Well this is a games console, it's not a movie box. Sony have always maintained its #4theplayers not #4themoviebuffs.
Sony likely saved about $15 by not including a UHD drive in PS4 Pro.
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Well this is a games console, it's not a movie box. Sony have always maintained its #4theplayers not #4themoviebuffs.
bryanee
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I think the PS5 will play PS4 games but not the other way around.
fallingdove
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100 for GPU/Wifi/HDD
Love your avatar!! Haven't listen to FTM for a long time.
Pretty much, I'll be saving for Scorpio.
Big Papa Husker
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People who care about image quality and HD audio codecs. Netflix/Streaming 4K is nowhere near UHD Blu-ray 4K.
Hockeymac18
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Sure, it'll do very well - but the base model will make up the vast majority of sales I imagine (i.e. the real "sales monster").
Trojita
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outunderthestars
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Which, again, Sony has measured and decided that there aren't enough of those people to matter in 2017. People stream movies and more often just use the sound on their tv. A much smaller number will use a cheap sound bar, and a tiny number will use a surround sound system.
It is becoming an increasingly niche market as streaming is "good enough" for most people. You guys can get upset, but the market simply isn't there for physical movies in the next 3-5 years. Currently sales of physical movie media is dropping at 13% per year. It is a dying market. Why should Sony invest in a market that is shrinking at an alarming rate?
I see what you did there.
Huge Succeeded
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the one thing that might have convinced me to buy a PS4 Pro.
guess this'll be a no-sony gen for me *shrug*
guess this'll be a no-sony gen for me *shrug*
Zvonimir Boban
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What kind of dumbass streams Sir David Attenborough presenting Planet Earth II when they could get the full image quality on a UHD disc?
The salt was strong with me, but after a bit of thought, i'm going back to buying PS4pro.
No one really cares about the UHD drive, this seems like an artificial outrage. Sony did everything they could to get the price to $399, which is absolutely fantastic. Who thinks that 2TB XBS is the same value as 1TB PS4PRO?
They cost the same.
No one really cares about the UHD drive, this seems like an artificial outrage. Sony did everything they could to get the price to $399, which is absolutely fantastic. Who thinks that 2TB XBS is the same value as 1TB PS4PRO?
They cost the same.
I think of that every time I load up EA Access on my PS4
...oh wait
Why do people try to empathize with corporations, they never have any interest outside of their profits. It should just be a matter of liking with they offer.
Surely you mean only for PS4 which was to counteract Xbox One's TV focus?
When most people don't care about 4K (If they even know what it is to begin with) and a vanilla PS4 going for $300, I can easily see it selling slowly. Highly doubt it's the must-have at Christmas.
I'm not joking here but the only Blu-ray disc I own is Casino Royale and I got that free with my PS3. I've never even took it out it's wrapping.
Equanimity
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I guess a lot of you buy UHD blurays?
Not just 4k though.
Oddvintagechap
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oh my god you literally have no idea what you're talking about
Who the heck was buying UHD blu-rays anyway? Everybody streams now. I'm sure Sony has done the heat-mapping on who's using UDH blu-rays vs. 4k streaming and it clearly isn't there yet. The problem is that other services like netflix are the ones with the 4k customers and encouraging those users to go back to discs makes no sense.
So why does the 1TB Xbox One S cost $50 more than the 500 GB version?
7DollarHagane
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It's a pretty bad decision among others for this upgrade. I really wonder how it'll do during holiday. A certain number of diehard fans will upgrade, but I feel like they're really hurting themselves not focusing on one lower priced unit.
At this point it feels like the slim ps4 is only $300 because it would make the PS4 Pro look bad at a lower price.
Will people even be able to stream 4K content smoothly? Depending on network congestion sometimes I have buffering on 1080p youtube content..
At this point it feels like the slim ps4 is only $300 because it would make the PS4 Pro look bad at a lower price.
Will people even be able to stream 4K content smoothly? Depending on network congestion sometimes I have buffering on 1080p youtube content..
It's hilarious how, after generations of PlayStations always touting multimedia features, suddenly it's all about the games.
It's a given anyone suggesting streaming as No Duh alternative doesn't know shit about shit tbh
Well, what else? HDR? (LOL) All the PS4 games releasing that'll play just fine on a regular PS4?
I guess so. Apparently, they were storing them on their shelves just waiting for the PS4 Pro so they could play them...
Not for games which are often 50 GB+ they're not.
Nope but I plan to when I get a player, which is about $250-400 and not something I want to buy on its own.
I doubt anyone would be very disappointed with this if they already had a UHD/HDR player.
Vanillalite
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Everyone has the apps already on their TV for 4K. At least UHD BR would be something they don't already have.
HDR is being patched into the regular PS4. So basically it's $400 for temporal 4K for gaming.
I said assuming the price is the same. And used likely in the title. Give me a break.
If you don't care about it, fine. But plenty of people are interested in a rough analysis at how much Sony saved by making this surprising decision.
PeregrinSe7en
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oh boy i walk into this thread and the concern trolling is off the charts
people who never had the intent on buying the pro are all of a sudden claiming " I don't want it anymore, saving my money for scorpio". Your not fooling anyone kiddo.
i will say that i'm not buying one myself, but not for that asinine reasoning.
people who never had the intent on buying the pro are all of a sudden claiming " I don't want it anymore, saving my money for scorpio". Your not fooling anyone kiddo.
i will say that i'm not buying one myself, but not for that asinine reasoning.
Got the Shakes
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Presumably for that to actually happen you're assuming that UHD Blu-Ray support is going to propel the Xbox One S to sell something like 2 million units per month more than the PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro combined for like the next year. Or everyone is going to hold off on buying a PS4 because Scorpio is coming out sometime next fall at an unknown price point? Going to say that is a highly unlikely scenario.
But that's always been how they presented the PS4.
Dreams-Visions
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I'm sorry, but are you really pushing better cooling as a selling point? lol, fuckouttahere. Yea, it's got a better gpu and more cpu. Functionally for owners, that's all it is. It'll make some games look better on tv's that can appreciate it. It would have only made sense for it to go the next step and support movies at the same resolution. If Microsoft can do it, so can Sony.
You can bet your ass that the next revision of the "Pro" will actually befitting the name and have this feature. This is an embarrassing miss. Not everything needs a goddamn defense force.
$400 for a box without 4K UHD playback is far from asinine. again, not every thing and decision needs a fucking defense force. It's okay for this to suck. We're consumers; not Sony employees.
outunderthestars
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You don't have to wait. MS is having to aggressively bundle the S now, as it appears that UHD playback ins't enough to generate sustained demand for the system.
GhostWriter24
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Alright, relax.
Excellent.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Firmware update 5.0 will activate it. Believe.
eyeball_kid
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Yup. On one hand, Sony positioned the PS4 as purely for games, in contrast to the PS3's media center concept. On the other hand, Sony has 4k TVs to sell and you need 4k content to do that, so either they abandon their gamer-focused concept and put in UHD, or they stick to their guns and hope 4k-ish games and Netflix will be enough.
And if you want to get cynical, Sony positioning the PS4 as games-focused was never really about games, but was marketing spin to cover the fact that they were trying to meet a specific price point.
Plinko
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Sorry--there are legitimate reasons why people may not want this. Not everything that goes against your favorite brand is "concern trolling."
7DollarHagane
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You can't judge people's opinions, dude.
UHD might not be a major selling point but if someone wasn't really sure about one or the other it's a difference. The XB1 S at $100 cheaper with that extra feature isn't a good look for sony.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Touting? Was PS4 was touted as a multimedia device or a gaming device with multimedia capabilities? Because that's not what I remember.
Im extremely disappointed in lack of UHD but in all honesty, I am willing to bet the majority of consumers today don't even own a 4k TV considering they are still going for $1000+.
Most people cant even stream Youtube, Netflix, etc at 4K so I can see that as being a key factor in determining whether to include a UHD drive.
Most people cant even stream Youtube, Netflix, etc at 4K so I can see that as being a key factor in determining whether to include a UHD drive.