I might flirt to much more and think she might fall back. 

It's like I try to think what's going on in other peoples head when I encounter them rather not than not giving a damn.

I don't know. Help would certainly be appreciated...
 
I used to suffer pretty bad social anxiety in school. One day when I was in a particularly bad spell my therapist took me to a shopping centre and forced me to spend half an hour asking strangers for the time. It sounds stupid now but I was absolutely petrified right up until the moment when I asked the first person. Since then I've never been anxious about talking to strangers.

Sometimes lttle things can be all you need to snap out of negative thought patterns. The longer you spend avoiding a situation the more you allow you perception of what it will be like to become distorted, and when you finally face your fear you realise that it really wasn't that bad at all.

Thankfully I'm much better now but it's taken a lot of work. Only once I'd been truely miserable did I finally start making real changes. Best wishes to everyone suffering with social anxieties I know how though it can be.
 
I like you Stabbie, the "not giving a fuck" thread is great.
Normal people don't understand that our anxiety happens mostly because we care too much what other people will say/think/do if we say something.
Ironically that attitude always backfires...
 
Baiano19 said:
I like you Stabbie, the "not giving a fuck" thread is great.
Normal people don't understand that our anxiety happens mostly because we care too much what other people will say/think/do if we say something.
Ironically that attitude always backfires...
Where is that thread located? I might want to check it out...
 
I'm gonna repost what I wrote in another thread about I have dealt with my anxiety:

Well, I basically had to force myself into social situations, which only came through getting a volunteer position/job. In the past I tried going to therapists, but I found I would just lie to them during our sessions. Not a full on WMD lie, but a little white lie with some element of truth, like for instance, "I tried going to the bookstore, but got within sight and had a panic attack. But I tried." The lie consisted of the fact that I never even tried going out, because just thinking about going outside and socializing would be a paralyzing thought. So for many years I did only the bare minimum of what I had to, going to class, getting groceries, etc. Hell, for like a year or two I couldn't even go to the grocery store, I was so crippled with anxiety (I ate all my meals on campus at that point). Anyway, I want to stress that it's a gradual process... I've been working on my social anxiety for years now, and even though it's hard to gauge success in this area there are things I can look back on not being able to do even a year or two ago.

Once I graduated college I guess I realized I had to do something that involved society, so I did volunteer work. That work was really beneficial for me, because I was working at a front desk, greeting people, answering phones, doing things that society requires of normal people. Things that a year or so ago I had no ability to do. Not that I particularly love doing any of these things (in fact I hate answer phones), but at least I can do it. But, as I started out, I had to force myself into this situation. There was really nothing else for me to do but get a job or start volunteering, and the barriers to entry are much lower for the latter. This was the most beneficial thing for me, regular human contact with some kind of purpose. I started out giving myself arbitrary tasks like "Go to a bookstore" or "Go to a new coffee shop, order something you've never had" but I could never meet those goals, I guess because I realized deep down their arbitrary nature. So I would either never do the exposures (and feel guilty) or do them and not feel much accomplishment. And the idea is to eventually "ramp up" your contact, like making your next task to actually talk to a stranger. Of course I never got to that step.

But as soon as I did something with a purpose, that involved regular, guaranteed contact (the volunteer position), I found my anxiety started to improve. Now I'm not perfect or anything but I've found a few months of doing this my anxiety has severely decreased. Like I can go to new places regularly, talk to strangers with a little more ease (I still need practice with this though), eat out at a restaurant or cafe by myself. I've always been an introvert and while I don't expect to become an extrovert any time soon, I have been able to either manage my anxiety much better. This all came from within, but it also came because I had very little options left. So there was more external pressure for me to change than my own internal motivation. As I say I was "forced" in a way to finally get out. But it worked better for me than my previous efforts, because I found a way of providing myself purposeful and guaranteed contact.

I don't know if this helps you or not, or if your situation is similar, but this has been my experience. Your experience with therapists, for instance, may vary. For me it ultimately came down to being forced to change... that's just what it takes for some people. Social anxiety is a learned response, so it takes a long time to unlearn it.
 
Skype helps alot with my accent anxiety. I have verbal/pronounce english tutoring at least once a week, most of my tutors have been really cool and comfortable to talk to. One was a straight up master roshi pervert that only revealed it 2 lessons in, but you run those kinds of risks. Since I've started using I've become a lot less stressful about how my english sounds. I still have my hurdles sometimes with more advanced conversations but I've all but mastered casual conversation and much of performance speech (presentations, theatre shows, etc.) at my pace, which is still much slower than a standard American, but I'll have to work on that last.

I don't have any kind of other social anxieties, its just this one that popped up fairly recently because I mostly did my speaking natively with my roomate until they moved out. Now that I haven't really met anyone native here I have to rely solely on English speech. I really, really love skype's language learning community and can't recommend it enough.
 
My simple advice to anyone battling anxiety is this. Face your fears. Anxiety is like a bully. The more you fear it, the more you back down from it, the stronger it becomes.

In other words, you need to defiantly do exactly what your anxiety tells you is so scary. This is the only true way to overcome your fears.

I know this sounds rather simple, because it is, but the old saying is supremely accurate. Face your fears. If going to the mall scares you, do it more often. After facing fears like that over time you come to realize how anxiety lies to you, deceives you. You'll begin to see that when you face the fears, and do the exact opposite of what you fear, nothing bad happens. Once this happens enough you'll be over the anxiety.
 
Baiano19 said:
I like you Stabbie, the "not giving a fuck" thread is great.
Normal people don't understand that our anxiety happens mostly because we care too much what other people will say/think/do if we say something.
Ironically that attitude always backfires...

Yeah it backfired for me. I'm giving way too many fucks again. But deep down the "not giving a fuck" attitude is something we all wish to achieve to some degree, right?
 
I don't talk to strangers in public besides "hi, hello, thanks, etc..." but I'm not scared of them either. I couldn't care less what most of them think.

I don't talk to people because I'm not interested in them :| My brain just doesn't understand why it's worth my few minutes to talk to some random person in front of me instead of proceeding to my next task.

With people who have similar interests I'll talk to them because maybe it'll lead to a new friend. With girls I find attractive I'll talk to them because maybe it'll lead to something. But the random guy/girl in line next to me at Starbucks? I'd rather read gaf on my phone and check out a humorous thread.

I know this makes me kind of an anti-social asshole. I should probably change this and start talking to strangers. But I can't feel the motivation to make the effort to do so. I don't feel it's social anxiety as much as it is social apathy.

Also I can talk to people at my job or wherever no problem. Sometimes when I'm buying something at a market or store I'll flirt with the guy/girl at the cash register unintentionally. It really is just random strangers out in public that I never speak to.
 
I have an important question. Are formal situations much easier than informal situations for some of you? I don't feel anxiety when I'm paying for my groceries, ordering a drink, talking to the doctor, etc. Anxiety kicks in when I face social situations that are a bit more informal/personal, when I should connect to people emotionally (even if it's superficial).
 
80 mg of Paxil and 300 mg Wellbutrin per day did wonders for me. Snapped me out of my constant severe anxiety instantly.

The side effects were way too strong though (extreme fatigue, inability to summon motivation, complete lack of any regular emotion), so after about 6 months I decreased the Paxil dosage. But the anxiety was like 98% gone.

At previous points in my life the highest medication I had been on was 40 mg of Paxil, which worked very well my first year of college. Things went well for a number of years, then a bunch of bad stuff happened in my life (breakup of 4 yr relationship, deaths, health issues), and my anxiety reached a new high. I was living in my apartment almost 24/7 for months, barely able to go out to buy food.

I couldn't handle standing in the checkout line....what the fuck am I supposed to do with my hands? Where am I supposed to look? What if anything should I say?

And stuff like this paralyzed me completely. Everyone was staring at me, everyone knew I was a loser for not having a job for almost a year.

I'm better now, due to finding a good balance of drugs along with improving physical health situation...but the anxiety isn't completely gone: it's just a 4 where before it was a 10.

Oh, and Xanax/Ativan (any benzo class drug) works extremely well for situations where you know your anxiety will go through the roof.
 
Stabbie said:
I have an important question. Are formal situations much easier than informal situations for some of you? I don't feel anxiety when I'm paying for my groceries, ordering a drink, talking to the doctor, etc. Anxiety kicks in when I face social situations that are a bit more informal/personal, when I should connect to people emotionally (even if it's superficial).

Both bother me, but informal more so.

I hated paying for groceries because I had no idea what to say, do with my hands, where to look, etc.

I hated informal social situations even more because those situations have the potential to really embarrass myself in front of people I actually know and care about.

So yeah, informal situations are worse.
 
Hey TekkenMaster, I'm glad it worked well for you! I've tried Wellbutrin a few years ago and it gave me suicidal thoughts.
 
Stabbie said:
Hey TekkenMaster, I'm glad it worked well for you! I've tried Wellbutrin a few years ago and it gave me suicidal thoughts.

I always got suicidal thoughts when decreasing my Paxil dose, especially when I decreased too quickly.

The high dose of Wellbutrin extended release gave me involuntary spasms/twitches in my arms and legs for a few months before I had to drop the dose.

But I never got suidical thoughts from the WB....or maybe the suicidal thoughts from the Paxil overwhelmed any thoughts caused by the WB.
 
Stabbie said:
I have an important question. Are formal situations much easier than informal situations for some of you? I don't feel anxiety when I'm paying for my groceries, ordering a drink, talking to the doctor, etc. Anxiety kicks in when I face social situations that are a bit more informal/personal, when I should connect to people emotionally (even if it's superficial).
If you have bad anxiety paying for groceries, you're pretty bad off. Greeting a cashier is a lot easier for me than approaching someone new and greeting them because I have reason to be there and a lot of practice paying for things. Small talk has a lot of anxiety for me with a Cashier tho, while small talk with a new coworker doesn't if you're supposed to work near them. I guess because it's normal/natural for you to leave fast, while it's normal for you to be near the new coworker. Now if it's a work environment where there's no reason for us to ever talk or work near each other, then there's anxiety involved.

There's proof in there that practice eases anxiety.
 
TekkenMaster said:
Both bother me, but informal more so.

I hated paying for groceries because I had no idea what to say, do with my hands, where to look, etc.

I hated informal social situations even more because those situations have the potential to really embarrass myself in front of people I actually know and care about.

So yeah, informal situations are worse.

I guess the fact that I learned what to say in formal situations might have helped me with that. I have developed some sort of routine for situations such as paying for groceries. Be sure to say good morning or hello, say "here you go" when you hand out money and "thank you" when you receive change and your receipt. That has helped me tremendously as I've noticed most people say nothing which is pretty rude imo. Being polite can help you gain confidence in formal situations.
 
DeathNote said:
If you have bad anxiety paying for groceries, you're pretty bad off. Greeting a cashier is a lot easier for me than approaching someone new and greeting them because I have reason to be there and a lot of practice paying for things. Small talk has a lot of anxiety for me with a Cashier tho, while small talk with a new coworker doesn't if you're supposed to work near them. I guess because it's normal/natural for you to leave fast, while it's normal for you to be near the new coworker. Now if it's a work environment where there's no reason for us to ever talk or work near each other, then there's anxiety involved.

There's proof in there that practice eases anxiety.

I have no problems with greets...I just don't know what to say next. I just suck at smalltalk in those artificial situations like the grocery line, or talking to the guy/woman at the post office, etc.

It seems like almost every other customer somehow knows the cashier/postman personally, and they share laughs, give updates, etc.

But I don't know them, and everyone is rushed, and the cashier/postman are always obviously tired. But everyone else in line is talking to them, so you feel like you have to as well.

Stabbie said:
I guess the fact that I learned what to say in formal situations might have helped me with that. I have developed some sort of routine for situations such as paying for groceries. Be sure to say good morning or hello, say "here you go" when you hand out money and "thank you" when you receive change and your receipt. That has helped me tremendously as I've noticed most people say nothing which is pretty rude imo. Being polite can help you gain confidence in formal situations.

There's always interminable pauses between the initial "hello" and the final "here you go" and "have a good day/night."

It's what to say while he/she is scanning stuff for two minutes.
 
DeathNote said:
If you have bad anxiety paying for groceries, you're pretty bad off. Greeting a cashier is a lot easier for me than approaching someone new and greeting them because I have reason to be there and a lot of practice paying for things. Small talk has a lot of anxiety for me with a Cashier tho, while small talk with a new coworker doesn't if you're supposed to work near them. I guess because it's normal/natural for you to leave fast, while it's normal for you to be near the new coworker. Now if it's a work environment where there's no reason for us to ever talk or work near each other, then there's anxiety involved.

There's proof in there that practice eases anxiety.

That's exactly what I have too.
 
Saying "Hi" is awkward to someone you don't know.

Saying "Hi, how's it going" is not. It also throws the ball on the other person to participate. If they don't want to talk, they'll just say "Hi". If they feel like bullshitting they'll say "I'm doing alright, yourself". "I'm doing fantastics, because my balls are big, and my cock is beautiful". There's a certain flow to the conversation.

It's a back and forth.

The next time you see the cashier, they'll be all "How are the cock and balls?" and that's your repertoire.
 
TekkenMaster said:
I have no problems with greets...I just don't know what to say next. I just suck at smalltalk in those artificial situations like the grocery line, or talking to the guy/woman at the post office, etc.

It seems like almost every other customer somehow knows the cashier/postman personally, and they share laughs, give updates, etc.

But I don't know them, and everyone is rushed, and the cashier/postman are always obviously tired. But everyone else in line is talking to them, so you feel like you have to as well.
Greetings depend on the person for me. If i'm walking past some older woman or man exiting an elevator chances or I'll say a greeting because we look at each other and are near each other.

If the doors opens and I see a goddess, chances are I wont say shit.
 
hi gaf,

i recently started a new job in newark, nj. i drive an hour and twenty minutes to get there every day. another option for me is to take the train but i am really claustrophobic. first day on the job i attempted to take the train from Metro Park but I immediately exited the train after stepping on. I was overcome with incredible anxiety and fear and had to leave. I have been on trains before and have tolerated them but this time was worse than ever. The drive in the morning and at night is starting to get to me and I want to take the train but I am so afraid of panicking. I will be surrounded by strangers and if I start panicking I will literally have nowhere to go. I get terrible fear of being stuck inside of a train with no escape - windows are shut, people are right next to you and if you have an emergency or panic you can't get off. why am I like this? I hate being like this. It just makes my life harder. Why can't i just sit on the train and relax like everyone else. I would love to just sit there and nap or watch something on an iPad or listen to music. Everyone else tells me how much they love the train .. any tips, GAF?
 
TekkenMaster said:
There's always interminable pauses between the initial "hello" and the final "here you go" and "have a good day/night."

It's what to say while he/she is scanning stuff for two minutes.

I fill my bags. Usually they scan the stuff faster than I can bag it.

You've got baggers in the US though. We don't have that anywhere in Europe.
 
xelios said:
I feel attractive and that I also have a nice body. I like a lot of things about myself (eyes, teeth/smile etc). But without meds I still go into panic mode outside the house. :( It's nothing to do with what other people think of me but seems to be more like a self-preservation mechanism kicking in.

Could be worse I guess and I could be one of those people where nothing seems to help.

I know that feel all too well
 
SolKane, that was an awesome read. Your solution is like the solution I want to do. And that is to 'force' yourself into the situation. It's not that you don't want to be in social activities but that you want to but you need to be forced.

I have the say feeling when I'm at work. If they have someone new coming to the job. My boss would select me to walk the interviewee around and I'm pissed at that point. But once the introduction happens everything flows from there and it's perfectly normal.

I just think it's harder to start the social situation. But once I'm forced into it and I'm there. I'm comfortable as can be.

I had my first bar/club experience a few weeks ago. I was freaking out on the days leading up to the event. And once the event took place and I went to the dance floor. I was cool and meant a few girls. Granted it was my first time so I didn't talk to many but the aspect that I was out there and I forced myself in the situation and went to the dance floor it helped me out!
 
Saw a doctor a few weeks ago and just got my medication in the mail the other day. 1 month's worth of Paxil 20mg. That doesn't seem like much but this is also the first time I've taken anything like this. I really hope I see changes in a few weeks.

I think I might have some sort of depression. I just graduated last month and have been trying to look at further education/jobs/intern but I just have no motivation to do so, and no career sounds interesting to me. Nothing excites me. Or could just be laziness. So I hope this medication might help a bit with that too.
 
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