Found a Mario Easter egg in the game by using knuckles and going into a building i wasn't supposed to
Where is it?
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Sonic Boom |OT| Sonic 2014
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Where is it?
James Scott
Banned
Near where the nurse is in Cliff's dig site. There's an enerbeam rail you can't ride. Knuckles hop to the left. It's one of those buildings near the water
Lord British
Member
I agree with you. I find Secret Rings almost literally unplayable.
Hyperbole much? It was easy for me from get go.
Anways back on to what it would take to make a good sonic game again.
People say follow up with Sonic adventure 3, but what does that mean?
Someone remind me again what made Sonic Adventure 2 so great? Was it good level designs? Variety of gameplay? Why didn't Sonic Generations or Color scratch that itch?
kunonabi
Member
Considering Black Knight tosses out everything good about Secret Rings and replaces it with nothing of value I would hope so.
I meant on your picture.
There's a wooden pipe and toadstool.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Sonic Adventure 2 is overrated garbage. Treasure hunting and mech shooting stages were mindblowingly awful and they made up the vast majority of the game. The speed stages weren't that good either and not even close to as good as Colours or Generations. Honestly I'd take SA1 and Heroes over SA2.
I think Secret Rings is a fairly decent game that uses the Wii's motion control rather well, whereas Black Knight often just feels completely mindless and I often find there's no depth to the gameplay besides waggling the Wii remote. I'd say Secret Rings is the better game.
I think what people like about the Adventure games that they don't like about Colours/Gens is the character movement is less about purely going fast and has a fair bit of platforming included (no boost and all that) and more effort went into the storyline and world. Obviously Colours and Generations are far superior, though. I don't think Sonic Adventure 2 is really that good at all.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
Member
Am I wrong fro wanting Nintendo EAD to make a Sonic game
BodiesWithoutOrgans
Member
oh Sonic I Love You Y U NO LOVE ME BACKMauricio_Magus
Banned
Mexico's biggest game store is lying about the games metacritic score, maybe they do it for others games but I didn't really check. I don't like metacritic, but I think it's BS to lie to your customers in any way or form.
Poltergust
Member
I have to disagree with that. Black Knight had:
-Better controls (using motion controls to move Sonic in Secret Rings is absolutely terrible, waggling the Wiimote for attacking in Black Knight is at least functional)
-Far better music (I hate the Secret Rings soundtrack, while Black Knight is probably top 5 in terms of Sonic soundtracks)
-Better level design and missions (Secret Rings had a ton of monotonous "filler" missions that you had to do, while the majority of missions in the story mode of Black Knight are simple "get to the end" ones)
-Better boss battles (Secret Rings was generally OK in this regard, but Black Knight had boss battles that were actually fun, particularly the knights)
-Better presentation (in terms of cutscenes and voice acting, which is probably the strongest showing by the 4Kids voice actors)
-Better stat progression (Sonic doesn't ever feel pathetically slow like he does in the beginning of Secret Rings, for example)
-Multiple playable characters (and optional, too)
Honestly, the only thing I think that Secret Rings did better was with how it did enemies. There are way too many of them in Black Knight, so it breaks the pacing quite a bit. At least you can quickly cut them down, though.
Oh, and the party mode. The battle mode in Black Knight is a lot more boring in comparison.
I agree with these two. But Secret Rings does have some decent tracks. And then it has place rocking. I dunno, I'm a sucker for cheesy lyrical soundtracks. They're either catchy as hell or hilariously bad.
Boss battles, I'd absolutely disagree on. I thought Black Knight's bosses were bloody awful and Secret Rings had some fun fights, especially its final boss.
The_Intruder
Member
Poltergust
Member
I am too! Just not in the way that Secret Rings did it. Most of the tracks did not fit the level they were in at all. I also disliked the main theme (while I like pretty much all of the vocal tracks in Black Knight).
I'm also a huge fan of classical music, so once Black Knight broke out the string instruments for most of its tracks, I instantly fell in love with it.
I can listen to the Blacksmith theme all day and never get sick of it.
Actually most of the filler missions in Secret Rings are optional, the game only expects certain missions to progress. If you know which ones you cut out something around 1/2-3/4 of the overall missions. Some of the worlds require you to only do one of the missions to move on, and half of them need no more than 3. I guess its still a knock against the game since it never illuminates this.
Azure Dream
Member
The problem with Secret Rings is that it starts you out with really sucky stats (like Unleashed, but worse), you can't do half of the things that were shown in the trailers, and it gets frustrating.
Once you upgrade yourself decently, and wrap your mind around the controls (which while weird, were a nice effort do something different after the series copy-pasted Adventure mechanics for four or five titles prior), the game starts to be much more fun. And you even upgrade to have abilities you don't expect to exist, like being able to flip over walls in the way. I think it helps to like rail games like Star Fox and Sin & Punishment, where you're given a set track and have to work within that track.
It's just too bad that once you beat the game, the best way to grind exp is to defeat the normal final boss over. And over. And over.
Once you upgrade yourself decently, and wrap your mind around the controls (which while weird, were a nice effort do something different after the series copy-pasted Adventure mechanics for four or five titles prior), the game starts to be much more fun. And you even upgrade to have abilities you don't expect to exist, like being able to flip over walls in the way. I think it helps to like rail games like Star Fox and Sin & Punishment, where you're given a set track and have to work within that track.
It's just too bad that once you beat the game, the best way to grind exp is to defeat the normal final boss over. And over. And over.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
The best thing to come out of this game.
I love this!
Diablohead
Member
Found a Mario Easter egg in the game by using knuckles and going into a building i wasn't supposed to
Hard to say if they are easter eggs or not, they look like unfinished/untextured model parts for the houses.
Played some with friends today, we got to "38%", and holy crap is this game ever a busted mess. In addition to being a terrible design that's a pain to navigate, the way the game goes nuts and looks like it's having a glitchy breakdown if you go through the door's into the central village area is insane. Probably caused by the nuts, incredibly busted system of warping that occurs in two player and is easily one of the most broken things about the game.
Deep Woods is my favourite track. One thing that really stuck me about Black Knight was how good the presentation was, with its stylistic cutscenes, menus, great soundtrack and impressive (for Wii) in-game visuals. Almost made me feel bad for disliking everything about the gameplay.
That is amazing.
No the weird framerate stuttering going through the village entrances happens in single player too
Well that's a shame. We legitimately thought the game had broken the first few times it occurred, it was so jumpy and broken visually. Thought maybe the terrible, awful teleportation stuff may have been involved since it messes so much up already, but guess not then, huh.
Oh, and just out of curiosity: for us, the first cutscene where Eggman and Lyric meet up had no voices. Did we hit a glitch or does that always happen? Also, how are you "supposed" to solve the one area where you're pushing a minecart with a spring on it across a track, till you get to a swampy area and then you have to split into Sonic and Knuckles paths to get them across to enerbeam it over? Sonic's path is easy enough, but Knuckles' area seemed like something was missing. To the left was a pipe you couldn't jump into, and to the right was just an area with some rings and a chest that ended with you falling to the beginning of the track. Eventually the person playing Knuckles accidentally feel into the swamp and the respawn glitched them to the other side and we didn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but I'm legitimately curious as to what we were missing.
Arc Christelle
Member
saw this on miiverse. Tails face tho.
No kidding. I wanted to like it, but once I beat it, I couldn't bring myself to touch it again
I bought Black Knight day one, and that's not a mistake I'll repeat. I still have the soundtrack on my MP3 player, though!
Sega has amazing and brilliant artists and creative people. Their programmers/management are atrocious though.
Agent Unknown
Member
Played it at a friend's. Terrible, busted mess.
Anyone in any kind of position at Nintendo reeeealllly ought to be picking up the phone to have a special and frank little conversation with Sega right now about how their first two exclusive Sonic games have been handled so far.
Think I will play some Colors or Generations in an attempt to erase this game from my memory.
Anyone in any kind of position at Nintendo reeeealllly ought to be picking up the phone to have a special and frank little conversation with Sega right now about how their first two exclusive Sonic games have been handled so far.
Think I will play some Colors or Generations in an attempt to erase this game from my memory.
We're talking about music now? I actually like a lot of the music in Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric. It is not at all fitting for Sonic, but I do like how atmospheric and relaxing it is. Some of it is too atmospheric I've noticed. When you're in a dark red area there is some really depressing sounding music playing. Must make you feel even worse when your trying to drag yourself through that borefest of a game.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
jack_package_200
Banned
kunonabi
Member
Secret Rings is far more involved gameplay wise and I'll take that over improved voice acting and cutscenes any day.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Did Huelen10 ever report back on this game? He seems to have gone silent...
That said..
What have I done
That said..
What have I done
Part of my buy one get one free at Target, so not a total loss.
Arc Christelle
Member
You know, once you actually ignore that this is a Sonic show, and everything related to Sonic, the show's mildly funny.
Will this be the legacy of Internet comics?
Chezzymann
Member
Shouldnt they be sued for class advertisement or something? Thats kind of blatant. I'm not familiar with Mexico's laws though...
How easy is it to replicate this glitch? There's no way nothing special was done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azHvBpl8zU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azHvBpl8zU0
petethepanda
Member
I'd buy a Tron skin DLC.
James Scott
Banned
I haven't seen it occur normally yet, only when flying as Knuckles
Did typing this not trigger even the slightest moment of self reflection?
It actually is DLC, but so far it's only pre-order DLC.
The_Intruder
Member
The most funny thing in this video is the game score dropped.....to 2006.
I've been watching a few playthroughs by various people and I didn't see anything like this either. It would make sense if the player was abusing Knuckles since one glitch could potentially cause another like with you. But, that's unfortunately not the case here.
I'm kind of enjoying the show. Eggman's reverse-firefighter robot got a laugh out of me.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm not familiar with it either, I sent the store's twitter account some messages but they don't give a fuck.
Maybe they went over the loading zone with Knuckles' infinite jump. That's how I got a similar glitch where parts of the town didn't load.
Poltergust
Member
It was a generalization, of course. The thing is, music like this gets drown out by...
...well, that.
In what way? Personally, I think the 4Kids VAs finally managed to come into their roles towards the tail end of the games involving them, starting with Unleashed.