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Sonic Boom Fire & Ice Announced, 3DS, Sanzaru, Winter 2015, TV show successful
- Thread starter JoeM86
- Start date
Hey Neogaf!
It's been ages. Sorry for not posting sooner.
As some of you may have heard, I'm back at SEGA now. When they let me out of the cage, I even get to post about Sonic on the Facebooks and the Twitters and across the internets.
Today, I got totally free and I got to post this news about Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice. So far, It's a pretty solid game butSean Bean dies in the last cutscene. I am sorry, Sean Bean.
Real talk, though: notable changes to the formula this time over last year. I've been clarifying this around the net, but didn't want to forget you guys:
- No Wii U version this year (and no infinite Knuckles jump)
- Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is being built by Sanzaru, who made Shattered Crystal last year.
- While Shattered Crystal was definitely the stronger of the two titles, there was still a fair bit that the teams wanted to change and improve. This time around, they're putting a lot of effort into taking fan and press feedback and building from it.
As an example, a key complaint last time around was that the levels felt too large, and took too long to complete. Levels this time around are being streamlined to play much faster, and the pacing has also been adjusted to match.
There's a lot more to talk about on this one, but I humbly offer myself to the wolves in order to help answer your questions and say hello. As long as your question isn't "Sega y u do dis", and I can respond, I'll do my best to jump in!
- Aaron
This particular aspect is important to me and I'm glad they are working from feedback.
Will this game play more like a traditional Sonic with the hidden collectibles being a bonus, or is finding stuff to unlock new areas still a big part of the level design? Also, anything you can tell us about the soundtrack?
Except that Shattered Crystal, wasn't downported from anything to 3DS and it wasn't that great in comparison to Rise of Lyric it was good but you don't need much for that. Rise of Lyric was ill-conceived from the beginning.
sixteen-bit
Member
Is that Blue N3DSXL from the trailer coming stateside?
Hey Neogaf!
It's been ages. Sorry for not posting sooner.
As some of you may have heard, I'm back at SEGA now. When they let me out of the cage, I even get to post about Sonic on the Facebooks and the Twitters and across the internets.
Today, I got totally free and I got to post this news about Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice. So far, It's a pretty solid game butSean Bean dies in the last cutscene. I am sorry, Sean Bean.
Real talk, though: notable changes to the formula this time over last year. I've been clarifying this around the net, but didn't want to forget you guys:
- No Wii U version this year (and no infinite Knuckles jump)
- Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is being built by Sanzaru, who made Shattered Crystal last year.
- While Shattered Crystal was definitely the stronger of the two titles, there was still a fair bit that the teams wanted to change and improve. This time around, they're putting a lot of effort into taking fan and press feedback and building from it.
As an example, a key complaint last time around was that the levels felt too large, and took too long to complete. Levels this time around are being streamlined to play much faster, and the pacing has also been adjusted to match.
There's a lot more to talk about on this one, but I humbly offer myself to the wolves in order to help answer your questions and say hello. As long as your question isn't "Sega y u do dis", and I can respond, I'll do my best to jump in!
- Aaron
Here's some feedback: Don't.
Seriously, it doesn't look any different from SC apart from the fire and ice gimmick. You guys had to know the response this game was going to get.
gamerguy2002
Member
Hey Neogaf!
It's been ages. Sorry for not posting sooner.
As some of you may have heard, I'm back at SEGA now. When they let me out of the cage, I even get to post about Sonic on the Facebooks and the Twitters and across the internets.
Today, I got totally free and I got to post this news about Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice. So far, It's a pretty solid game butSean Bean dies in the last cutscene. I am sorry, Sean Bean.
Real talk, though: notable changes to the formula this time over last year. I've been clarifying this around the net, but didn't want to forget you guys:
- No Wii U version this year (and no infinite Knuckles jump)
- Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is being built by Sanzaru, who made Shattered Crystal last year.
- While Shattered Crystal was definitely the stronger of the two titles, there was still a fair bit that the teams wanted to change and improve. This time around, they're putting a lot of effort into taking fan and press feedback and building from it.
As an example, a key complaint last time around was that the levels felt too large, and took too long to complete. Levels this time around are being streamlined to play much faster, and the pacing has also been adjusted to match.
There's a lot more to talk about on this one, but I humbly offer myself to the wolves in order to help answer your questions and say hello. As long as your question isn't "Sega y u do dis", and I can respond, I'll do my best to jump in!
- Aaron
Okay first off, Sega y u do dis?!?!
Couldn't be helped :v
Second, Can you tell us about any more key changes that were made? I know there was more then just the exploration bit that was complained about. also, I really hope they made an effort to make 100% collecting an actual reward instead of a chore that gave us nothing at the end (a dance party? seriously?!) Hell a cheat mode would be nice to those who 100%'d the game. and please no hard mode at 100%, lets not pull a sonic heroes again.
Third and totally unrelated but figured I'd ask since you are here, do you know if the "Consumer Design Development Division" of SEGA still exists? (underlined part important because theirs an unrelated Consumer Development Division) any SEGA preferably, I'm asking for an old SOJ employee (no joke, bumped into him on Kotaku a few days ago) I'd like to know if his old division he used to work for exists still or is completely dissolved.
Thanks for answering.
Hey Neogaf!
It's been ages. Sorry for not posting sooner.
As some of you may have heard, I'm back at SEGA now. When they let me out of the cage, I even get to post about Sonic on the Facebooks and the Twitters and across the internets.
Today, I got totally free and I got to post this news about Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice. So far, It's a pretty solid game butSean Bean dies in the last cutscene. I am sorry, Sean Bean.
Real talk, though: notable changes to the formula this time over last year. I've been clarifying this around the net, but didn't want to forget you guys:
- No Wii U version this year (and no infinite Knuckles jump)
- Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is being built by Sanzaru, who made Shattered Crystal last year.
- While Shattered Crystal was definitely the stronger of the two titles, there was still a fair bit that the teams wanted to change and improve. This time around, they're putting a lot of effort into taking fan and press feedback and building from it.
As an example, a key complaint last time around was that the levels felt too large, and took too long to complete. Levels this time around are being streamlined to play much faster, and the pacing has also been adjusted to match.
There's a lot more to talk about on this one, but I humbly offer myself to the wolves in order to help answer your questions and say hello. As long as your question isn't "Sega y u do dis", and I can respond, I'll do my best to jump in!
- Aaron
I have a few question.
-Does this game play like a traditional Sonic game or is it more of the same thing as the last game?
-Do I need to hold a run button to make Sonic run?
-Can I just play as Sonic and not as anybody else?
-Any chance of a good Sonic game on the Wii U?
-Will the Knuckles glitch be in the game? ;p
-Bonus Question: What is Sonic Team up to? >_> <_< >_>
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Thanks for coming back Ruby. I have a few questions.
Is collecting do-dads still the primary goal or secondary?
Is it a longer game than the very short Shattered Crystal?
Who writes the story?
Are the bot races similar to the Rival races in the first game.
Is D-Fect in the same robot series as Orbot and Cubot?
Are the unlockables better this time? I hated those trophies.
Any streetpass features?
Is this game the rumored "Sonic Mach 2"?
Is collecting do-dads still the primary goal or secondary?
Is it a longer game than the very short Shattered Crystal?
Who writes the story?
Are the bot races similar to the Rival races in the first game.
Is D-Fect in the same robot series as Orbot and Cubot?
Are the unlockables better this time? I hated those trophies.
Any streetpass features?
Is this game the rumored "Sonic Mach 2"?
Laevateinn
Member
Saw the trailer on Nintendo's youtube, it doesn't actually look that bad.
Yeah, same here I suppose.
Hopefully it'll be Generations 2 or something next year. It'll be the 25th Anniversary after all.
RubyEclipse
Sega of America
Thank you for posting here
Great to hear that Sanzaru is taking feedback from the community, press and fans from the heart, leading to a stronger game this fall.
If you can answer this, that would be really cool of you: how is the collection system in Fire and Ice? What I mean, is that do you have to collect X amount of things to unlock the final level or is it like past Sonic tittles where you just have to clear the level to progress the game.
Thank you for your time and welcome to NeoGaf
My understanding is that collectibles are optional, and I'm confirming this now with the team. (So, once you clear a level, you'll be able to move on to the next one.)
Thanks for the welcome and the kindly worded question - my time here goes back years, but it's good to be back.
I won't!
Promise.You have no idea how much I want to see that game release, personally. I have a 200 HUnewearl from PSOBB and I played every single iteration of that game since Dreamcast V1. Sadly, no news on it from my side. Just know I feel you!
The focus is definitely more on a faster experience this time around. Collectibles are optional and unlock some neat things as you progress.
The soundtrack is being composed by someone you're probably familiar with - Richard Jacques! The music in our announcement trailer was done by Hyper Potions, who happen to be fellow Sonic fans.
To Far Away Times
Member
If Sonic Boom can get a sequel I guess we can't rule out sequels to Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog as well.
Very late, but...
Hm, doesn't ring any bells.
GoldandBlue
Member
Sonic 06 and Shadow were Adventure sequels, why would they suddenly make a sequel to those?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
This game is made by Sanzaru, who has nothing to do with Sonic Generations. This game wouldn't have impact the development of Sonic Generations (2) by Sonic Team at all.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Hey Neogaf!
It's been ages. Sorry for not posting sooner.
As some of you may have heard, I'm back at SEGA now. When they let me out of the cage, I even get to post about Sonic on the Facebooks and the Twitters and across the internets.
Today, I got totally free and I got to post this news about Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice. So far, It's a pretty solid game butSean Bean dies in the last cutscene. I am sorry, Sean Bean.
Real talk, though: notable changes to the formula this time over last year. I've been clarifying this around the net, but didn't want to forget you guys:
- No Wii U version this year (and no infinite Knuckles jump)
- Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is being built by Sanzaru, who made Shattered Crystal last year.
- While Shattered Crystal was definitely the stronger of the two titles, there was still a fair bit that the teams wanted to change and improve. This time around, they're putting a lot of effort into taking fan and press feedback and building from it.
As an example, a key complaint last time around was that the levels felt too large, and took too long to complete. Levels this time around are being streamlined to play much faster, and the pacing has also been adjusted to match.
There's a lot more to talk about on this one, but I humbly offer myself to the wolves in order to help answer your questions and say hello. As long as your question isn't "Sega y u do dis", and I can respond, I'll do my best to jump in!
- Aaron
I am interested in hearing more about the fire and ice thing for this game...perhaps you can talk about about the new features?
RubyEclipse
Sega of America
... I wouldn't hold your breath for those.
Totally!
You'll have the powers of both Fire and Ice in the game that you can toggle between by hitting the shoulder buttons. You can toggle these on the fly, mid-run, as often as you want.
Within the levels, you'll find elemental blocks and interactable components that you can adjust depending on which of the elemental powers you have on. As you can see in the trailer, you can melt ice blocks with fire, or freeze water blocks with ice, etc. It's all pretty simple early-on, and gets more complex as you progress.
Purely 3DS with this one!
Thanks for getting back to me! Glad to hear Jacques is doing the music again
Hero of Legend
Member
Any comment about Wii U that you can make? It is telling that there's no Wii U Boom 2 game, and I'm referring to something Sonic-related hopefully being in its place on Wii U. Please?
My understanding is that collectibles are optional, and I'm confirming this now with the team. (So, once you clear a level, you'll be able to move on to the next one.)
Thanks for the welcome and the kindly worded question - my time here goes back years, but it's good to be back.
Thank you for answering back
. Its nice to know that the collection system is being more rewarding; this would lead exploration into something far more rewarding them to just unlock the final boss and some random dancing. Great pick for trailer music, as it sounds great and it feels like a natural fit for Sonic.
Sanzaru is a great pick for a developer and they know how to make improvements on a game (check out Sly 3 and 4 if you have the time; the team worked really hard in fixing Sly 3 when making Sly 4), so I have high hopes they fix everything that was wrong with Shatter Crystal and in turn make a fun Sonic game
. And welcome back to NeoGaf
.
mrmickfran
Member
Even Sega has given up on the Wii U.
That mechanic reminds me of a game called Outlast; where you use 'Light' (Blue) and 'Evil' (Red) powers with the tap of the shoulder buttons. That mirrors what you guys are trying to pull with Fire & Ice (but that being more 'speedly' with you doing it in rapid succession).
Oh, and one last question. If you can answer this, do you and Sanzaru plan on porting Fire & Ice to Wii U? Because the game would be a natural fit on the console (the bigger touch screen, ability to switch characters with the extra shoulder buttons, ect).
LightningXCE
Member
Woah woah WOAH THIS IS KINDA IMPORTANT
Life isn't fair , This gets greenlit and PSO2 NA release cant
PSO2 might be a good game and selling good games isn't how Sega rolls these days. It's much better to shit out another horrible Sonic Boom game instead.
RubyEclipse
Sega of America
Thank you for answering back
Great pick for trailer music, as it sounds great and it feels like a natural fit for Sonic.
Sanzaru is a great pick for a developer and they know how to make improvements on a game (check out Sly 3 and 4 if you have the time; the team worked really hard in fixing Sly 3 when making Sly 4), so I have high hopes they fix everything that was wrong with Shatter Crystal and in turn make a fun Sonic game
And welcome back to NeoGaf
You're very welcome! Glad you liked the trailer music, too. I'm a big fan of Hyper Potions, and we thought it was a perfect fit. Those guys deserve a lot more recognition.
The team at Sanzaru are also really great people. I would comment more about them, but I'll sum it up by simply saying that every time I've met them in meetings, at shows like E3, etc, they've been a pleasure to talk to, and are truly dedicated to what they do.
No plans to port the title currently. Good question, though!
Indeed it is! We're pretty excited to have Richard working on this one. (My memories of his work date back to this OST, which is still one of my favorites.)
Laevateinn
Member
I'm definitely buying this now.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
... I wouldn't hold your breath for those.
Totally!
You'll have the powers of both Fire and Ice in the game that you can toggle between by hitting the shoulder buttons. You can toggle these on the fly, mid-run, as often as you want.
Within the levels, you'll find elemental blocks and interactable components that you can adjust depending on which of the elemental powers you have on. As you can see in the trailer, you can melt ice blocks with fire, or freeze water blocks with ice, etc. It's all pretty simple early-on, and gets more complex as you progress.
Purely 3DS with this one!
I am assuming there will be character-specific fire/ice skills too then? I am interested to see how these powers will come into play with the boss fights now.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
YEEEESSS!! This is the most important aspect for me. I like hunting for collectibles, but when it's a mandatory thing, it ruins the gameplay for me.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I'm glad to hear the fire and ice powers are something you can switch between rather than some gimmicky thing like the Wisps. I'm still very skeptical but hoping for the best.
Forgive me if this has already been answered but can you beat the game by just playing as Sonic in this one?
Totally unrelated but do you think the GBA/DS Sonics will appear on Wii U Virtual Console any time soon?
Forgive me if this has already been answered but can you beat the game by just playing as Sonic in this one?
Totally unrelated but do you think the GBA/DS Sonics will appear on Wii U Virtual Console any time soon?
Lord Malachite
Member
This so much. I know Sanzaru needs work to stay afloat but if Sony won't give them Sly 5 despite the epic setup for it, I fear that some good days are behind us.
Claude Augario
Member
Don't worry, there should be a Sonic Team game soon enough to add to the torture.
Aaron Strife
Banned
We already got one - Sonic Runners! Mobile future, baby!
(I've heard it's decent)
For all we know, they have two teams; a smaller one working on Fire & Ice with the bigger team making a Sly tittle to match the upcoming film. They have had a lot of time to make it too (with last year having them make two Vita ports and Shattered Crystal), so I have hope they are also making Sly 5 alongside this new Boom game.
I say if Sony doesn't announce it by Gamescom or PSX, then worry about the game, but for now, I have hope they will announce it this year (and what better place then E3? After all, Ratchet PS4 is bound to be shown off, so having a Sly 5 trailer coming after it would be great).
Edit: GameExplain uploaded a video discussing their reaction to Sonic Boom Fire & Ice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L06JbcKM8mU
They have a lot of hope for the game and they see promise in the tittle
. Cobanermani456 also posted his reactions to the game trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNOHGbh5zKc
Hey Neogaf!
It's been ages. Sorry for not posting sooner.
As some of you may have heard, I'm back at SEGA now. When they let me out of the cage, I even get to post about Sonic on the Facebooks and the Twitters and across the internets.
Today, I got totally free and I got to post this news about Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice. So far, It's a pretty solid game butSean Bean dies in the last cutscene. I am sorry, Sean Bean.
Real talk, though: notable changes to the formula this time over last year. I've been clarifying this around the net, but didn't want to forget you guys:
- No Wii U version this year (and no infinite Knuckles jump)
- Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is being built by Sanzaru, who made Shattered Crystal last year.
- While Shattered Crystal was definitely the stronger of the two titles, there was still a fair bit that the teams wanted to change and improve. This time around, they're putting a lot of effort into taking fan and press feedback and building from it.
As an example, a key complaint last time around was that the levels felt too large, and took too long to complete. Levels this time around are being streamlined to play much faster, and the pacing has also been adjusted to match.
There's a lot more to talk about on this one, but I humbly offer myself to the wolves in order to help answer your questions and say hello. As long as your question isn't "Sega y u do dis", and I can respond, I'll do my best to jump in!
- Aaron
Hi dude welcome back.
Can you comment on when Sonic Runners will leave Canada? I keep hearing it's pretty good for a mobile game.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Sanzaru why you no work on Sly
jk...... maybe
Your sentiments are echoed by many.
This isn't sarcasm, this seems to have been met with disdain on many sites.
That is false, for a buncha reasons. The only strait up sequel to the adventure games that was supposed to be a thing, was sonic unleashed.
hmmm.
Edit: GameExplain uploaded a video discussing their reaction to Sonic Boom Fire & Ice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L06JbcKM8mU
They have a lot of hope for the game and they see promise in the tittle
Cobanermani456 also posted his reactions to the game trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNOHGbh5zKc
lol the usual excuse of "it's for children" is being used in full force here. Newsflash: being for kids will never excuse a game for being shit.
Arc Christelle
Member
NO!
They were commenting on the Wii U game with that statement :l; the Wii U game is shit and they know that, they just don't hate the tittle as much as most of us. If I owned a Wii U and played the game....I would likely echo the same feelings of "Well....this isn't that good but it isn't horrid :l".
Tell me, why no?
I would imagine since sega decided that the show is the focus, which again is dumb for... and entirely different reason,and that they have shown with sonic products they make themselves let alone getting other studio's involved, they have no issue rushing this product to market. This being pushed even further because sonic boom and the show being the focus. Doesnt inspre confidence
Along with the, he might not like sonic boom man. I mean its funny but nothing happens in that show, and nothing will probably happen in this game, and odds are this game wont sell enough t have an effect on the show so whats the point.
Thats what I imagine a lot of peoples problems are anyway