Sony Playstation: First Party Studios & their Current Projects

Does Sony have any first party games that have cannibalized sales of third party games? I would like some examples if anyone is happy to entertain the question.
 
salromano said:
I think it'll be at E3, but rather as revealed beforehand / playable on the show floor than at the press conference. Listings for the game popped up at a few Spanish retailers in the past few weeks.
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Oh, I hope so. I get hyped with every Housemarque game, but it feels like Matterfall's reveal was kind of pointless as they gave us a CGI trailer and absolutely nothing since then.
 
RSchmitz said:
I think targeting only Marvel was poor from me. I meant licensed stuff too as James Bond was also mentioned. I think it feels like a lot to me because they´re closer to studios I liked.
But there´s a lot more licensing stuff happening isn´t there?
There´s Avatar from Ubisoft, there´s a rumour about a big Harry Potter game.
Weirdly Star Wars feels fine to me.
Maybe it will feel more natural to in some years.


Thanks.
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WB already owns the rights to Harry Potter, so if that happens it won't be considered a licensed game (same as their LOTR/M-E games).

There's less licensed games on consoles than ever before, so I can't really see your point here. Activision was the last major publisher still releasing low budget licensed games and they shut that division down last year. Nowadays it's basically just sports games, Star Wars, Marvel, Bandai Namco anime games and the very occasional one-offs (like Star Trek: Bridge Crew and the rumoured Avatar game).

Welcome to GAF btw.
 
RSchmitz said:
I think a Naughty Dog Bond game would be terrible, I like their ips and also want them to keep creating their own. And while I think Spider-Man looks great I am also not a fan of how many AAA Marvel games are coming. Original ideas will have an even harder time if publishers can just sign Marvel instead.

My first post here, wanted to post in this thread since I´ve been lurking for a long time.
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Welcome man!

OT: I agree...don't care for Bond at all
 
Blackleg-sanji1 said:
The reception in that beta thread has really changed! Good on pd
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night and day. And the folks on GT Planet are really liking the changes as well.

RSchmitz said:
I wanted a career mode so bad.
I fear GTS will be the Street Fighter V of Gran Turismo.
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Nah, it's a much bigger brand and there is a career mode, it just focuses it's effort on you improving your actual driving to race online. I believe online there will be cups/tournaments to win as well, though it's not clear yet just how you will earn more cars and credit.

Hold out on this though, big delay, and I think they really are listening to fans on this iteration. I'm sure there will be some races designed for newbies like us.
 
ArkhamFantasy said:
Look at the front page threads and look at the difference between Shaun Laydens PR and Jim Ryans PR. Just needed to point that out because DAMN.
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Negativity attracts more ppl it's quite funny. For instance the psvr sales thread is full of ppl ready to pounce yet no one wants to comment when Manchester studio were opened up or a new vr studio head was hired 🤷🏽*♂️
 
What Jim Ryan said is bad, indefensible and deserves to be called out, for all the reasons that can be cited. Value of historical games, disregard of a niche audience, ignorance of successful BC-initiatives, value-adding, etc.

But when you step back from the terrible thing that Jim said and look at the broader company as a whole, you may end up forgetting that this exec who shat all over BC is also an exec for the same company that:

- has historically supported digital BC in the past via PS1/2 Classics
- has Gaikai/PSNow, a service that is about enabling legacy games via streaming
- has a dedicated team that works on PS2-on-PS4 games
- said team is also remastering old PS1 games like LocoRoco
- first-party is regularly remastering old PS3 games

Now, I cite all of the above, but it's clear that they're lacking vs competitors like Xbox in terms of coverage, speed, scope and extensiveness of their BC initiative. But at the same time, everything I list above stands in stark constrast with the things Jim said.

So where's the middle ground?

When you look at all the points above, IMO it's pretty obvious what the underlying message behind what Jim Ryan said is that "Sony wants to resell older games on the PS4 instead of making it fully BC; with some exception."

It's a business decision they made to an extent, and Jim is just defending an anti-consumer business deal. Which is similar to what he did with EA Access and his SPIN of why it's not on PS4.

I'm not all that excited or interested to discuss the Jim Ryan matter because until we hear what press or other outlets will follow up on his statement, then there'll be more interesting things to say. As it is, meh.
 
DriftingSpirit said:
Always!
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→ http://gematsu.com/2017/06/japanese...-alchemist-braceir-koei-tecmo-save-earth-sony

The latest Japanese trademarks are in, and they include the potential title of the next Atelier game, a new Sony Interactive Entertainment title, and more.

...

Sony Interactive Entertainment

"Save the Earth"
"MatterFall" (announced in 2015, listings were recently added to various Spanish retailers, a re-reveal is likely soon)

...
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Nightengale said:
What Jim Ryan said is bad, indefensible and deserves to be called out, for all the reasons that can be cited. Value of historical games, disregard of a niche audience, ignorance of successful BC-initiatives, value-adding, etc.

But when you step back from the terrible thing that Jim said and look at the broader company as a whole, you may end up forgetting that this exec who shat all over BC is also an exec for the same company that:

- has historically supported digital BC in the past via PS1/2 Classics
- has Gaikai/PSNow, a service that is about enabling legacy games via streaming
- has a dedicated team that works on PS2-on-PS4 games
- said team is also remastering old PS1 games like LocoRoco
- first-party is regularly remastering old PS3 games

Now, I cite all of the above, but it's clear that they're lacking vs competitors like Xbox in terms of coverage, speed, scope and extensiveness of their BC initiative. But at the same time, everything I list above stands in stark constrast with the things Jim said.

So where's the middle ground?

When you look at all the points above, IMO it's pretty obvious what the underlying message behind what Jim Ryan said is that "Sony wants to resell older games on the PS4 instead of making it fully BC; with some exception."

It's a business decision they made to an extent, and Jim is just defending an anti-consumer business deal. Which is similar to what he did with EA Access and his SPIN of why it's not on PS4.

I'm not all that excited or interested to discuss the Jim Ryan matter because until we hear what press or other outlets will follow up on his statement, then there'll be more interesting things to say. As it is, meh.
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Agreed. It's bad PR.
 
V! No Heroes Allowed! R finally getting a release date. Coming this fall to Japan. This is a PSVR first party game by Japan Studio.

Per usual, thanks Gematsu
 
Calling it now; The Sentinel is Sucker Punch's game where Robocop meets Blade Runner. You play a cyborg cop looking after the city that's been overrun by rogue AI, androids & other cyborgs. Similar to Infamous you get superhero-like upgrades although here they're slightly more grounded. (In all seriousness, while I'd like this it may be too similar to what Detroit is trying from a story perspective. It is great to not really have a solid idea what their new game is).

Save the Earth is obviously a sequel to The Last Guy :p
 
Nightengale said:
What Jim Ryan said is bad, indefensible and deserves to be called out, for all the reasons that can be cited. Value of historical games, disregard of a niche audience, ignorance of successful BC-initiatives, value-adding, etc.

But when you step back from the terrible thing that Jim said and look at the broader company as a whole, you may end up forgetting that this exec who shat all over BC is also an exec for the same company that:

- has historically supported digital BC in the past via PS1/2 Classics
- has Gaikai/PSNow, a service that is about enabling legacy games via streaming
- has a dedicated team that works on PS2-on-PS4 games
- said team is also remastering old PS1 games like LocoRoco
- first-party is regularly remastering old PS3 games

Now, I cite all of the above, but it's clear that they're lacking vs competitors like Xbox in terms of coverage, speed, scope and extensiveness of their BC initiative. But at the same time, everything I list above stands in stark constrast with the things Jim said.

So where's the middle ground?

When you look at all the points above, IMO it's pretty obvious what the underlying message behind what Jim Ryan said is that "Sony wants to resell older games on the PS4 instead of making it fully BC; with some exception."

It's a business decision they made to an extent, and Jim is just defending an anti-consumer business deal. Which is similar to what he did with EA Access and his SPIN of why it's not on PS4.

I'm not all that excited or interested to discuss the Jim Ryan matter because until we hear what press or other outlets will follow up on his statement, then there'll be more interesting things to say. As it is, meh.
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nah man..I disagree completely with that line of thinking. Honestly, sometimes I think on GAF and enthusiast forums, there is a universal superiority complex. Just because a lot of people here are screaming up and arms against his comments don't mean majority of PS4 owners feel that way. Specifically his reference to GT. A game known for its graphics and realism, many people would never go back to a GT game.

Obviously there is some value in b/c and older games, but he's speaking how a majority use their consoles, hardly never touching anything older than last gen, if that. And in that context the statement was pretty normal. We get bent out of shape with everything some exec says when we would use every day language just the same if more so insulting to some.

Yeah, GAF has a right to call something out. I also have a right to verbally abuse my pets and make them vicious hounds for no apparent reason. Doesn't mean it's morally right. And I'm tired of these echo chamber lines of reasoning being backed up as solid criticism. Yes, some gamers love b/c, Yes some gamers feel exactly the way his comments described as well. There is no right way to dissect his comments, it comes down to your personal preference.

And frankly on places like Neogaf it is extremely biased and one sided to the hardcore gamer side of many arguments
 
Omnistalgic said:
nah man..I disagree completely with that line of thinking. Honestly, sometimes I think on GAF and enthusiast forums, there is a universal superiority complex. Just because a lot of people here are screaming up and arms against his comments don't mean majority of PS4 owners feel that way. Specifically his reference to GT. A game known for its graphics and realism, many people would never go back to a GT game.

Obviously there is some value in b/c and older games, but he's speaking how a majority use their consoles, hardly never touching anything older than last gen, if that. And in that context the statement was pretty normal. We get bent out of shape with everything some exec says when we would use every day language just the same if more so insulting to some.

Yeah, GAF has a right to call something out. I also have a right to verbally abuse my pets and make them vicious hounds for no apparent reason. Doesn't mean it's morally right. And I'm tired of these echo chamber lines of reasoning being backed up as solid criticism. Yes, some gamers love b/c, Yes some gamers feel exactly the way his comments described as well. There is no right way to dissect his comments, it comes down to your personal preference.

And frankly on places like Neogaf it is extremely biased and one sided to the hardcore gamer side of many arguments
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Very well said.
 
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