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Not the same, but I have a pair of the 1000xm4 that I use for several hours a day while working. They are the most comfortable pair of headphones I've ever owned. I don't care too much about the noise canceling functionality as I listen to ambient soundscapes when I want to block out the world. But as a balance between comfort, battery power, sound quality, having a nice case, cost, etc. I think they're fantastic.
From what I've seen of reviews, these look like they keep all the features of the xm4, but make the noise canceling better. Unfortunately the MSRP is now $450. Hopefully they'll be on sale regularly like the previous generations.
I was waiting for this after the incredible concord cancelling.
I've traveled everywhere with mine for years, caseless, and there's no issue with build quality. They're a super popular product so things are bound to happen to some people. Could always buy an extended warranty w/ accident protection if it worries you, Sony offers them.Gents, I was interested in these until I read reviews/opinions of both the XM4s and XM5s about broken hinges - seriously, WHAT THE F*UCK, this has been an ongoing issue for YEARS now with everything Sony (headset/headphones) related, the Golds and the Platinums always snapped either at the headband part or the hinges, the newer Pulse and Elite models same thing and apparently, their 400+ (plastic) headphones share the same "feature" ? At this point, I'm willing to say that it's planned obsolescence 'cause I really can't think about anything else.
Frigging shameful that expensive products such as these are "designed" (wink*wink) in such a way for crying out loud...
Meanwhile, my El cheapo 90 Eurodollars Cloud Alphas are still going strong 4 years on due to them being built like a tank (both the headband and hinges are made from aluminum).
I don't get it, personally, after reading about it, I won't go nowhere near them, shame, since the XM4's can be found for 200 nowadays.
I've traveled everywhere with mine for years, caseless, and there's no issue with build quality. They're a super popular product so things are bound to happen to some people. Could always buy an extended warranty w/ accident protection if it worries you, Sony offers them.
It look horrible.
I still have the XM5, works perfectly great after 2 years so I won't buy them.
I'm more interest in the Xperia 1 VII announced the same day
You know they put 4K screens for 5 generations, and every time reviewers were like "this is absolutely useless" ?Man, the vii looks nice but...almost 1500 Eurdollars for a 6.5', 1080p screen in 2025 I just don't know![]()
I still have the XM5, works perfectly great after 2 years so I won't buy them.
I'm more interest in the Xperia 1 VII announced the same day
Honestly I tried a lot of them, none is as appealing as the Sony one. Maybe LG or HTC but they stopped making phones unfortunately.Great phone. But you can get similar great phones for almost half the price. No wonder Sony is utterly niche in the phone market.
I get the preference, but €1500 is insane when the Oneplus 13 is available for around €849 and Samsung S25 Ultra is €999. If the Sony phone was actually priced competitively I think a lot more people would be interested, but that price premium is excessive.Honestly I tried a lot of them, none is as appealing as the Sony one. Maybe LG or HTC but they stopped making phones unfortunately.
And I always find funny that the other manufacturers (Samsung, all the chinese ones) copy Apple when they change things but Apple itself gets inspiration from Sony phones
When One Plus got bought by the company that makes all the other chinese phones (Oppo, Vivo, Realme) it became as bland as the other ones, and as uninspired as they can be, looking all the same, killing the smartphone industry by flooding the market with always the same products since 2017-2018. And they "killed" all the ones making original phones, such as LG, HTC, Motorola, and Sony. Nowadays a new phone doesn't give excitment to anybody.I get the preference, but €1500 is insane when the Oneplus 13 is available for around €849 and Samsung S25 Ultra is €999. If the Sony phone was actually priced competitively I think a lot more people would be interested, but that price premium is excessive.
The original phone market died because consumers don't actually want them. So a safe, by the numbers phone it is. Even the Xperia is the same, other than the headphone jack, it's the same boring phone that everyone basically releases. I'd be interested in one myself, as I like Sony products, but not at that price premium. I own a Bravia 9 85 and the xm4s (as they are quality products with better performance and features vs the competition that validate the price premium), but I just don't get that same "worth it" feeling from the Xperia to justify it.When One Plus got bought by the company that makes all the other chinese phones (Oppo, Vivo, Realme) it became as bland as the other ones, and as uninspired as they can be, looking all the same, killing the smartphone industry by flooding the market with always the same products since 2017-2018. And they "killed" all the ones making original phones, such as LG, HTC, Motorola, and Sony. Nowadays a new phone doesn't give excitment to anybody.
I probably won't buy it right away, will wait for the price to drop, or even look to the previous model, but my Xperia 1 III lasted long enough, and now it's time for a retirement (biggest complaint being of course the battery, after several years).
I have a red magic 10 pro. It's got a headphone jack, an under-screen camera that you can only see when it's working, 144hz screen, apparently really good for games, and rgb that you can use for notifications on the back. They're less than £600.Honestly I tried a lot of them, none is as appealing as the Sony one. Maybe LG or HTC but they stopped making phones unfortunately.
And I'm still using the headphone jack. And I hate phones with holes in the screen or notches. And I like notification LEDs
And I always find funny that the other manufacturers (Samsung, all the chinese ones) copy Apple when they change things but Apple itself gets inspiration from Sony phones
I have a red magic 10 pro. It's got a headphone jack, an under-screen camera that you can only see when it's working, 144hz screen, apparently really good for games, and rgb that you can use for notifications on the back. They're less than £600.
I understand your point. I got my Xperia 1 III at EUR 600 so I'm not too keen on paying 1500 for a phone either, regardless of the brandThe original phone market died because consumers don't actually want them. So a safe, by the numbers phone it is. Even the Xperia is the same, other than the headphone jack, it's the same boring phone that everyone basically releases. I'd be interested in one myself, as I like Sony products, but not at that price premium. I own a Bravia 9 85 and the xm4s (as they are quality products with better performance and features vs the competition that validate the price premium), but I just don't get that same "worth it" feeling from the Xperia to justify it.
I understand your point. I got my Xperia 1 III at EUR 600 so I'm not too keen on paying 1500 for a phone either, regardless of the brand
Replying to thread while wearing WH-1000XM4 at my WFH station.
Yeah I might get these new ones as my default work office headset.
If only it had integrated face tattoo cancelation.
What do you use? Looking at a couple options myself for open ear Bluetooth earbuds.Unless you actually need the noise cancelling feature, i would never use em over open ear headphones.
I only use earbuds for outdoors activities. For gaming and movies been using the Sennheiser HD560s since 2022, and i am not seeing myself upgrading in the near future, they're perfect.What do you use? Looking at a couple options myself for open ear Bluetooth earbuds.
I had some grado on-ear headphones like that and they pushed my ears against the arms of my glasses, couldn't wear them for more than an hour without extreme discomfort. I now have a pair of audioquest over ear and can wear them for as long as I want without a problem.I'm a glasses wearer and so far the only headset I've ever found comfortable was this style:
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Any larger than this and I can't wear with my glasses because it hurts![]()
Definition of wasteful spending. This costs 450€, I have Sony ones for 80€, they are perfect.I have the XM5, but I'm still going give those to my son and upgrade to the XM6 later this month.
The point is for them to break, so you can buy new ones.Personally, for 450, I think that the all-plastic build is generally unacceptable, there should always be some metal at the stress points (hinges usually).
Definition of wasteful spending. This costs 450€, I have Sony ones for 80€, they are perfect.
The difference is I don't buy Steinway.Says the man who wanks over Steinway.
Anyway, I've had cheaper Sony headphones before. I had a pair that came with an Xpiera phone. They were okay, but not compared to the XM series.