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[inm8num2]

Peter Weller on 'Sons of Anarchy's' moral code and gun control - VIDEO


'Sons of Anarchy': Maggie Siff talks Tara's next step after explosive season premiere

I've gotta say I'm thankful to EW for having a dedicated SoA writer in Mandi Bierly.

 

[WarrenMax007]

Yeah, i didn't like this episode very much.
School shooting was poorly executed. It felt like they were trying to pull of Breaking Bad season 5A spoiler

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with train robbery and kid.

but it felt like Meh.
I didn't like how it was shot.

 

[inm8num2]

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

The kid doesn't need to have a main relationship to the plot. It could have even been a kid who's related to a gangbanger from a random crew we've never seen before, and the idea behind that scene would be the same.

I just thought it felt real hammy being unconnected. This show really has not done that before, and it felt out of place since normally everything is so interconnected.

 

[inm8num2]

I just thought it felt real hammy being unconnected. This show really has not done that before, and it felt out of place since normally everything is so interconnected.

He was connected. Daughter of woman who is boning Nero's cousin who got guns from the club.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Daughter of woman who is boning Nero's cousin

Yup.

I'd feel differently if it was an older Abel or something.

It's weird because normally I'd be all over this kind of thing, but it felt real contrived the way this show did it.

 

[demolitio]

Yup.

I'd feel differently if it was an older Abel or something.

It's weird because normally I'd be all over this kind of thing, but it felt real contrived the way this show did it.

I agree 100%. Everyone I watched the premiere with had the same feelings. It just didn't fit in and felt forced which is not something you want to feel when it's doing something like that. Very few shows do it right without feeling like it was forced in there for "other" reasons.

At least Tig cracked me up as usual.

 

[Oblivion]

Am I the only one that didn't like the introduction of the U.S. Marshall as his role as the lead antagonist in this season? It felt really sudden that this dude showed up after his sister, who was a no-name character in the series up until that point.

Are you really surprised about Jax doing that? Did you just start watching? He has always been fucking with other women even when he was in relationships.

It's nothing new or shocking.

Incorrect.

Yes, Jax has boinked other women in the past, but all those other times his and Tara's relationship was on the rocks. More importantly, they weren't married during those moments of infidelity.

 

[Persona7]

Every time I see the "T" word I wonder about what could have been.


I liked the episode, I wonder if the ending is going to be focused on in future episodes.

 

[a secret-boss]

man he likes his montage.

good premiere. I bet it falls apart in the finale

 

[inm8num2]

Tig relieving himself.

 

[tokkun]

I just thought it felt real hammy being unconnected. This show really has not done that before, and it felt out of place since normally everything is so interconnected.

Isn't it a little early to complain about it being unconnected? Maybe it serves as the basis for a major plotline this season. Would it have been better if it had happened off-camera?

 

[Vintage_Creep]

CCH Pounder, based on the trailer, will play like a teacher of the school of something. How can you say the shooting it's random. Jesus.

 

[inm8num2]

CCHP is playing a DA.

As for the "randomness" discussion, the shooting would have been random had that scene not been preceded by others with the kid. By showing the kid, who is loosely related to the club through Nero's cousin, we the viewers make a connection. We also assume that the consequences of the shooting will trace back to the club and weigh heavily on the season's events.

 

[inm8num2]

‘SOA’ Creator Kurt Sutter Reacts To PTC Outrage Over Season Debut

“These guys turning these guns out on the street, selling them to people, unaware of who’s using them and what they’re being used for — to suggest that those guns could not fall into the hands of people that were going to hurt other people, including children … that’s ignorant … that’s almost more irresponsible.”

That should allay some fears about whether or not Sutter will address the consequences of the shooting.

Also a WTFSutter episode in which Kurt discusses reactions to the premiere.

 

[lazybones18]

PTC can go fuck themselves

 

[hey_monkey]

Just finally watched the premiere. That... I get why they did it. But oh, my heart. My heart. The blood on the windows.

 

[inm8num2]

EW article on Sutter's comments regarding the PTC.

I say good on him. People are mis-characterizing the inclusion of the school shooting and what it's supposed to mean.

Some of the top comments on that story also hit the nail on the head.

 

[xenist]

Sutter probably masturbates at the thought of groups like PTC whining about his shows. I bet he was giggling like a Japanese schoolgirl when he found out.

 

[Dan]

This show is so crazily violent and sadistic that I thought for a second Tig was going to rape the guy's corpse.

Anyway, I like the concept of dealing with a school shooting quite a lot, with the the MC having funneled the gun that was used. I don't necessarily have much faith in the show executing it well. It's just not invested in Charming. The show is too insular to the MC, we really don't see any perspectives of this world from the anyone not tied to the MC.

 

[Deified Data]

I just thought it felt real hammy being unconnected. This show really has not done that before, and it felt out of place since normally everything is so interconnected.

Dude, every problem is "unconnected" to the Sons until it becomes their problem. The shooting was carried out with one of their guns. There's a very clear cause and effect relationship here.

 

[Oblivion]

Can I also just mention that "Zero Dark shithead" is not a clever insult?

 

[xenist]

I didn't know it had to be. Did it come from a clever man?

 

[Oblivion]

What if the man in question thinks he's clever?

 

[Deified Data]

Can I also just mention that "Zero Dark shithead" is not a clever insult?

I don't know what you expected...

 

[Funky Papa]

Dude, every problem is "unconnected" to the Sons until it becomes their problem. The shooting was carried out with one of their guns. There's a very clear cause and effect relationship here.

The shooting was not only carried out with one of their guns, but apparently by the kid of some woman one of Nero's guys was seeing.

 

[strafer]

Can I also just mention that "Zero Dark shithead" is not a clever insult?

I didn't get that?

 

[Mononoke]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. But I'm surprised that so many people are outraged over this. Especially given how much the show has done before (and we never heard a peep).

 

[Vintage_Creep]

I didn't get that?

Yeah it was stupid as shit, but it made me chuckle. I love random insults

 

[inm8num2]

Almost to the new episode. Less than 24 hours.

 

[Cornballer]

Finally caught up on this tonight. Felt like SoA...

Anyway, I like the concept of dealing with a school shooting quite a lot, with the the MC having funneled the gun that was used. I don't necessarily have much faith in the show executing it well.

Yeah, that's more or less my take on it. Will be interesting to see how they handle it.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Isn't it a little early to complain about it being unconnected? Maybe it serves as the basis for a major plotline this season. Would it have been better if it had happened off-camera?

I have no doubt it will be a pivot for the series. I'm just saying, for me, it felt shoehorned.

 

[Cornballer]

New episode tonight:

One One Six

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Jax deals with collateral damage as external pressure continues to stack up against SAMCRO.

Note that it's another 90 minute episode tonight.

 

[Cornballer]

- Collider: Maggie Siff Talks SONS OF ANARCHY Season 6

 

[Vintage_Creep]

Again 60 minutes of anarchy? How many one-hour episodes for this season?

 

[lazybones18]

Never leave a junkie bitch alone when she can get access to a gun

 

[Rollo Tomasi]

Peter Weller directed this episode.

 

[ThisWreckage]

What is with Tara's awful hair cut and weight gain?

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

Seemed kind of random/forced of them to kill Navarro there.

Can anybody explain that to me? Was Nero trying to shoot the girl and missed or what? Doesn't make sense.

 

[Cornballer]

- Onion A|V Club review
- HitFix review
- EW.com: Theo Rossi and Maggie Siff talk 'One One Six'
- Sons of Anarchy 6x03 Promo "Poenitentia" (please spoiler tag any discussion)

 

[TheSadRanger]

What is with Tara's awful hair cut and weight gain?

I don't know but Maggie Siff the actress that plays her might be pregnant. On tonight's episode

Spoiler

she asked her old boss for some blood work for a pregnancy test

The haircut gives me some serious Lena Headey TSCC vibes though.

Nero

Spoiler

killed Navarro because he was about to run away with his girlfriend. I don't know if thats a good reason but its all I can think of.

 

[inm8num2]

Good episode. Dave Navarro is a terrible actor - won't miss him.

Sepinwall, SoA and Sutter's biggest fan, was saying last week that 3 episodes into the season the show hasn't capitalized on exploring the fallout and consequences of the shooting. I think that's premature, as nobody would judge an entire season of a tv show based on 25% of the air time. They can't know what's going to happen. Sutter's seasons sometimes get a little sloppy in the middle with all the simultaneous plots, but it usually comes together by the end.

It seems like Sutter is basically showing that Samcro is not handling their role in the shooting well by focusing so much on protecting their own asses that Jax would have the mother sent to Belize. I doubt Sutter lets Jax and the Sons come out of this unscathed or unpunished. Then you have Bobby picking up another rider. I think Samcro is toast by the end of this season, and Jax is going to be left with practically nothing. Tara will be gone, the kids will be gone, and the club will be gone.

In short there's still time to explore and expand upon the fallout from the shooting. We're just a day into it within the show's timeline.

 

[inm8num2]

Also throwing a little help to Cornballer.

IGN review
Collider review
Lengthy EW recap

 

[Steelyuhas]

West coast, half an hour in, did they just imply that Jax turned Tara in for the connection with Otto?

 

[TheSadRanger]

Good episode. Dave Navarro is a terrible actor - won't miss him.

Sepinwall, SoA and Sutter's biggest fan, was saying last week that 3 episodes into the season the show hasn't capitalized on exploring the fallout and consequences of the shooting. I think that's premature, as nobody would judge an entire season of a tv show based on 25% of the air time. They can't know what's going to happen. Sutter's seasons sometimes get a little sloppy in the middle with all the simultaneous plots, but it usually comes together by the end.

It seems like Sutter is basically showing that Samcro is not handling their role in the shooting well by focusing so much on protecting their own asses that Jax would have the mother sent to Belize. I doubt Sutter lets Jax and the Sons come out of this unscathed or unpunished. Then you have Bobby picking up another rider. I think Samcro is toast by the end of this season, and Jax is going to be left with practically nothing. Tara will be gone, the kids will be gone, and the club will be gone.

In short there's still time to explore and expand upon the fallout from the shooting. We're just a day into it within the show's timeline.

Well said, I can't believe that Jax

Spoiler

lied to Nero in his face right after he had Juice kill Navarro's girlfriend

Smitts did a really great job in this episode.

I don't know if anyone else has been watching it live but the commercial breaks have been long as hell for these past two 90 minute episodes. I really wish I had just recorded em and watched later.

 

[strafer]

What is with Tara's awful hair cut and weight gain?

She looks waaaaaaaay better now.

 

[Oblivion]

What is Bobby planning on doing, exactly? Creating his own MC, with blackjack and hookers?

 

[strafer]

Also this show needs to stop using jesus christ...it's getting awkward.

 

[Vintage_Creep]

The premiére was better, and I missed the new characters in this episode. CCH has aged a lot... Navarro actor was indeed dreadful. Nothing much to see actually.
Oh yeah I love how that Irish pronounces Clay's name. "Clya".

 

[strafer]

What is Bobby up too?