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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
- Thread starter Hot Coldman
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The fight works exactly the same if you use debug mode to get to it as Sonic. It even swaps in Knuckles's sprites momentarily for one of the animations in the cutscene, haha.
That little animation for Knuckles before the boss fight was hilarious and fantastic.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Sooooo what causes an item or ring box to appear from a signpost at the end of an act?
If it's like S3&K, the same items always spawn in the same locations underground, so you just have to find & memorize them.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Too bad it couldn't be Blue Knuckles as in Sonic 3 & Knuckles when you glitched Sonic into Knuckles' Sky Sanctuary.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Ahhh, so it has to do with where the signpost lands? Interesting. Thanks!
Daffy Duck
Member
Hahaha that happened to me.
The soundtrack will probably get a release after the PC version is out.
Regardless of that, you can already find some fan recorded / ripped soundtracks online. With the music probably recorded through
.
Anyway, I've had
on repeat for hours now. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯
Regardless of that, you can already find some fan recorded / ripped soundtracks online. With the music probably recorded through
D.A. Garden
Anyway, I've had
Metallic Madness Act 2
_/¯It's perhaps the best Sonic has ever been, in my opinion.
So you have to be a Sonic fan?
Gangster Bastard
Member
Same.
But then he attacked me during the cut scene which caused it to glitch out. I ended up having to reset the game because Eggman was just standing there doing nothing.
If you are, you'll appreciate the littlest of things this game does and offers.
If not, I'd say it's on par with the Sonic 2, 3 & Knuckles and CD games. ie a very enjoyable fast paced platformer.
Pyroclastic
Banned
Fwiw there are loads of people in here who have written they're not big fans of the series that have posted they enjoy it. There's someone on the last page who wrote a glowing review, for example.
It's a fun 2d platformer with an enjoyable soundtrack.
I don't have a huge amount of nostalgia for 2D Sonic, but I love Mania regardless. It has a couple of design decisions that feel archaic to me (like every little object can crush you to death), but other than that I absolutely love my time with it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
The game is not out on PC until the 29th.
I'm sure it'll work. I'm going to install the game on my toaster of a work laptop and fully expect it to work
OrbitalBeard
Member
All Blue Sphere stages COMPLETE. FINALLY.
Almost all silver medals though. There's no way I'm going for perfects on all of these.
Almost all silver medals though. There's no way I'm going for perfects on all of these.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Your first playthrough won't last more than 4 or 5 hours. There's tons of replay value though. I've easily put 20 hours into the game so far.
Sometimes you'll be surprised.
Games maybe look like they should run on a toaster, but the developers used some kinda high tech engine which makes the game way more demanding than you thought.
Memento_Mori15
Member
So I finished this game today and I gotta say, it's a good game but not as good as S3&K. I encountered bugs along the way and near the end, I find myself encountering what I hate about the 2D sonic games: you will always get hit because you don't know where the enemy or other stage hazards will be. However, this is something you learn and can avoid with multiple runs.
One bug, which isn't gaming breaking, I fell inside a cog wheel when you're not supposed to but you can easily jump out. Another, sonic was stuck in one animation in
and you have to restart the stage. There were many more but I digress.
I loved blue sphere in S3&K but I feel like there's an input delay that messes me up in this game. So I avoided playing it.
Even though I wrote what I disliked, I don't hate the game and I still enjoyed it. I'll definitely replay it again to get super sonic. ..I could never find those special stage rings....
One bug, which isn't gaming breaking, I fell inside a cog wheel when you're not supposed to but you can easily jump out. Another, sonic was stuck in one animation in
flying battery zone
I loved blue sphere in S3&K but I feel like there's an input delay that messes me up in this game. So I avoided playing it.
Even though I wrote what I disliked, I don't hate the game and I still enjoyed it. I'll definitely replay it again to get super sonic. ..I could never find those special stage rings....
An amazing game. I think Studiopolis and Press Garden are top tier easily. In saying that, as someone who finished S+K a billion times, the overall package is lacking. I feel Mania had some of the highest of highs, but I cannot stand CD levels, and felt they were poor here.
If someone was like choose one or the other, S+K is still the GOAT because the pacing is perfect, I think both Act 1+2 bosses are better and it builds to such a crescendo. Regardless, Mania does a lot right.
I also think S+K level design is the best despite how Mania moves you around.
If someone was like choose one or the other, S+K is still the GOAT because the pacing is perfect, I think both Act 1+2 bosses are better and it builds to such a crescendo. Regardless, Mania does a lot right.
I also think S+K level design is the best despite how Mania moves you around.
Diablohead
Member
If anyone is confused when playing chemical plant act 2 remember this, you are climbing up to the boss who is near the top of the stage, that makes the layout make more sense.
Shante Pirates Curse on steam ran on my old windows tablet but only at low windows resolution, the onboard gpu lagged a lot if anything higher.
Going by sonic CD on pc I would expect mania to run, just not sure how well overall (3d bonus stages lag on switch for example but that's a port, the steam version is like the main base)
Shante Pirates Curse on steam ran on my old windows tablet but only at low windows resolution, the onboard gpu lagged a lot if anything higher.
Going by sonic CD on pc I would expect mania to run, just not sure how well overall (3d bonus stages lag on switch for example but that's a port, the steam version is like the main base)
Nexus Zero
Member
A couple negatives, which are nit picky cuz the game is so awesome:
- The boss at the end of
was buggy. Felt like at one point I got killed under its death animation.
- The final boss of the game, without emeralds, was a great concept but I felt
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were way less novel than the other returns. I felt like they didn't offer many new concepts.
- there's a lot of blue sphere. I'm enjoying it a lot more this time around but there's still a lot.
Still, the game is phenomenal. 23 years was worth the wait. I really hope for a Mania 2, perhaps with a 50-50 new/old balance.
- The boss at the end of
oil ocean act 2
- The final boss of the game, without emeralds, was a great concept but I felt
like you should have to kill the bots when you get transported to the different areas. It seemed like you could get away with just surviving which was way less epic.
oil ocean and lava reef act 2s
- there's a lot of blue sphere. I'm enjoying it a lot more this time around but there's still a lot.
Still, the game is phenomenal. 23 years was worth the wait. I really hope for a Mania 2, perhaps with a 50-50 new/old balance.
Finished the Sonic run.
On to Tails then.
Y'all weren't kidding, that true final boss is a letdown. Kinda wish they'd done more with the Hard-Boiled Heavies throughout the game, like stuff with the stage transitions a la Knuckles in S3K. Especially for Sonic's run, where you just suddenly encounter him in the final final boss and it's like "well, this is happening lol." Lacks much of a build-up to the BIG BETRAYAL.
On to Tails then.
SkylineRKR
Member
I hate the final boss. He's not hard at all but the downtime sucks.
Its best to just try to juggle on top of him when he charges electricity. With each leash he loses he gets easier because you can hit him during his charge and it will leave an opening.
For those bad mini boss parts, only the second was a pain but I found out if you stand at the right side first, and then at the centre he won't hit you.
For those bad mini boss parts, only the second was a pain but I found out if you stand at the right side first, and then at the centre he won't hit you.
I hadn't realized that if you bust two of his leashes before he teleports you, he'll skip the teleportation phase and go straight into the launching-missiles-in-the-air bit, so you can beat him without teleporting at all. Guess the fastest way to beat him is to just take intentional damage and cheese out the first several hits, assuming you're not already in super form anyway, heh.
EDIT:
The ninja heavy bit during the final boss is actually easy. Just stand in front of a spring and ready a spindash; let loose when he comes toward you.
Bubble Walrus
Member
It took me an embarrassing amount of attempts to finally complete Flying Battery.
Yeah it was unique to
control him fully
2 fight conflict in the battle between robotnik and the king heavy for the new gem
Yeah it doesn't match up to Sonic 3's. Music made it feel so good.
Love how Eggman gets to the point of deasperation where he tries everything to flee with the Master Emerald.
I bet it's already a million seller. It deserves to be.
Heh, I'm three golds away from a complete set. Need twitch reactions for some of those levels.
Yeah Doomsday Zone was epic as fuck but the fight itself was as basic as it gets.
Glad to see that Jirard the Completionist in his Sonic Mania video also seems to agree with me and some others here that the game would have been even better if all the zones had been connected by stage transitions, especially since the ones that are included are of such high quality.
Please Taxman and crew, add in some of those cute animations between the later zones!
Edit: not to harp on this point too much but both Antdude and Matthew from the YoVideosgames! crew also seem to mention that the lack of stage transitions is the biggest nitpick they can voice against this game, which in a way is a very good thing of course. Still, I hope the Mania team picks up on this and finds a way to add some more transitions if they have the time and resources. Below, people are already giving some good suggestions for transitions.
Please Taxman and crew, add in some of those cute animations between the later zones!
Edit: not to harp on this point too much but both Antdude and Matthew from the YoVideosgames! crew also seem to mention that the lack of stage transitions is the biggest nitpick they can voice against this game, which in a way is a very good thing of course. Still, I hope the Mania team picks up on this and finds a way to add some more transitions if they have the time and resources. Below, people are already giving some good suggestions for transitions.
It really sticks out as I play sonic 3 complete. Granted that mod improved some of the transitions and fixed the stage order to be more sensical and adopt the original pre-cart split progression order, but it really helps sell the idea that you are running through a single connected world and not just warping to stages. It is a shame that Mania didn't adopt them for all stages.
Azure Dream
Member
I'm really hoping that's the case. And they could buff off some of the roughest edges near the very end of the game. Imagine if they made the final boss better. They could do that! It's not like they're porting Sonic 1 or 2, it's their game.
Android18a
Member
They'll be included in the full version of the game when you lock it onto Sonic Mania Part 2. Maybe.
Would be awesome if a sequel did actually "lock on" to make a bigger experience.
Until you learn the fight and utterly cheese it, it forces you to learn to manage your resources and play smart, so I like it for that.
Mania gets credit for daring to try something different with the final fight even if it ends up a little... Lacking.
CampbellzSoup
Member
The ending totally didn't have an epic feel to it what was that about ..???
3+K was damn good ending / boss
3+K was damn good ending / boss
Triforce141
Member
It would've been cool for
Lava Reef
Metallic Madness
Sonic, Tails & Knuckles used the Hidden Palace teleporter to go to Sky Sanctuary, see Little Planet rise up and run through the spiral ramp to get back inside the encased place and land on Metallic Madness
Or
the teleporter shoots straight through a view of Sky Sanctuary and land in Metallic Madness if the other idea would retread a bit too hard
I think the whole point of Sonic3 & Knuckles is that Eggman is desperate. sonic has time and time again stopped his plans for world domination. The Death Egg barely escaped destruction at the end of Sonic 2 and in 3 Eggman is desperate to get it flying above the planet once again. At the same time he is searching for the Master Emerald hen he is turning Angel Island upside down (well burning the forest and so on).
Then the last boss fight where Eggman thinks he has the upper hand with his giant Death Egg Robot only to be defeated even with the Master Emerald at hand. Then the great escape against Super Sonic which shows how epic Sonic 3 & Knuckles is
