Indeed.
That just may be it. I know they used it a lot in previews before it's release.
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Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode II |OT| Let's Go, Friend of Friends!
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That just may be it. I know they used it a lot in previews before it's release.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
When I first played through this game I really did enjoy some of it, but for the most part was unimpressed. The typical DIMPS level design flaws were back in full force, the combo mechanic was implemented poorly, and the bosses were mostly pretty bad.
But I played through it with a friend using local coop the other day and had a blast for the most part. Coop really is where the game shines. It didn't exactly change any of the flaws I named, but working together to get through the levels and beat the bosses was genuinely fun... Until the Boss (and 1st act to a lesser extent) of Sky Fortress.
Sky Chase style gameplay does not work very well when the plane doesn't automatically catch Sonic. The combo button makes him teleport back to the wings, but he's usually dead before you can reach it. The fact that the boss is terribly designed and entirely too long doesn't help. Instant kill attacks at the end of the stage? Really?
Overall though it was a genuinely fun experience. I have practically zero interest in replaying single player mode, but coop I just might.
But I played through it with a friend using local coop the other day and had a blast for the most part. Coop really is where the game shines. It didn't exactly change any of the flaws I named, but working together to get through the levels and beat the bosses was genuinely fun... Until the Boss (and 1st act to a lesser extent) of Sky Fortress.
Sky Chase style gameplay does not work very well when the plane doesn't automatically catch Sonic. The combo button makes him teleport back to the wings, but he's usually dead before you can reach it. The fact that the boss is terribly designed and entirely too long doesn't help. Instant kill attacks at the end of the stage? Really?
Overall though it was a genuinely fun experience. I have practically zero interest in replaying single player mode, but coop I just might.
Maybe they were going to bring the minecart from Episode 1 back on a rollercoaster track but someone decided late in development that would be a poor idea, but they had to keep most of the level the same.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/05/21/review-sonic-4-episode-2-xbox-360/
Finally finished my Episode 2 review. Sorry to Kokonoe; I totally had his Sky Fortress screenshot in there but then I rediscovered Sega's Flickr account and decided it would look weird to mix two of their 720p screenshots with his super nice, super clean one.
Finally finished my Episode 2 review. Sorry to Kokonoe; I totally had his Sky Fortress screenshot in there but then I rediscovered Sega's Flickr account and decided it would look weird to mix two of their 720p screenshots with his super nice, super clean one.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
No! I must ride the rollercoaster!" he shouted.
Dimps said No, Sonic. You are the rollercoaster
And then Sonic held right.
Dimps said No, Sonic. You are the rollercoaster
And then Sonic held right.
Sonic the Hedgehog waited...
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
And awful special stages
And a terrible final boss
And dying cat sounds all over the place
Episode I is garbage through and through.
Yeah, the level is literally 'hold right to win', but still I managed to somehow have fun with it :lol I wish it would've been less 'hold right to win' though.
Sonic in Search for
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Oh god Oil Desert's boss is fucking terrible; guess it's there to make sure I'm not having too much fun with Episode 2.
Also so sue me but I found White Park Act 2 really fun if you're speed-running. It's definitely way too automatic if you're just playing it regularly though.
Also so sue me but I found White Park Act 2 really fun if you're speed-running. It's definitely way too automatic if you're just playing it regularly though.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
In addition to my XBLA review, looks like we also have our iOS review up now, too
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/05/21/review-sonic-4-episode-ii-ios/
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/05/21/review-sonic-4-episode-ii-ios/
The Oil Desert boss was stupidly easy, I thought, but it seems as if it would be frustrating IF you managed to die as it took me almost FIVE MINUTES to complete that stage. Lengthy boss battles are a very poor fit for a Sonic game.
Sonic 4 Episode III confirmed to be Sonic Heroes 2.
Solid SOAP
Member
I dunno, I understand the complaints about the bosses but I personally enjoyed them in this game. They take a bit long to defeat but otherwise I found them to be fun to fight and a surprising change of pace from the traditional 2D Sonic boss that can be defeated in seconds.
Because it's not time consuming because the boss is engaging, it's time consuming because of the wait time for hitting the boss.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Here's my own review of the game.
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2012/05/tss-review-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-ii/
That's the only good thing about White Zone Act 2.
Nice to see an iOS review out there.
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2012/05/tss-review-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-ii/
That's the only good thing about White Zone Act 2.
Nice to see an iOS review out there.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You rated it higher than I thought you would given your commentary during your playthrough, but it kind of seems like you liked it a little more upon several level replays for Red Rings?
Like, Oil Desert for me upon a replay for Red Rings/opening up a special stage for the seventh Chaos Emerald isn't that bad since I'm used to throwing the Sonic Spinball into the wind. As a result, I've bumped my initial 5.5 to a 6. It's still rather average, but it's competent.
I'm replaying Episode 1 right now and am at the torch puzzle.
It sure is "torch"urus. I don't like it one bit. I'm very happy that Episode II nixed this kind of nonsense.
Nocturnowl
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytxooM3YnM8
Oh I do love a good pun. I still enjoy the rest of that stage, at least I think I do, blowing up the blocks and stuff, actually one of the better dark stage gimmicks i've played in a platformer.
According to the Steam registry, there's a patch being tested for the PC version of Sonic 4 Episode 2.
I wonder if the patch that is being tested could be related to the complaints in the SEGA forums about the game always being rendered at 1280x720 independently of the resolution chosen.
I wonder if the patch that is being tested could be related to the complaints in the SEGA forums about the game always being rendered at 1280x720 independently of the resolution chosen.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, blowing up the blocks was fine. I think they should've increased the field of vision with regards to the torch a little because the only way to see enemies in the dark is if the HA lock-on is present.
But man, I can't play this game anymore. A shame because I was about to replay Mad Gear.
DeVeAn
Member
That would be awesome.According to the Steam registry, there's a patch being tested for the PC version of Sonic 4 Episode 2.
I wonder if the patch that is being tested could be related to the complaints in the SEGA forums about the game always being rendered at 1280x720 independently of the resolution chosen.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I gave Episode 1 a 2.5 out of 5. Right up the middle. Episode 2 is an improvement over Episode 1, and I felt like a 3/5 was too low.
The game is definitely more fun your second time through because a lot of the level design seems to hinge on memorization. And yeah, poking around for red rings was fun. Co-op was also pretty cool, though a bit sloppy. But the sheer "AAAAAAAA" level of playing Sky Fortress with a friend cannot be understated.
Solid SOAP
Member
This would be a problem if you were doing nothing in between hit-box increments, but you'll be avoiding the tentacles with the first boss and avoiding boxes with the second Eggman fight. I never found that I was "waiting" to hit Eggman, really.
Diablohead
Member
Just in case he does not know, ep2 is not retina on the ipad 3 it's running the old regular res of 1024 x 768, imo still looks damn good for a tablet game.
sketchsanchez
Member
So I'm playing this on Android (transformer prime tf201) and I wondering... what exactly did they change? Correct me if I'm wrong (more than possible,) but they touted a new engine didn't they? Granted I've only completed the first 4 acts but nothing feels any different here.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
It's more of a completely new graphics engine, though I guess if you're playing on a smartphone rather than a tablet/PC/console it's harder to tell the difference. Basically whereas everything sans Sonic and badniks was pre-rendered in Episode 1, everything is 3D in Episode 2with some similar fancy lighting effects to Generations.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh hey, you can play with SEGA of America employees. Well, those with the 360 version, anyway.
Gamertags for everyone participating are in the blog entry here.
Co-op and multiplayer are really cool, even if they're not that great. Someone said before that the zones were Megamanesque where on a second playthrough they're enjoyable, but I kind of disagree because I generally like Megaman levels on a first playthrough. >.> But absolutely, the game's better on a second runthrough, though still reasonably average to me, hence my 6.
SEGA Blog said:
Gamertags for everyone participating are in the blog entry here.
Yeah, went back and read your Episode 1 review and, uh, you didn't like that game very much at all. At least from your Episode 2 review text, you seemed to legitimately enjoy it.
Co-op and multiplayer are really cool, even if they're not that great. Someone said before that the zones were Megamanesque where on a second playthrough they're enjoyable, but I kind of disagree because I generally like Megaman levels on a first playthrough. >.> But absolutely, the game's better on a second runthrough, though still reasonably average to me, hence my 6.
has this been posted yet?
our favorite #1 Sonic fan going through Episode Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRnJxOfRFIY
our favorite #1 Sonic fan going through Episode Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRnJxOfRFIY
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Well, Paraxade0's not Kakipi, but...
Sylvania Castle 1 (Sonic) Speed Run - 0'40"50
Sky Fortress 2 (Sonic) Speed Run - 1'06"16
Oil Desert 2 (Sonic) Speed Run - 0'49"62
Oil Desert 2, once you know what to do (ie: keep rolling and rolling and rolling), admittedly, doesn't take very long to complete at all.
He's amazing.
Sylvania Castle 1 (Sonic) Speed Run - 0'40"50
Sky Fortress 2 (Sonic) Speed Run - 1'06"16
Oil Desert 2 (Sonic) Speed Run - 0'49"62
Oil Desert 2, once you know what to do (ie: keep rolling and rolling and rolling), admittedly, doesn't take very long to complete at all.
Why didn't he just post this on his Sonic1Sonic channel? :lol
He's amazing.
Nocturnowl
Member
I really don't like the little delay and time stopping animation for performing Tails assisted moves, and the rolling move itself is pretty ridiculous really, it even makes Generations classic Sonic Spindash look weak by comparison.
What makes me laugh is how he complains about the story so much in that video, it REALLY bothers him! XD
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Well, I'm sure SONIC DIMENSIONS will be better.
(laughter)
*****: Can you say whether the rumour of a game called Sonic Dimensions on the Wii U is true or false?
Takashi Iizuka: Sonic Dimensions? [Laughs] I think it’s a complete hoax. [Laughs]
Huw_Dawson
Member
Nobody should have such little idea of how to use a microphone properly and still be allowed to use the term "Let's Play." Criminal.
I also took dispute with his comment of how short Generations was in the description of the video, because that game isn't short if you bother to look at the rest of the content that came with the game rather than just the headline stages. It's like saying Morrowind is short because you can beat it in five minutes.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You aren't familiar with how angry he was prior to Sonic Generations' release. He's a crazy guy (probably not serious... I think).
(NSFW warning, particularly for language. Oh, and do turn your speakers down):
Sonic Generations Review Part 1
Sonic Generations Review Part 2
I didn't know Sonic the Hedgehog canon was so important. :lol
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Classic Sonic's spindash was very overpowered yet made for some crazy stuff in speedruns, but the rolling move grants invincibility to spikes and stuff. You can't use it for a whole level, but it could get you out of a jam most of the time.
I don't like the delay for the animation either, since it takes some time as well. Other than that, the moves do serve their purpose for making the levels flow better.
I still think Sonic games have the potential to top the Genesis era. This and Generations were "good," but they both leaned heavily on material from 1-3K & CD. Sega needs a new iteration of Sonic if they want to (fully) get out of this slump the current Sonic put them in. Generations felt like a good summation of the past two Sonic universes before they try something else.
Part 2 is the best, especially when he gets punished by Iizuka-san's GUN truck creation
To be fair, the rest of the content was horrible aside from a couple of side missions. Unless you really really liked Vector Volleyball.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I completely forgot about his nickname for the current version of Sonic.
No one liked that challenge.RagnarokX said:
No one.
Action Master is really decent, though. Needed more stuff like that (and the shield challenges), showing off abilities and testing out how well you used them.
I thought Colours was good despite it leaning on the platforming with power-ups side of things as opposed to speeding through everything.blanco21 said:
Professor Beef
Banned
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Well Iizuka said we were going to experience the handheld history of Sonic in Generations 3DS last time I saw him laughing in an interview and that turned out to be bull, so this is clearly confirmation that Dimensions is real.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I have no idea how I S-ranked it when I finally got it done. I liked it when I didn't have to do it anymore. It was the challenge preventing me from getting the challenges trophy.
I'd rather find the computer room. :/
Oh yes, I love that interview. "Game Gear? LOL, no."Box of Bunnies said:
It's amazing, then, that the 3DS version ended up having throwbacks to only Colours DS and Rush out of all of the handheld titles. I recall looking at the tiny screens and thinking the Rush level was Apotos because the only things they had revealed up to that point were levels from the console games.Iizuka-sama said:
Iizuka-san / Iizuka-sama laughs at stuff he thinks is stupid I've tended to notice ;p at least in interviews
lol I can't wait till summer of Sonic, theres going to be Iizuka-san Q&A, and someone is bound to ask him about classic Sonic, i expect lots of laughter when that happens.
sonic 4 episode 2 let's play
the ballish channel made this trailer quite obviously, Sonic1/mariotehplumber doesn't have that kind of skill, but this should be funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywdnLF_RRc
the ballish channel made this trailer quite obviously, Sonic1/mariotehplumber doesn't have that kind of skill, but this should be funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywdnLF_RRc
DeVeAn
Member
The Steam registry entry has been updated, the Beta Version ID was changed from version 12 to version 13:
I didn't get an update ah well.