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Sonic Adventure Generations
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Sonic Adventure Generations
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Sonic Generations |OT| What Sonic can learn from Sonic
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Aaron Strife
Banned
Rumors buzzing around 4chan from alleged Sega employees that new level DLC is on its way! They both gave vague descriptions that matched up well enough, but one actually spilled the beans. Looks like it'll be
Icecap
Hidden Palace
Dragon Road
Starlight Carnival
If it's true, it's not a bad selection. Though I guess the modern level choices are a bit disappointing - those levels were already done in this gameplay style in their respective games, I'd rather have seen some Adventure stuff.
Icecap would be amazing however, as well as Hidden palace - especially if it were based on the Sonic 2 version.
Icecap
Hidden Palace
Dragon Road
Starlight Carnival
If it's true, it's not a bad selection. Though I guess the modern level choices are a bit disappointing - those levels were already done in this gameplay style in their respective games, I'd rather have seen some Adventure stuff.
Icecap would be amazing however, as well as Hidden palace - especially if it were based on the Sonic 2 version.
Hidden palace - sonic 2 beta, or Hidden palace - sonic & knuckles? This is key. As much as I'd love to see a contemporary lava-reefish hidden palace take, them bringing in a well known beta level, but actually complete this time, would be pretty fucking cool.
Either way, it's no hydrocity.
Also, the whole pack sounds a bit too big to be real.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You read my mind. That'd be awesome.
I was going to say that I would've preferred something like Jungle Joyride until I went, "Oh wait, we have Seaside Hill already!" and also, "Oh wait, lag!" Arid Sands, I guess, could've been a good choice to round things out a bit in terms of environmental diversity too.
As for Starlight Carnival? I would've preferred Aquarium Park, just because Drill is so fun to use. Act 1 of Starlight Carnival is generally the eyecandy that sorta feels on rails. Then the rest of the 2D-esque acts aren't that great (I mostly remember the ones that use the moving yellow spring things). But I guess since Casino Night is a pinball machine, Starlight Carnival would've diversified the whole thing.
Taking with a grain of salt, nonetheless. Rumours and all that. Sounds too good to be true.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
The first 4chan guy kept dropping hints before eventually just posting the full list of levels, and when he dropped the hint about Hidden Palace, it was him posting a screenshot of the Sonic 2 Beta version.
Also, according to the rumor, the "pack" will come in three purchase tiers:
Classic Only (HPZ/ICZ?)
Modern Only (DR/SLC?)
Complete (all four stages)
Interesting. The tiers make more sense, and the thought of them does make the whole thing sound a bit more legit.
Now it's to hoping that they don't forget the PC players with all of this.
I really like the SC stage where you're ascending a tower using the Hover wisp. I think it was act 5. Visually one of the most memorable parts of the entire game imo, even if the actual layout wasnt that strong
Lord British
Member
Please be real.
I've been on a Sonic kick lately, having polished off the Sonic CD time attack achievement. I booted up Generations again, and my word, it really is utterly fantastic, isn't it? I played GHZ and Chemical Plant for the first time in months, and it was a beautiful experience.
Edit: Stupid question, but I have beaten all the missions (Steam version) and the 100% achievement didn't pop 'cos I was in offline mode. Is there some way I can re-trigger it without playing through the entire game again?
I've been on a Sonic kick lately, having polished off the Sonic CD time attack achievement. I booted up Generations again, and my word, it really is utterly fantastic, isn't it? I played GHZ and Chemical Plant for the first time in months, and it was a beautiful experience.
Edit: Stupid question, but I have beaten all the missions (Steam version) and the 100% achievement didn't pop 'cos I was in offline mode. Is there some way I can re-trigger it without playing through the entire game again?
nintendoman58
Member
Oh Yes.
If we're talking SA1 Icecap then I can't wait to here a remix of that epic snowball chase theme or this tune we all know and love.
If we're talking SA1 Icecap then I can't wait to here a remix of that epic snowball chase theme or this tune we all know and love.
Hot Coldman
Banned
4chan... iwanttobelieve.jpg
It could be possible that they've spent time up until now just figuring out how to put DLC into the game. No sense in announcing something that you don't even know is possible.
I'm not saying the news is legit, just that it MIGHT be true.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Why waste all that time and money on DLC nobody is going to buy? The game did pretty bad at retail and most of those will be gathering dust on used shelves.
Eh, this'll sell if released. Generations didn't do that bad at retail, iirc. Almost 2 mil worldwide, or somethin' like it?
Across physical releases (not counting the 3DS version), it has sold about 1.5m. As for digital releases...who knows? I own it on Steam, and it also appears to be available on Amazon.
If the Steam market is big enough, then DLC could prove to be a lucrative proposition.
riceandbeans
Member
It was a slow seller. If I remember right, it didn't really take off in sales until Black Friday sales. A Wii version probably would've added an extra million.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
So apparently Kakipi put something up, Sonic Generations-related. This time using the Windmill Isle PC mod:
Sonic Generations - Windmill Isle Act 1 Speed Run (w/skills) - 00:26:34
Sonic Generations - Windmill Isle Act 1 Speed Run (w/skills) - 00:26:34
BlazeHedgehog
Member
According to the rest of the rumor, a Sonic CD level was planned but they had trouble deciding on how to handle it. If it's to be believed, there was a split within the team - some wanted it to remain faithful to Sonic CD's time travel mechanics, others wanted to introduce something new and have it be a level where different eras in time let you switch between Classic and Modern Sonic on the fly.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I think a lot of stages have been ported, but not released. Windmill Isle Act 1 was released as a hardware test to make sure everything displays properly for everybody before polishing up and releasing the rest of the levels.
In the process, they have triggered some kind of memory leak in Sonic Generations and are looking for ways to patch it up (they implied it could be a simple fix as some of the files they generated for conversion are bigger than they need to be and are taking up more RAM than necessary).
There's people working on even redesigning the hub world and creating specific level gate artwork and music.
Picked this up recently, and just finished grabbing all the S-ranks and red rings and doing all the challenges (and reading through this monster of a thread.)
It was definitely fun, but I'd say Colors is still the better game. Still, I was worried the game wouldn't be much fun once you rip out the wisps, so I was pleasantly surprised. The challenges, while some of them were great, just definitely weren't as good as the large selection of Acts Colors had. And the "doppelganger races" were pretty blatant filler. "Run through the same level with nothing changed, only we added a time limit!" Hilarious how they didn't put in a Spikes animation, though. Also, Planet Wisp was done quite poorly, which hurts pretty bad when it's only one of nine levels. Still, plenty of fun, and I'm now confident that Sonic Team PROBABLY knows what they're doing.
Funny notes on the game, despite never playing 06 I tensed up a little when I first went into Crisis City and got flashbacks to the LP. Fortunately it was a solid level. The enemies making the popping noise was for some reason really awesome to me (in the Classic level.) And while the goal post running away was a great moment, the wind physics was a REALLY bad choice that makes that part of the level really... not fun.
Oh, and I fortunately didn't encounter much in the way of glitches. I got my upper torso stuck in the ceiling in Planet Wisp once, but I was able to jump out. Also, the rings seem to do funny things sometimes after bouncing out of you. I was in... Seaside hill, I think, and I missed a red ring and decided to kill myself to jump back to the checkpoint, so I let myself get hit. The rings fly out and land under a nearby up-down moving platform, and then all of the sudden start moving up with it. Found it hilarious to see my rings running away after I got hit.
Also, the statue room has a few odd ones in there. The stretch starting with Big I think has a good number of character that as far as I know didn't make it into the game, such as one of the bird guys from riders. Weird.
It was definitely fun, but I'd say Colors is still the better game. Still, I was worried the game wouldn't be much fun once you rip out the wisps, so I was pleasantly surprised. The challenges, while some of them were great, just definitely weren't as good as the large selection of Acts Colors had. And the "doppelganger races" were pretty blatant filler. "Run through the same level with nothing changed, only we added a time limit!" Hilarious how they didn't put in a Spikes animation, though. Also, Planet Wisp was done quite poorly, which hurts pretty bad when it's only one of nine levels. Still, plenty of fun, and I'm now confident that Sonic Team PROBABLY knows what they're doing.
Funny notes on the game, despite never playing 06 I tensed up a little when I first went into Crisis City and got flashbacks to the LP. Fortunately it was a solid level. The enemies making the popping noise was for some reason really awesome to me (in the Classic level.) And while the goal post running away was a great moment, the wind physics was a REALLY bad choice that makes that part of the level really... not fun.
Oh, and I fortunately didn't encounter much in the way of glitches. I got my upper torso stuck in the ceiling in Planet Wisp once, but I was able to jump out. Also, the rings seem to do funny things sometimes after bouncing out of you. I was in... Seaside hill, I think, and I missed a red ring and decided to kill myself to jump back to the checkpoint, so I let myself get hit. The rings fly out and land under a nearby up-down moving platform, and then all of the sudden start moving up with it. Found it hilarious to see my rings running away after I got hit.
Also, the statue room has a few odd ones in there. The stretch starting with Big I think has a good number of character that as far as I know didn't make it into the game, such as one of the bird guys from riders. Weird.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Anybody played the 3DS game?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I think Colours is more cohesive than Generations and thus I prefer it more. But with that said, I love Generations too.
Also, the music is the brightest spot of the game. It looks good, especially if you turn up the 3D.
Yeah. The consensus was that while it's okay (but the Dreamcast-era stuff isn't very good in comparison to the other stuff), the best bits of the game lay in the multiplayer and the missions (which you can unlock with Play Coins or MP).
Also, the music is the brightest spot of the game. It looks good, especially if you turn up the 3D.
It's a bad Sonic game in my opinion. Definitely feels rushed, and the level design has a lot of spike pits and random death traps.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Well, considering they had to struggle to put together a playable demo for E3 and only had their version of Green Hill ready, it isn't surprising. It likely took 6 months to develop.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Given the concept of Generations, cohesiveness was never going to be strong. I don't think you can fault it for that.
Also, it's way better at being "Sonic" than Colours is, regardless of whether that makes it a better game.
Yeah, I know. I wish it would've gotten the time it deserved as it had a lot of things that would've appealed to me a lot better if done with care.
I really like the selections.
Mushroom Hill, Emerald Coast, Radical Highway, Tropical Resort, Big Arm and Biolizard.
I believe there was some kind of medal collecting thing that halted you from going to the next level, I didn't like that either.
Huh? There was nothing like that in the 3DS game. Maybe the Chaos Emerald stages, but those are easy.
I like the 3DS game. Not nearly as good as the console version, but it kept me occupied for a while with the missions. Some nice concept art unlocks too.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
So, would you recommend it to me if I said that:
I like what I played of Generations on PC, quite a lot, and think it looks gorgeous
I hate modern Sonic, and absolutely adore Classic Sonic.
I despise every 3D Sonic game ever made (including Adventure 1/2) bar Sonic Colors on Wii and part of Rings.
I fucking LOVED Sonic Rush and feel meh towards its sequel
I think Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 (not 3) are the best Sonic games ever but never really played a lot of S+K.
I think the GBA games are mediocre and hate their physics and how Sonic runs/stop/behaves in jumps.
I hated Sonic 4 ep1.
Couldn't get into Unleashed.
Prefer short but punchy games (Rush) instead of packed with filler games (Rush 2).
Did I already say that I LOVE Dimps' Sonic Rush? Rush Adventure or whatever was a letdown.
How are the gfx and framerate?
I like what I played of Generations on PC, quite a lot, and think it looks gorgeous
I hate modern Sonic, and absolutely adore Classic Sonic.
I despise every 3D Sonic game ever made (including Adventure 1/2) bar Sonic Colors on Wii and part of Rings.
I fucking LOVED Sonic Rush and feel meh towards its sequel
I think Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 (not 3) are the best Sonic games ever but never really played a lot of S+K.
I think the GBA games are mediocre and hate their physics and how Sonic runs/stop/behaves in jumps.
I hated Sonic 4 ep1.
Couldn't get into Unleashed.
Prefer short but punchy games (Rush) instead of packed with filler games (Rush 2).
Did I already say that I LOVE Dimps' Sonic Rush? Rush Adventure or whatever was a letdown.
How are the gfx and framerate?
Are you talking about the 3DS version? Because yeah I'd recommend that to you if you really liked Rush since that's essentially what Modern Sonic plays like in that version. And Classic Sonic is good as always.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Talking about the 3DS version, sorry. I got the game on PC already and I'm liking it a lot atm!
Looks incredible, finally a great Sega engine running on PC after the dreadful Sonic Racing, Sega Rally Revo and so on...
Oh wow. Hype! What's the word on the gfx, 3D effect/performance and framerate? I imagine it got cut down to 30fps, does the game controls wierd 'cause of that?
I'll be honest with you, I don't have a good eye for frame rate so I'm going to say that it's probably 30fps. The game doesn't suffer for it though and I remember it being steady throughout the whole main game. It's worth me mentioning that the frame rate does go to shit when play online multiplayer, it's still playable but it's a very noticeable hit.
As for the graphics, they aren't mind-blowingly good but they aren't bad either and the 3D effect adds a little depth to the levels but you could play the whole game without it on and you would pretty much the same experience.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Well, I think I might like it and I'm itching for a good portable Sonic game after Rush, so... bought from Amazon for £13,90
btw, *really* appreciate your honesty mate, I hate when people report "game's perfect for me, super smooth" only to find out the opposite is true once you get to try the game yourself.Bummer about the 3D effect being a non-event, I do love good use of the stereoscopic effect for 2D/2.5D games.
Yeah I found to the special stages to not be very enjoyable, especially the ones later on.
Either way, if that was the mechanic used to prevent you from moving forward, It had to be pretty bad in my opinion for me to stop halfway through the game.
I also didn't like some of the bosses like Metal Sonic. There was also one level I really didn't like and it was the
Emerald Coast
petethepanda
Member
Anyone know how/when you unlock Open Your Heart? I don't have it for some reason, kind of figured I would.
nintendoman58
Member
You have to keep doing those bonus challenges and get red rings in stages to unlock it. It takes time, but eventually you'll get it.
