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Sony Gamescom 2014 press conference confirmed for August 12

Singaporn

Banned
Not expecting much from anybody, but we'll see. Last years TGS was where sony was announcing game after game so I'm more hyped for TGS than this personally.
 
I know you're probably gonna get banned, but before you are, I have to ask: If you weren't referring to Microsoft when you were posting stuff like



Who were you referring to? Because I don't recall any old Nintendo IPs being brought back at E3.

He was at the Bandai Wonderswan HD conference that we all missed.
 

zeromcd73

Member
Not expecting much from anybody, but we'll see. Last years TGS was where sony was announcing game after game so I'm more hyped for TGS than this personally.

Secret SCEJ PS4 game will be TLG and everyone will cheer at Sony delivering the best Gamescom ever. I can feel it!
Please...
 

Amir0x

Banned
Wasn't really on their main conference (Direct) no?
Just a blurry image on a screen, without mentioning Star Fox (if I remember correctly).

I mean, it was announced. No they didn't show any gameplay during the conference that I remember. But, that is an example of Nintendo bring back an old IP
 

MrHoot

Member
just look how ridiculous this sounds. Powers was a miniscule fraction of the entire conference, which was basically swamped in games. I wouldn't have had the Powers presentation there, but if you're willing to call an entire conference shitty for that, that would make you an extremist, not a rational thinker.

Not called the entire conference "shitty" but "lackluster". Stop putting words into my mouth to try to make your argument more sound. Powers was bad, you can make a 30 seconds search on google to get opinion and that would make it.

Again, you turned basically a comment I had of just "I didn't like Sony's e3, hope gamescom is better" into a whole troll thread

Good for you to know the "majority" of the PS4 userbase :)
Seems like you're an expert.

The ps4 userbase wasn't the only one watching sony's conference. Stop trying to turn this into a "me vs you" thing.

Never have I said ps4 has no games.
Never have I said that the e3 was "complete shit", just lackluster.

I basically complained about not having that much stuff for the end of the year. I then replied to a few games proposed with my opinions

But you're so freaking asshurt you're taking this as an attack against Sony
 
Wasn't really on their main conference (Direct) no?
Just a blurry image on a screen, without mentioning Star Fox (if I remember correctly).

It was just a clip of Miyamoto sitting on a chair holding a pad going 'neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww pew pew brrrrrrrrrrrnnnneewwws dddddaaaaadddddafdsdadfd neewoooooooooooooo swooosh!'.

It looked awesome.

But you're so freaking asshurt you're taking this as an attack against Sony
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So funny watching an owl in a hat cuss people bad.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Not called the entire conference "shitty" but "lackluster". Stop putting words into my mouth to try to make your argument more sound. Powers was bad, you can make a 30 seconds search on google to get opinion and that would make it.

Again, you turned basically a comment I had of just "I didn't like Sony's e3, hope gamescom is better" into a whole troll thread

Use whatever term you want. Every single reason so far you called it lackluster or shitty or whatever word you want to use has been disproven. Your CG argument? Factually incorrect. Your gameplay argument? Factually incorrect. Your old IP argument? Factually incorrect.

I have no problem with you thinking Sony's conference is the worst piece of shit ever in time. My favorite conference this year was Nintendo's by far. But, I do have a problem where you're going to try to make bullshit up to support your position.
 

Singaporn

Banned
Secret SCEJ PS4 game will be TLG and everyone will cheer at Sony delivering the best Gamescom ever. I can feel it!
Please...

Oh I saw that rumor, I think if anything it'll be a smaller/newer title, can't see them (re)announcing TLG or any of the supposed JRPGs that are rumored to be in the works. I would love to be wrong though.

It's probably gravity rush 2 if anything.
 

MrHoot

Member
I know you're probably gonna get banned, but before you are, I have to ask: If you weren't referring to Microsoft when you were posting stuff like



Who were you referring to? Because I don't recall any old Nintendo IPs being brought back at E3.

Mostly Nintendo. They did announce star fox (although blurry stuff, but that was an announcement). Also a new yoshi only game similar to yoshi story.

Also yes, Microsoft did bring back Killer instinct and Phantom Dust. Nothing is really known of the last one though so no opinion on that.

I don't know why would I get banned though ? Seems a bit abusive for simply not agreeing with the majority here
 
lol
Good for you to know the "majority" of the PS4 userbase :)
Seems like you're an expert.




Amen to that :)

btw.
Can't wait to finally play Bloodborne on wednesday ^_^

I'm on Bloodborne blackout. All I want to see are general pics but not showcasing too much.

Demons Souls came out of left field and then entire experience was a fresh one. I didn't even know what the game graphically looked like lol. I just heard about this game that prided itself on being difficult and well, I love a challenge. So picked it up as soon as it hit stores.

I kind of liked that feeling of pure discovery with the game too, not knowing anything about it except a little about the messaging system and being able to see how other people died via their bloodstain and all that. Everything else though, all new. Loved that. I want it again with Bloodborne. Demons Souls was my GOTG so yeah, seeing Bloodborne .. Miyazaki getting together again with Sony Japan and putting out a fresh product ... phew, gonna be huge.
 

zeromcd73

Member
Oh I saw that rumor, I think if anything it'll be a smaller/newer title, can't see them (re)announcing TLG or any of the supposed JRPGs that are rumored to be in the works. I would love to be wrong though.

It's probably gravity rush 2 if anything.
I'm not very knowledgeable about the industry, but would Sony really organise an event for the press to play a 30 minute demo of the game if it wasn't a big deal?

That's what has got me hyped up that it might be something big. Cat/bird/rat chimera size big :)
 

MrHoot

Member
Use whatever term you want. Every single reason so far you called it lackluster or shitty or whatever word you want to use has been disproven. Your CG argument? Factually incorrect. Your gameplay argument? Factually incorrect. Your old IP argument? Factually incorrect.

I have no problem with you thinking Sony's conference is the worst piece of shit ever in time. My favorite conference this year was Nintendo's by far. But, I do have a problem where you're going to try to make bullshit up to support your position.

Again, i didn't say it was the worst piece of shit of all time. I didn't mean it, at least

I don't want to be seen as a villain here so I'll concede that I did use hyperbole and I shouldn't have. I respectuflly apologize. I don't agree with everything but seeing as this will not lead to something good, I'll stop at this post on the matter.

Nevertheless, i'm excited to go to gamescom. I am reaaaaally interested in trying out Bloodborne, and well as much as I badmouth the order, i'm itnerested in trying it. I'm hopeful it will prove me wrong

So funny watching an owl in a hat cuss people bad.

I know right ? That image is fucking great for that
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Mostly Nintendo. They did announce star fox (although blurry stuff, but that was an announcement). Also a new yoshi only game similar to yoshi story.

Also yes, Microsoft did bring back Killer instinct and Phantom Dust. Nothing is really known of the last one though so no opinion on that.

I don't know why would I get banned though ? Seems a bit abusive for simply not agreeing with the majority here

You will get banned because you have an anti-Sony agenda and have decided to express it in a Sony thread. When people have pointed out your bias you have just said that they are butt-hurt because they don't agree with you.

Anyone one know what time in the east coast i can catch the conference stream?

about 1pm I think
 

Bundy

Banned
I'm on Bloodborne blackout. All I want to see are general pics but not showcasing too much.

Demons Souls came out of left field and then entire experience was a fresh one. I didn't even know what the game graphically looked like lol. I just heard about this game that prided itself on being difficult and well, I love a challenge. So picked it up as soon as it hit stores.

I kind of liked that feeling of pure discovery with the game too, not knowing anything about it except a little about the messaging system and being able to see how other people died via their bloodstain and all that. Everything else though, all new. Loved that. I want it again with Bloodborne. Demons Souls was my GOTG so yeah, seeing Bloodborne .. Miyazaki getting together again with Sony Japan and putting out a fresh product ... phew, gonna be huge.
I just want to know how it plays.
If it's more like Demon Souls, or more like a different game (more action, less..... RPG-ish). Will be interesting. But I won't play much ;)
(I hope :p )
 

Amir0x

Banned
Again, i didn't say it was the worst piece of shit of all time. I didn't mean it, at least

No I wasn't saying you thought that. I was saying that even if your position was as extreme as that, I wouldn't have a problem with that - as long as you supported such a position with what actually happened at the conference. My issue was that you were saying you had all these problems with the conference, but none of the problems turned out to actually be true. So, one gets the impression that you either didn't watch it yourself or you have a really fuzzy memory or you keep searching google for "WHY DO PEOPLE HATE THE SONY E3 CONFERENCE".

Nevertheless, i'm excited to go to gamescom. I am reaaaaally interested in trying out Bloodborne, and well as much as I badmouth the order, i'm itnerested in trying it.

Well, we can agree to this :)
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Why is this thread now suddenly about the one guy who doesn't like the Sony games on offer?

Ignore. Move on, everyone's entitled to their opinion. Christ.
 

MrHoot

Member
You will get banned because you have an anti-Sony agenda and have decided to express it in a Sony thread. When people have pointed out your bias you have just said that they are butt-hurt because they don't agree with you.

That seems harsh. I don't think I have an agenda, I mostly got frustrated because I was met with a lot of condescending remarks and overly defensive retorts, but as above, I apologize for detracting the thread
 

Amir0x

Banned
Why is this thread now suddenly about the one guy who doesn't like the Sony games on offer?

Ignore. Move on, everyone's entitled to their opinion. Christ.

It's not about being entitled to ones opinion. It's about making up nonsense to support one's opinion. if you don't like hearing it, you move on. Nobody on GAF is going to go unchallenged in such a scenario.
 

delSai

Member
Not expecting much from anybody, but we'll see. Last years TGS was where sony was announcing game after game so I'm more hyped for TGS than this personally.

Yeah, TGS was pretty cool. Too bad we havent seen anything from the new Gundam Game or EDF so far.

I've a feeling that we will see some cool Games, i don't care if they are Indie, Triple A, Free to Play or whatever. Games are Games. Also excited to try out Bloodborne :p
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I just want to know how it plays.
If it's more like Demon Souls, or more like a different game (more action, less..... RPG-ish). Will be interesting. But I won't play much ;)
(I hope :p )

I know this is probably blasphemy to the Soul's fans but I'm hoping it's slightly different somehow. I could never get into the series before, and it wasn't for lack of trying. I'm Bloodborne draws me in a bit more.
 

MrHoot

Member
Well, we can agree to this :)

What I'm particularily excited to see in BB is how they'll move to a more "fast paced" type. All the previous Souls game were rather slow and favoured a defensive play (didn't mind it one bit but that's how it was for most of the time unless you were really good at dodging).

What I'd freaking LOVE is to have more movement options like hanging from ledges, a better jump, and level design that is adapted for that and verticality. I always got frustrated in souls when you get blocked by just a shitty little wall :p

I know this is probably blasphemy to the Soul's fans but I'm hoping it's slightly different somehow. I could never get into the series before, and it wasn't for lack of trying. I'm Bloodborne draws me in a bit more

I don't think it would be blasphemy. A lot of souls fan, or at least the one I frequent, expect it to be different. After souls 2, some people got a little bit tired of the formula so I think most will be open to at least a bit of change will retaining the idea of challenge which made the old souls great
 

Percy

Banned
Mostly Nintendo. They did announce star fox (although blurry stuff, but that was an announcement). Also a new yoshi only game similar to yoshi story.

Also yes, Microsoft did bring back Killer instinct and Phantom Dust. Nothing is really known of the last one though so no opinion on that.

I don't know why would I get banned though ? Seems a bit abusive for simply not agreeing with the majority here

So you did bring Microsoft into this initially basically? Then you went off on another member for using MS as 'deflection'? BTW, that Yoshi game was announced at the start of 2013 and it's not an 'old IP' by any stretch if the imagination. There was a new Yoshi game released on 3DS not that long ago.

And you'll probably be banned for you persistent insulting of other members and usage of straight bullshit revisionism to support your arguments. Seen it happen before is all I'm saying.
 

Amir0x

Banned
What I'm particularily excited to see in BB is how they'll move to a more "fast paced" type. All the previous Souls game were rather slow and favoured a defensive play (didn't mind it one bit but that's how it was for most of the time unless you were really good at dodging).

What I'd freaking LOVE is to have more movement options like hanging from ledges, a better jump, and level design that is adapted for that and verticality. I always got frustrated in souls when you get blocked by just a shitty little wall :p

Well we know some of the strategy goes into utilizing your shotgun for stuns. Since we have no shield, that'll be the primary way of stopping an enemy in their tracks so you can dodge what's coming.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
It's not about being entitled to ones opinion. It's about making up nonsense to support one's opinion. if you don't like hearing it, you move on. Nobody on GAF is going to go unchallenged in such a scenario.

This happens in every thread related to the new current-gen consoles. Every single one.

I just hate the fact that I have to read an entire 200 posts dedicated to one person with poorly-thought out arguments. A pathetic back-and-forth with neither side ever admitting defeat.

I don't give a damn about 'putting him/her in his place' or anything. I just want to see discussion about the thread's topic.
 

Amir0x

Banned
This happens in every thread related to the new current-gen consoles. Every single one.

I just hate the fact that I have to read an entire 200 posts dedicated to one person with poorly-thought out arguments. A pathetic back-and-forth with neither side ever admitting defeat.

I don't give a damn about 'putting him/her in his place' or anything. I just want to see discussion about the thread's topic.

This thread is about a Gamescom conference and what people expect from it. This guy said he was disappointed by E3's conference so didn't know what to think about Gamescom. Then he gave his reasons he was disappointed with the E3 conference, all of which were untrue.

This is a natural conversation. I enjoy having them. You don't have to enjoy having them of course. But then in such a case it seems you should listen to your own prescription and "ignore" the posts you don't like.

Edit: And in any event, if it does go too far, a mod will come in and tell us to stop. It's happened many times, so just let it happen.
 

Salex_

Member
That seems harsh. I don't think I have an agenda, I mostly got frustrated because I was met with a lot of condescending remarks and overly defensive retorts, but as above, I apologize for detracting the thread

People aren't being defensive, they're calling you out on your objectively wrong comments. You're free to not like something, but you can't ignore the reality and make shit up to push your narrative.

If you go into any Nintendo, Xbox, or PC oriented thread, you'll people react the same way. They'll inform you and question your purpose being in a thread posting false information.
 

MrHoot

Member
People aren't being defensive, they're calling you out on your objectively wrong comments. You're free you not like something, but you can't ignore the reality and make shit up to push your narrative.

If you go into any Nintendo, Xbox, or PC oriented thread, you'll people react the same way. They'll inform you and question your purpose being in a thread posting false information.

Right right, i'm more used to generalist threads so again, I apologize for the rudeness. My comments were subjective in places


Well we know some of the strategy goes into utilizing your shotgun for stuns. Since we have no shield, that'll be the primary way of stopping an enemy in their tracks so you can dodge what's coming.

That, and there's also the "roaming, hunting" pack of ennemies which I think would be really cool.
Hoping the collaboration with SCEJ will make them able to push the AI a bit. It's maybe one of the weaker point of the older souls game as a lot of them felt a bit...stiff ? Liek once you analyzed the movement and aggression pattern it was really easy to counter a lot of future ennemies
 
Maybe, just maybe, Sony/Yoshida didn't quite realize how big of a deal TLG is until the outpouring of shock, anger and sadness at the news that it had been cancelled on the eve of E3.

So maybe - because showing the game at E3 wasn't possible - from that moment onwards Sony made re-revealing TLG a priority for the next major event. Which is Gamescom.

I mean I was half-shocked there wasn't any news on it at E3 tbh.

Ok I'm reaching here. 'Let him dream.'
 
I just want to know how it plays.
If it's more like Demon Souls, or more like a different game (more action, less..... RPG-ish). Will be interesting. But I won't play much ;)
(I hope :p )

Meh, its 100% likely it will " play " almost exactly like the other Souls games. Just in a fresh location with a fresh style and a fresh next-gen coat of paint ( finally ). Demons Souls did look amazing for its time though. First time that Dragon came out and charred the dudes on the bridge I was in awe. Then of course, loved the long bridge section with the dragon circling around and breathing fire on you as you ran across the bridge. Was laughing hysterically watching my overburdened Knight lumber across the field getting blasted in the back with fire.

Maybe, just maybe, Sony/Yoshida didn't quite realize how big of a deal TLG is until the outpouring of shock, anger and sadness at the news that it had been cancelled on the eve of E3.

So maybe - because showing the game at E3 wasn't possible - from that moment onwards Sony made re-revealing TLG a priority for the next major event. Which is Gamescom.

I mean I was half-shocked there wasn't any news on it at E3 tbh.

Ok I'm reaching here. 'Let him dream.'

I would just forget about TLG man, seriously. It is telling we have seen only probably 5 minutes of " gameplay " of the game after 8 years.
 

MrHoot

Member
Maybe, just maybe, Sony/Yoshida didn't quite realize how big of a deal TLG is until the outpouring of shock, anger and sadness at the news that it had been cancelled on the eve of E3.

So maybe - because showing the game at E3 wasn't possible - from that moment onwards Sony made re-revealing TLG a priority for the next major event. Which is Gamescom.

I mean I was half-shocked there wasn't any news on it at E3 tbh.

Ok I'm reaching here. 'Let him dream.'

This is my personal theory of what happened with TLG anyway

So go back to 2009, TLG is announced. Hype all around, people are happy. A first ICO game for the ps3. Although little detail is given

Come TGS 2010 with a new trailer, more gameplay snippets, even a release window.

Although in house, this is what I think was happening, based on interviews and article. Miyazaki is apparently known for being extremely perfectionist and my take on it is that he tried to remake stuff times and times again. Problem is that the ps3 hardware was showing it's age at the time. That, and if we go by that old kotaku article (trust me, it's actually a good one) about Japan Studio at the time, the hierarchy and organisation was a mess, with probably a couple dozen projects done on the side.

My guess is that they tried for a while to make the game work for ps3 to no avail, then Miyazaki left the team but still kept an eye on it.

Not too long after, I guess they got wind that a ps4 devkit was being made and would be available and thus decided to halt production until they get a stable ps4 devkit to rework the game

Then comes ps4 release and they probably had to rework a lot of stuff from scratch to accomodate the hardware, and since so much had to be done and it's kind of a big deal to move platforms, they want to stay silent on it.

That's my tinfoil hat theory, but it seems rather plausible in some way. The big surprise for me would be if they decided to still keep it as also a ps3 release
 

Amir0x

Banned
TGS will be sega announcing shenmue 3 exclusive to japan with region locking on it.

I joke but it will probably be true.

I don't even like Shenmue but at this point I really want it announced somewhere by any company. Just to see the exploding GAF topic
 

zeromcd73

Member
I don't even like Shenmue but at this point I really want it announced somewhere by any company. Just to see the exploding GAF topic

Shenmue 3DS would be a glorious event to behold.

I was unfortunately not aware of this forum for the FF13 360 and DQ9 DS threads, and would really like to be apart of something epic like them.
 

Bundy

Banned
This is my personal theory of what happened with TLG anyway

So go back to 2009, TLG is announced. Hype all around, people are happy. A first ICO game for the ps3. Although little detail is given

Come TGS 2010 with a new trailer, more gameplay snippets, even a release window.

Although in house, this is what I think was happening, based on interviews and article. Miyazaki is apparently known for being extremely perfectionist and my take on it is that he tried to remake stuff times and times again. Problem is that the ps3 hardware was showing it's age at the time. That, and if we go by that old kotaku article (trust me, it's actually a good one) about Japan Studio at the time, the hierarchy and organisation was a mess, with probably a couple dozen projects done on the side.

My guess is that they tried for a while to make the game work for ps3 to no avail, then Miyazaki left the team but still kept an eye on it.

Not too long after, I guess they got wind that a ps4 devkit was being made and would be available and thus decided to halt production until they get a stable ps4 devkit to rework the game

Then comes ps4 release and they probably had to rework a lot of stuff from scratch to accomodate the hardware, and since so much had to be done and it's kind of a big deal to move platforms, they want to stay silent on it.

That's my tinfoil hat theory, but it seems rather plausible in some way. The big surprise for me would be if they decided to still keep it as also a ps3 release
Miyazaki?
Guess you're talking about Ueda here, right?
 

nbnt

is responsible for the well-being of this island.
Maybe, just maybe, Sony/Yoshida didn't quite realize how big of a deal TLG is until the outpouring of shock, anger and sadness at the news that it had been cancelled on the eve of E3.

So maybe - because showing the game at E3 wasn't possible - from that moment onwards Sony made re-revealing TLG a priority for the next major event. Which is Gamescom.

I mean I was half-shocked there wasn't any news on it at E3 tbh.

Ok I'm reaching here. 'Let him dream.'
Unannounced Japanese title. They showed it in July. This is it, brother. BELIEVE
 
Never have I said that the e3 was "complete shit", just lackluster.

Compared to what?
Neither Microsoft nor Nintendo showed more games.
You'll even have a hard time finding any E3 with more games shown.
And except for the Powers part and Shawn Laydens CEO talk it was all core games.
No Wonderbook, no dancing games, no camera gimmick stuff.
 
Shenmue 3DS would be a glorious event to behold.

I was unfortunately not aware of this forum for the FF13 360 and DQ9 DS threads, and would really like to be apart of something epic like them.

Ace Attorney gameplay with theatrhythm final fantasy-styled QTEs! The Horror! The Horror!
 
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