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Sony Gamescom 2014 press conference confirmed for August 12
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krypt0nian
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That he's listing every possible perceived slight and misstep is quite telling.
I was going to buy a Vita this weekend but so close to Gamescom i might as well wait a few days
I don't think there'll be anything that'll change my decision (even Sony ignoring Vita wouldn't sway me from getting one, as it already has a nice library including PS+ freebies), but you never know. Few days ain't gonna kill me.
I don't think there'll be anything that'll change my decision (even Sony ignoring Vita wouldn't sway me from getting one, as it already has a nice library including PS+ freebies), but you never know. Few days ain't gonna kill me.
ABZU: YES! I loved journey, although I know nothing of this apart from the pretty visuals. Also multiplat apparently, so I dunno if i'd just pick it up on a PC
Grim fandago is great, but that's kinda basic in terms of "rebringing" an old franchise. They're just rereleasing and prettying up the old game. Are we gonna call all rereleases new games now ? What I invisioned by that would be more like making a new game in the line of an old IP (similar to what they did with Killer instinct, for instance) Also multiplatform and i'd rather play that on PC to be honest
Bloodborne: yes yes yes. But also cautious after the faults of dark souls 2
Entwined: Played it on vita, it's okay. Tries a bit too hard to be artistic with less substance than it pretends but it's a competent little game, i appreciated it
The Order, well see above
My only opinion is that I'm not as excited for Sony and want to express caution because, and i'm reaaaally not the only one to think that, their E3 was weak. You don't have to take my word for that, you can take the sources of numerous podcasters (like two best friends), polls on several websites from your average gamer and just general opinion that is outside a circlejerk. So being met with what I think is a reasonable observation by "lol you're just wrong" is obnoxious. And fanboyish
Not to say there's nothing for ps4 that i'm not excited for (Destiny, Evil Within, Bloodborne and Rime to name a few) but they could do much much better after all the trumpets and horns they've touted for a year
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Gaming show around the corner, concern trolls show up. What else is new?
Pound_lb003
Member
Guys, he has an opinion - that's all.
I respectfully disagree, but that's all I can do. I also feel it's premature when we know only a fraction of their first party developed content on it's way.
But his opinion isn't gonna be swayed by us. Lot of unnecessary animosity.
I respectfully disagree, but that's all I can do. I also feel it's premature when we know only a fraction of their first party developed content on it's way.
But his opinion isn't gonna be swayed by us. Lot of unnecessary animosity.
Yeah, wasn't there even more CG at the MS presser?
Jimmyfenix
Member
Yup give me a price cut Sony.
krypt0nian
Banned
gundamkyoukai
Member
Why the hell would RAD want to be stuck on dead system like Vita ?
2 big budget TPS in a year is not a whole lot when they going to be months apart .
Also so using so call general opinions of message boards don't mean much for eg TLOU , WD and Titanfall are current eg of that .
Well, it might. You'll be in a different reality depending upon your choice.
Jimmyfenix
Member
I wonder if we will get some Devolver release dates. I need Hotline Miami 2 on my Vita.
Part of the whole thing was helping them get the Grim Fandango IP back. That has huge implications for the future as well. And illustrates clearer how dedicated Sony is to bringing great IPs back, even when they don't gain complete control over them. Few IPs in all of gaming are as cherished as Grim Fandango. So that's why it's an important counter to your point.
The rest is just you trying to make qualifiers for your own taste. The point is, your assertions were wrong. Most of Sony's games shown were not CG, and they had plenty of compelling new IPs, and they brought back compelling old ones. On each point, you were simply incorrect.
That's not to say you must like those selections. It just means the reason you were dismissing Sony's conference originally was wrong.
Pound_lb003
Member
How can we even make any judgement on The Order just yet?
I have an inkling it'll be way more Uncharted than TLoU, but who knows what it might end up being.
On ps3. I'm talking about reasons to hype up the ps4 here, and eventually the vita if they remember about this
Show me gameplay of these game.
Try to bring up like a 3-4 minute of actual gameplay shown, not just cinematic shots, not justt CG trailers, actual segment of explicit gameplay. The closest we have is Rime and it barely shows us what is actually being played in there
If not, then i'm not hyped, because it's 2014 and i'm not a gullible man who still gets swayed by selected shots and CG
I've watched it, several times even, with friends. Powers wasn't maybe 15 minutes but it was certainly around the 10 minute mark with the new CEO being an absolute slob. Seriously, how can you even deny it was a shitty part of the sony e3. EVERYBODY said it. Even freaking YOSHIDA said it was a mistake.
Again, you guys are painting me like a troll (oh boy, the automatic defense against people who disagrees). I know full well the ps4 will eventually have more stuff. I know guerilla is making stuff. I know japan studio is making stuff. All I said is that after E3, which again, a looot of people called out, I am cautious about gamescom.
Seriously how freaking defensive can you people get when people disagree with you is mindblowing.
Yaser Tech
Member
C'mon guys, not a single mention of AGENT?!
BELIEVE!
you're trying so hard to throw out qualifiers. We absolutely saw RIME gameplay - tons of it in even the first trailer. The way he will be climbing, the way he will be navigating the world. Now your argument is "well, I want them to show specific types of gameplay in far larger chunks or else it doesn't work!"
You keep adding this stuff on top, and when you have to do that it means your point is no longer particularly sound.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
I'm going into the "new hardware sucks, can't even play racing games at 60, funny how old consoles did it" circle jerk. Meet me there!
Jimmyfenix
Member
I am excited to announce that the Playstation 4 version of Grand Theft Auto V will be now known as Agent.
krypt0nian
Banned
Oh hai, I got new lube! Be there as soon as I watch some Sony E3 CGI!!!
But what do you actually do in Rime, what's the incentive, how free are you to climb stuff, what's the dynamic of the world, and what determines it's pacing ?
I'm sorry i'm reformulating all the time. What I'm trying to express is that usually when it comes to a game, I like to know what I'll actually do.
You can compare for example one of the numerous trailer from nintendo's e3 for example, like well Splatoon or Yoshi's Yarn. Let's go with splatoon since that's a new IP. They don't just show you how it looks and the shooting. They show you the mechanics, the super jump, different playstyles. It gives you an indepth look at how the game actually plays. Now repeat that for almost every game they've presented.
Now Rime i'm actually very interested by it because it reminds me of a mix between ICO and wind waker. But right now i can only go from "Okay, there's an island, he can walk around and climb. There's maybe puzzles, i don't know". We also know from an interview he apparently can't attack, or fight, i don't exactly recall.
Other than that, we haven't seen specific puzzley interactions or enemy interactions (we know there are some) or how can the character interact more with the world.
When I say gameplay, i mean like actually watching the game being played. Doesn't need to be live. In fact, if LBP3 showing told us anything, it's better to at least prerecord stuff. But it just inspires me more confidence than story or cinematic snippets
Dangoesforth
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So first you were talking about "I love sony at their best, when they come up with stuff like Journey or Rain or Ico or Puppeteer, not when they're busy gushing over their millions of consoles sold and 15 minutes of fucking POWERS at e3" and we brought you some already announced games and proved you wrong. So now it's "bu... but NO GAMEPLAY videos, meng!" So what's your next step? "I couldn't play it yet!!!! Why isn't it alreay out!" ?
Where was I.... "denying" anything? You were wrong with the "15 minutes" part, period. It was 5 minutes!
And yes, it was a bit too long, but shitty? Sorry bro, but some people are interested in the "Power" series.
Yeah, I'm sure you're the victim here.
Poor guy.
Only thing missing is the big 3rd party exclusives for MS argument.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Microsoft showed CG trailers/teasers for Halo 5, Crackdown, Scalebound(new IP) and Phantom Dust.
Only Forza Horizon 2 and Sunset Overdrive(new IP) got gameplay showings.
How is that any better than what Sony offered?
Sony showed only one CG trailer: Bloodborne(new IP)(gameplay footage got leaked)
They showed gameplay from LBP3, TheOrder1886(new IP) and Driveclub(new IP)
And Uncharted 4 got a realtime ingame cutscene teaser.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
and there it is, the stream-of-consciousness sentence listing all the things Sony have done wrong. You could have saved us all the bother and started with this.
Moving goal posts and backpedalling = reformulating. What a hoot.
You can be cautious about GC, but it seems you want Sony to show their full hand like MS/Nintendo. I hate it too, but I understand that they dont need to show as much as we, the public, like because they are in such a good position. With many of their first party shrouded in mystery, they are still selling the console at high levels. Unlike the other 2, they dont NEED to show their stuff when they can just save them for a later date or spread it out over the 3 major conferences.
I am personally optimistic about what could potentially be shown at GC and Sony's presence there has generally always been quite strong no? Which is not something we can say about the competition.
And somebody at Twitter needs to tweed "Games, Games, Games, breh"
Can I see some examples of this? Because I don't recall anything like this from E3.
This is correct. Whereas every new title MS announced at E3 was accompanied by CG trailers only.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I'm sure the 'Mass Effect 4 will be an XB1 exclusive' rumour trolls will be at it again before E3 2015
That would melt the internet
Watch them troll everyone and name GTA V singleplayer dlc Agent.
The hype for that unknown exclusive was hilarious, so many people had unrealistic expectations.
Jimmyfenix
Member
That could well happen. Sony UK were saying they have exclusive perks for GTA V.
Agent skins pls
IAmRandom31
Banned
What is your point exactly?
You think Sony is shit and doing a bad job with the PS4 so far and " haz no gamez " and yadda yadda, same ol thing from the other trolls.
So get to the point already. Say your piece and move on. Others will fight you on that opinion because a lot of other people are rather enjoying their PS4's and lord knows every week more people buy the PS4 then any other console out there, so it must have plenty of " system sellers " yeah?
Also, if you are whining now then you have never owned a Sony system at launch before. This is how it goes every single generation except this time there are tons of games of all kinds already on the system. You may disagree with everyone else and think every single game on the system is pure shit and hate everything, but thats just your opinion, one not shared by many others. So as much as you like to showcase your opinion that you hate everything, others like just as much to say they hate your opinion. It's a vicious cycle.
And I'm seriously confused as to how anyone could say the Sony conference was bad. That boggles my mind. Just because of a short 15 minute segment. While the other 1 hour 40 minutes or so was gamz gamz gamz!
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Exactly. That essentially ended up being the Platinum Games exclusive right? If so then 20% of GAF will call it the 2nd coming, 70% will like it and 10% will hate it for being 'too japanese'
For whatever it's worth I loved Vanquish and hated Metal Gear Rising
Yes, shitty. Browse outside of Neogaf. Majority didn't give a crap about Powers. Denying that is willingly putting some serious blinders on yourself
And yeah, sorry, but don't expect me to be hype for teasers and cinematic trailers when so many times major companies like to lie through their teeth and bullshot all over the place until the actual product. I'm sorry to have standards, but keep the condescending tone, really makes the fanboy shine through.
Plus you're full of crap. I didn't say lack of games, i said lack of interesting software. Meaning, lack of software that so far would push me into buying a ps4. Why ? Read above. Yeah, they've announced stuff. But it's the equivalent of a movie teaser that only shows the title or a 10 seconds blurry action packed snippet. There's nothing to take of it, so I can't say I am hyped by it because I know nothing of it
And heeeeeere it comes. The "Someobody isn't as hyped as us for sony ? B-b-but microsoft !" deflection. I certainly didn't mention M$, i don't really give a damn about them.
You're gonna tell me it's not a bit accurate ?
But I got it, no badmouthing sony here. My mistake for stepping in thr wrong thread, i'll move to someplace else because i'm detracting the thread
Look, people, you're blowing this out of the proportion I initially imagined.
My main point is: I thought E3 was "meh", i'm still very interested by ps4. There's a lot of of stuff I'm looking forward. But I would like it if Sony's internal western development and their way of presentation was done better so it could get people like me interested. I love sony but i'm also super critical of what they've been doing for the past year and want to seem 'em improve. That's all
lol
Good for you to know the "majority" of the PS4 userbase
Seems like you're an expert.
Amen to that
btw.
Can't wait to finally play Bloodborne on wednesday ^_^
LiquidSolid
Member
Everyone's trying to target his goal posts while he's constantly pushing them backwards, so how about we bring it all back to his original point? The Last of Us, Tearaway, Sly 4, MLB, R&C Nexus and Killzone: Mercenary were all mediocre. Guess I (and a lot of others) just have horrible taste.
Also, the PS4 not only has no games, it has no hype! Doomed.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
just look how ridiculous this sounds. Powers was a miniscule fraction of the entire conference, which was basically swamped in games. I wouldn't have had the Powers presentation there, but if you're willing to call an entire conference shitty for that, that would make you an extremist, not a rational thinker.
And "15 minute of Powers"
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Sony at Gamescom? It's Sony haz no gaems con, more like.
It's tradition!
I know you're probably gonna get banned, but before you are, I have to ask: If you weren't referring to Microsoft when you were posting stuff like
Who were you referring to? Because I don't recall any old Nintendo IPs being brought back at E3.
Star Fox
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