Sony announces Xperia Touch projector
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What A Time To Be Alive
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This is cool but nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lactose_Intolerant
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Has anyone every used a keyboard that used this type of technology? I remember seeing a product that did that.
Marty Chinn
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$1500? Sony seemed to be too preoccupied with if they could without considering if they should...
Peterthumpa
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Well, it's definitely a niche product but placing one of these things on the kitchen counter, for example, sounds pretty cool, specially when it turns on automatically when someone is nearby, just feels futuristic as fuck. But yeah, not cheap.
KraftyKrankins
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1500? There's much cheaper versions of the same idea already on the market.
Marty Chinn
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I don't discount that there are some interesting ways that it can be used, like the kitchen counter example, but the functionality they showed there doesn't seem to justify the price tag at all. Sure it'll come down in time, but it just seems way too premature to be a consumer product.
Lil'DigiOp
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This is a Batman/Ironman toy level gadget.
Cool as hell but expensive and utterly pointless
Cool as hell but expensive and utterly pointless
vivftp
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Links?
I remember reading more about this a couple days ago. Sony knows it won't be a massive mover at that price, but they're looking ahead in the coming years when such a device will be available at a more mainstream price and be far more advanced.
I dunno if I'd ever see myself owning such a device, but it still seems cool for what it is. I wonder how good the picture looks in a dark room when it's projecting an 80" image...
MadJackChurchill
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"Well our PlayStation division's bringing us back to profit, TIME TO SPEND IT MAKING USELESS CRAP!!!"
- Sony, inventor of the virtual racket, the $1000 e-ink paper, the HMD-01, the Mylo, and the projector touch screen.
- Sony, inventor of the virtual racket, the $1000 e-ink paper, the HMD-01, the Mylo, and the projector touch screen.
rrvv
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Sony been doing that since beginning thought
vivftp
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We know this has been in the R&D phase for some time now. I think Sony decided that along that R&D journey to what they eventually hope this will become, it was now good enough to be a consumer product, just not a mainstream one. So they continue on with their R&D, maybe make a bit of money from the small amount of units sold, and use this to learn more about where this tech could go. Seems pretty normal for them, really.
As for the $1000 e-ink reader, last I had read it seemed pretty popular with professionals. And the HMD line likely contributed a fair amount to what would eventually become PSVR.
Just because it's becoming a consumer product doesn't mean it's the end of the line of what it could be.
KraftyKrankins
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http://www.touchjet.com/pond/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjETHULN2U0
Mostly the same thing, unless I'm missing something very obvious. Also around 450-500 in most retailers.
Surface of Me
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Reminds me of the smart table MS had a few years back.
Sony does what Microsoftdont.
Sony does what Microsoftdont.
vivftp
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Very similar idea, the Sony one just seems to be a more advanced variant. That one requires a proprietary pen to interact with the projection (looks like it can support up to 4 pens) while the Sony one lets you use your fingers and supports 10 point multi-touch. The projector resolution is also higher, 854 x 480 at 80 lumens on the Pond and 1366x768 at 100 lumens on the Sony. Plus the internal are just a bit better on the Sony (more internal storage and whatnot).
Anyways, yup it's definitely the same idea based on what I can see. Whether the bump in specs and functionality are worth it? I dunno, I'm not buying either one, lol.
vivftp
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Android 7.0 doesn't have software support?
But yeah, doubt this will sell huge amounts. Not that anyone, including Sony, are expecting it to.
I admire that they at least tried to get realistic representation of how this projects (projector ads are notoriously deceptive) but they forgot that it's impossible to project black. The darkest parts of these photos don't make sense. The blacks of a projected picture are only as dark as the wall it's being projected on.
It's better to make the same things everyone else is making instead, right?
The fact that HMD 01 evolved into the PlayStationVR in your example just highlights how silly your opinion is. New technology is expensive.
MadJackChurchill
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When their most profitable divisions are phone camera sensors and PlayStation, I don't think any investor would think "this Sony Xperia projector is a wise product to market".
It's certainly expensive to begin with, but what's the point of releasing a product like this with very little software to support it? Imagine if Nintendo released the Switch 0.5 as a screen with Wii remotes stuck to the side, and two games that supported it. Would that be a smart business move?
BlackGoku03
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True. This could be used for a future PlayStation portable.
Yes?
Goddamn, how cynical are you lot? We're looking at a device that enables me to literally touch a completely plain wall that has some light projected onto it, and that somehow manipulates a computer. This is impressive and if it's not entirely practical or worth it for value it damn sure has the potential to be.
In the 90s: "How useless is a touch screen? It's just a flashy way of doing stuff I can already do with a mouse. What a colossal waste of money." It's healthy to develop cool new ideas where, even if you yourself don't land on a winning formula, you open up the possibilities for others to do so.
I mean, I've often been bamboozled with the number of different computer devices we're all currently buying just to have different form factors. Some of us own a smartphone, a tablet, a laptop and a television. All ostensibly the same thing: a general computer that allows us to input information and consume media, but the different form factors emphasise slightly different things. Wouldn't it be ideal to combine all of this into one?
And obviously in its current format, this isn't going to be a solution, but I can now somewhat tangibly picture a projection device that has the ability to project onto different sized mattes, from 4" to 70" depending on our needs. That seems like pretty impressive technology to me, one that's worth developing.
poppedcollar69
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this makes me sad cause it really makes me realize that we're gonna get all the cool future tech that people were predicting in the 1950s, but it'll be after i'm dead
bitbydeath
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Sony likes to pioneer technology, there was no cds, dvds or blu-rays before Sony made them either.
radios shipping overview
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This is really, really cool, and I hope the tech works well when it hits retail.
Yeah, they do this a lot. Good on them. They released the first desktop OLED monitor (that I'm aware of) and the first full-frame digital point & shoot camera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1
http://www.sony.com/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx1-rx1r
Yeah, they do this a lot. Good on them. They released the first desktop OLED monitor (that I'm aware of) and the first full-frame digital point & shoot camera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1
http://www.sony.com/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx1-rx1r
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I gotta be honest, I thought the Xperia brand had died off.
This. Everything is better when built into a phone or tablet.
This. Everything is better when built into a phone or tablet.
GuitarAtomik
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Kind of cool. Not $1500 cool, but I like the direction. This would be cool in a smartwatch that projected your phone screen on your wrist.
GTP_Daverytimes
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If anyone else but Sony did this it'll be cool and no mind would be paid to the price, it's like people don't know that new tech is expensive.
Apple would make it the next big thing but double the price.... Its okay though since its Apple.
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Hmm I wonder if we keep the spec, price, etc etc the same but swap the name from Sony to Apple, Samsung, LG, MS. Do we get the same reaction?
hydrophilic attack
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next step pls: implement this stuff into your phones so they don't become completely unusable after getting a tiny nick in the screen :/
vivftp
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Here is a video showing off some of the other concept stuff they showed at MWC
https://youtu.be/XkXp4zRgWXg
https://youtu.be/XkXp4zRgWXg
GuitarAtomik
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You would from me. Again, I think it's cool, but even if I had an extra $1500 lying around, I wouldn't buy it. I would at a lower price though.
MadJackChurchill
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Difference is, Samsung, Apple and MS actually make software around their crazy ideas. Sony does nothing of the sort.
It's an android device. What software do you want for Sony to make? Games like airhocky etc? Because they made those.
At those kind of prices they don't care, hence the prices. They'll have filed a bunch of patents and got useful info from making it, it's what they've done since forever.
Dreams-Visions
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Sony is back to making random shit just because they can, I see. The glory days of the late 90s and early 2000s.
Same here.
you do realize that technology and innovation takes time? Just remember the first consumer cell phones looked like this in 1983:
It took 34 years to get to the first Iphone. So first gen stuff will undoubtedly cost a lot of money and not useful for a lot of people, but you got to start somewhere. And at least Sony is trying to do something new instead of making thinner tvs and bigger cell phones. Oh wait, they're doing that too. nvm.
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I admire that they at least tried to get realistic representation of how this projects (projector ads are notoriously deceptive) but they forgot that it's impossible to project black. The darkest parts of these photos don't make sense. The blacks of a projected picture are only as dark as the wall it's being projected on.
I don't understand projection that well but how is this true? Aren't almost all cinema screens/projector screens white?
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