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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
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SonicMegaDrive
Member
I knew it would be that one. Yeah, I had to play on the gamepad to get that one. There's no way I was going to be able to beat that on a laggy TV.
Cymbal Head
Banned
OK, got all the emeralds on my Sonic & Tails save, saw the true ending, and finished the blue sphere stages (50/50 gold/silver).
Now to blast process my way through Tails, Knuckles, and Sonic Alone.
I gotta say, Studiopolis is by far the best of the "spring yard" archetype stages in any Sonic game. If it weren't for the lame Act 2 boss, I would be tempted to call it my favorite 2D Sonic level ever.
Now to blast process my way through Tails, Knuckles, and Sonic Alone.
I gotta say, Studiopolis is by far the best of the "spring yard" archetype stages in any Sonic game. If it weren't for the lame Act 2 boss, I would be tempted to call it my favorite 2D Sonic level ever.
Diablohead
Member
One thing I found when I first started playing the switch version on my tv is that the responce time for movement was crisp and really good, I have all the extras on my tv turned off but the game felt better then the mobile ports when it came to response times.
portable play is amazing crisp also.
Blue Sphere.
wow, did that player get a fine for doing that do you know?
Don't forget
Knuckles & knuckles as it has a unique all emerald ending
Garrett Hawke
Member
Undertale
Huh, thought that one was pretty straightforward. IIRC it's based off a secret blue sphere stage from S3&K, and I wanna say it's modified a bit to be quite a bit easier.
Speaking of this boss,
how do you avoid damage during the wind phase?
I thought that ending happened regardless of emeralds. Gonna be annoying to get otherwise...
This one is the bane of my existence. I either I get to the end and fail because I jumped a hundredth of a second and I missed it by one or I make a last minute mistake at the end.
Cymbal Head
Banned
There are poles sticking out of the left and right sides of the screen that you will grab onto when the wind lifts you up. You can get a hit in by jumping off when Eggman is above you, and another one when the wind dies down if he's close enough.
Is there a reward for getting all gold medals on blue sphere?
No, only an achievement/trophy.
Diablohead
Member
The bars on the side of the big tv can be grabbed.
I thought it was all emeralds but I have not done it myself yet, only seen it on twitch
...Huh. Didn't even notice them through two whole playthroughs, lol.
Cheevos. Otherwise, just get silvers for unlockables.
I want them to add in more unlockables in the future so MLG Blue Sphere players such as myself can get moar swag.
Well I'll be finding out soon enough,
unless I suddenly stop sucking at getting emeralds this run. Got the first four 1st try, so at least I feel like I'm getting the hang of things, but I still don't know where most of the big rings are in the mid-game zones.
Theslammer
Member
Did anyone else laugh as hard as I did when you got to the main Lava Reef boss with Knuckles?
When I saw the thought bubbles... just freaking A, guys. They must have had a blast making this game.
If your experience is anything like mine you'll probably just stumble into them lol. First run as Sonic I only had like three or four, with Knuckles I had all seven by Stardust Speedway lol.
Ok so how are we suppose to pass the Oil Ocean boss ? It's barely possible to get back any rings after being hurt and we randomly die in oil even when it's completely not related to the platforms being "destroyed" before.
I was kinda enjoying the game but it begins to annoy me quite a lot.
I already read the advices from these smart people who say this is the easiest boss of the game but it absolutely doesn't work and at some point I just die magicaly even if I play safe.
Some also said it was impossible to die with the Flame Shield but I didn't even see what it was supposed to do since you still get hit by the bullets. So... it does't protect against anything.
I was kinda enjoying the game but it begins to annoy me quite a lot.
I already read the advices from these smart people who say this is the easiest boss of the game but it absolutely doesn't work and at some point I just die magicaly even if I play safe.
Some also said it was impossible to die with the Flame Shield but I didn't even see what it was supposed to do since you still get hit by the bullets. So... it does't protect against anything.
Theslammer
Member
First, when Eggman initially takes down the platforms, try to jump at him once he surfaces the first time. When the laser comes up, just keep jumping below a platform as he'll never shoot under there. Be ready to leave once you see the pink tentacles pop up because he'll bring the platforms down and you with it from underneath. Once you're on top, try to get a couple hits on him. Rinse and repeat.
I haven't done this without losing rings at some point in the boss fight, so I do find it harder than the original Oil Ocean boss, who was a piece of cake.
I haven't done this without losing rings at some point in the boss fight, so I do find it harder than the original Oil Ocean boss, who was a piece of cake.
PhantomThief
Banned
The bullets are the easiest to avoid. Dont go crazy waiting under those platforms since they will crush you.
The Flame Shield reflects the bullets.
That's what I thought but I continuously get killed by something. I always stay far away from the platforms when I see the tentacles.
I wait to be sure it's completely away before I jump there.
Maybe it's because I play as Knuckles and he's just not jumping high enough to make it easier.
I just did a good run but jumped on a bullet while trying to go out of the oil. I'm just not feeling good in that ink after dying from nothing (and clearly not from the plateforms crumbling).
I wait to be sure it's completely away before I jump there.
Maybe it's because I play as Knuckles and he's just not jumping high enough to make it easier.
I just did a good run but jumped on a bullet while trying to go out of the oil. I'm just not feeling good in that ink after dying from nothing (and clearly not from the plateforms crumbling).
Yeah, that whole sequence and boss fight is so perfect.
Although
I think it's weird how Heavy King is only fought as Knuckles. As one of the main bad guys, he's severely under-utilised.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It's super easy until the very end. But man, those last 15 seconds are so stressful!
4th game over. I was good/ok at everything else, but this is just ridiculous.
And Mario would have to learn from this game ? Lol... maybe just for a few details but that's it. I don't see what's so amazing about it. It's just an ok old school Sonic.
I just hate this boss. When I attack there's always a random chance of knuckles juste dying on the boss right after I hit it. I'm sick of this level which I already didn't like that much.
And to help it, it has one of the music I like less.
And Mario would have to learn from this game ? Lol... maybe just for a few details but that's it. I don't see what's so amazing about it. It's just an ok old school Sonic.
I just hate this boss. When I attack there's always a random chance of knuckles juste dying on the boss right after I hit it. I'm sick of this level which I already didn't like that much.
And to help it, it has one of the music I like less.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Speaking of which, have you played the "Mania" Blue Sphere course in the Extras menu yet? I'm still curious if there's supposed to be a very small number of distinct stages in that category or if the game is just stuck giving me repeats for some reason.
Blue Sphere.
Me when I fail and have two blue sphere left.
PyroPaperPlanes
Member
Was I just unlucky, or do they kill you if you're simply standing on the platform when it's brought down too? Because I was definitely "crushed" ontop of one before.
Speaking of which, unintentional "Crush" deaths are easily my biggest gripe with this game due to how frequent they can occur. It was hilarious the first time it happened, as it reminded me of the classics. However, it's happened just a few too many times throygh my playthroughs that it's led me to wishing the game had a more forgiving solution. With the very small amount of bottomless pits now present, being Crushed is now the most dangerous (and unfortunately in many cases, arguably unfair) obstacles in Sonic Mania.
I had real trouble with this boss as well, just playing as Sonic. Sometimes I would fall in the oil and just die instantly and I had no idea why. Seemed bugged to me.
It could be my favorite zone in the game. Tons of routes, interesting gimmicks and virtually nothing to do with the original version, much like the other zone from that game.
The boss crushes you to death when it starts to sink down again, that's likely what kills you. You have to be careful not to attack him for too long. Play it safe. Also keep in mind that the easiest way to attack him is by jumping on his top when he starts to appear.
PyroPaperPlanes
Member
Let me guess, was it the maze where you need to jump over the reversible ball, then immediately turn left for the last two blue spheres?
If so, I did the exact same thing. X_x
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Titanic Monarch
Metallic Madness
Scrap Brain and Sonic 1's Final Zone
Maybe I need to replay the last one though, I'm probably swayed a bit by how long it was (especially since the ones previous were pretty long too) and I was feeling fatigued by the time I got there.
PyroPaperPlanes
Member
Seeing how I had previously played Sonic CD and knew how challenging the platforming was in the original, I knew to take my time here. It was neat seeing the callbacks to CD too, with the clever reuse of the shrink rays. Glad it wasn't the final stage though, as it's one of the slower stages for sure.
It grew on me immensely in replays. I thought it was a bit of a boring pick at first cause I usually
stop playing Sonic CD after Stardust Speedway,
was really stress-inducing. And it also felt a bit underwhelming that it was just straight up the Sonic 1 final boss for the most part.
That's true.
But I still don't think he has enough presence considering how he keeps showing up in the background art and the intro cinematic. I hope this game isn't the last we see of him because he has a really cool design.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It's objectively the best zone in the game. If you disagree, YOU ARE WRONG
(zone name spoiled at the link)
I finaly found a good timing to be asap (as safe as possible : P).
I killed it just now. I was flying away all the time at the opposite of what it was doing but the most important was to begin to fly away from my platform during before the 3rd laser so I'm already on the safe platform before the 3 others fall.
Then I immediately fly-attack the boss and the timing made it impossible for the bullets to touch me.
I still got hurt twice I think but miraculously kept one ring twice. The second time especially I grabbed one in the oil really at the very last possible moment I'm sure.
The thing is that it's not even "hard" when you look at each thing seperately. I mean I can play a few levels of Ikaruga... and fifn't have too much trouble with Shovel Knight for example.
But everything together and the replay frustration creates so many possible ways to get hit/killed.
Good thing I get to lava reef after as I love the music there if I remember correctly.
Just finished my second complete run through with Knuckles.
Playing Sonic Mania is making me desperately want a Taxman Collection of 1-3K + CD on Switch, PS4 & Xbox One. It seems like Mania was huge success for Sega, hopefully this would push them to handle the legal issues with S3&K so they can get taxman to work on those.
So imagine this: Digital release of aforementioned collection BUT a Physical release for $40 of Mania + Taxman Collection in one disk/cartridge. All the classic sonic games in one package and you get the added benefit of physical Sonic Mania.
Playing Sonic Mania is making me desperately want a Taxman Collection of 1-3K + CD on Switch, PS4 & Xbox One. It seems like Mania was huge success for Sega, hopefully this would push them to handle the legal issues with S3&K so they can get taxman to work on those.
So imagine this: Digital release of aforementioned collection BUT a Physical release for $40 of Mania + Taxman Collection in one disk/cartridge. All the classic sonic games in one package and you get the added benefit of physical Sonic Mania.
It happened twice.
One of those were four blue balls in the middle of the place that you can only access by bumping on a yellow one, if you don't do it in the correct order, you're screwed.
I've beaten the game as Sonic, Knuckles and now Tails, and I have just one more blue sphere stage to go before I can put the game down for good but I just can't beat it.
Anyone have any tips for the stage where you have to circle areas containing rings? I never know which direction to take the yellow jump sphere at the end when I'm done one lap of blue spheres, I always end up jumping out into the wrong direction somewhere. There must be a gimmick to this one that I don't understand, I beat the rest but have lost on this one about 15 times in a row now.
Anyone have any tips for the stage where you have to circle areas containing rings? I never know which direction to take the yellow jump sphere at the end when I'm done one lap of blue spheres, I always end up jumping out into the wrong direction somewhere. There must be a gimmick to this one that I don't understand, I beat the rest but have lost on this one about 15 times in a row now.
Ristifer
Member
Man... don't tease the lot of us with this. Everyone wants this lol.
The only way I managed to beat that one is by using the bumpers. Since the stage is a square just before you're about to go to the last one on the yellow spring, go over the bumpers so you're on the reverse side.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Yeah,
Act 2 boss was easily the most troubling obstacle in the game for me. There's just so many things that can crush you during the fight, and the pinching is already a little less forgiving than I'd like just playing the game. Factor that with the "urgency" of having to release the
during replays - even if it's rarely an actual issue - and the whole level is probably the most frustrating.
Oil Ocean's
steam
OrbitalBeard
Member
I'm not going to get my hopes up, but it would be amazing if Sega game them the time and resources to make that happen.
Itchy//Tasty
Member
Please tell me I'm not the only one who LOVES
? It's one of my favourite Sonic 2 zones too, if not most favourite. Mania improves on it further.
Oil Ocean
Could see it happen when the ios/android ports are out with console getting em in a free update that release day.
Just make the missing ones be one of the heavies or eggman use that new stone. Or just that stone portal animation.
I personally prefer the original.
But Act 2's music is excellent, just the sort of remix I wanted to hear.
Ristifer
Member
I love that a lot of these bosses/latter stages are a bit stressful. One of my main concerns with Mania was that it might be a bit easy at times. But they definitely made it a challenge to get through.
However, it can get a bit grating, that's for sure haha. A lot of the crushing deaths are faithfully represented in Mania. Even without getting crushed against the walls/ceilings, I remember getting in an awkward position with some of the cubes in CPZ. I jumped to time it properly and ended up getting crushed underneath, while they were moving to the side. It was confusing. But then I remembered that these things happen all the time in these classic games. It made me wince at the screen numerous times.
However, it can get a bit grating, that's for sure haha. A lot of the crushing deaths are faithfully represented in Mania. Even without getting crushed against the walls/ceilings, I remember getting in an awkward position with some of the cubes in CPZ. I jumped to time it properly and ended up getting crushed underneath, while they were moving to the side. It was confusing. But then I remembered that these things happen all the time in these classic games. It made me wince at the screen numerous times.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I fucking hate saying this, but there's a strong piece of my brain that keeps telling my heart not to count on ANYTHING coming from Christian Whitehead and the other Mania folks - only because I could never be surprised if Sega somehow fucked things up either intentionally or on accident.
I mean, it makes absolute, total perfect sense for us to get maybe some enhancements to Mania, maybe some paid DLC, definitely a Mania 2, and I think we'd all love to see an originals collection. So, because it makes perfect sense I wouldn't be surprised if Sega never funds it and we get Sonic Team's Forces 2 and Unleashed 2 in the next five years.
I mean, it makes absolute, total perfect sense for us to get maybe some enhancements to Mania, maybe some paid DLC, definitely a Mania 2, and I think we'd all love to see an originals collection. So, because it makes perfect sense I wouldn't be surprised if Sega never funds it and we get Sonic Team's Forces 2 and Unleashed 2 in the next five years.
TheAggroCraig
Member
I'm amazed at how many people like this stage, because I've always hated it, so seeing it in Mania was definitely the only downer for me regarding it. The Mania version is definitely much better though, and I like what they did with it and made the music tolerable as well.