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Sony pushing towards PC gaming space, wants to become "Nike of gaming gear" starting with gaming monitors and headphones
Topher
Identifies as young
Do their TVs even have VRR yet?
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
True actually, I did mean headset. Still, they can clearly make very quality products if and when they want to. Not bothered myself, Arctis Pros work just fine.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yes, they do now.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Do you mean headphones that cost single-to-double-digit dollars to make and sell for hundreds?
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Yea, as expected it's overpriced. Sony just can't help themselves. $900 for a monitor with those specs would be great - were it a 32" monitor. $900 for a 27" monitor is insulting. A comparable Asus, for example, with slightly better specs and more ports is only $650.
Need proper stats please. Like genuine company operating margins.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
An ASUS with HDMI 2.1, Full array local dimming, 4K and 144hz?
$900 isn't that much. It's comparable to the Eve Spectrum 4K. How they managed to set the price for it here in Denmark ($1414) is really shitty tho'.
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Yea, they're $650 on Amazon US right now.
Sorry to hear about those Danish prices - I wonder why it's so much higher where you're at?
8BiTw0LF
Banned
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Taxes. I got the Eve Spectrum 4K for $750 (early bird) but they don't add taxes when exporting from China.
Topher
Identifies as young
Not really. Most gaming headsets under $300 do not have noise-cancellation. Sony's $299 headset does have NC.
As far as the monitor is concerned, here is it's competition:
Amazon.com: Acer Predator XB272 bmiprz 27" Full HD (1920x1080) NVIDIA G-SYNC TN Monitor, (Display Port & HDMI Port, 240Hz) : Electronics
Shop Amazon for Acer Predator XB272 bmiprz 27" Full HD (1920x1080) NVIDIA G-SYNC TN Monitor, (Display Port & HDMI Port, 240Hz) and find millions of items, delivered faster than ever.
www.amazon.com
I mean.....I agree with you and I wouldn't pay that for a 1080p monitor either, but this is targeting esports types.
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Torrent of Pork
Banned
So child slave labor to produce cheap shit marked up to absurd prices, and marketed towards people with questionable financial self-control?
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. More like you're looking to be the Faded Glory of gaming gear
Thirty7ven
Banned
As long as they keep focused on quality and preserving identity, then they will be unstoppable.
Haters gonna hate, but haters are cheap and they give value to the brand without even knowing because they are se essentially free advertisement dumb as they are.
Haters gonna hate, but haters are cheap and they give value to the brand without even knowing because they are se essentially free advertisement dumb as they are.
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Rykan
Member
1: It was a joke.
2. Are you referring to SOE? SOE was sold off, not closed.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
There is no company selling headphones whose reported operating margins are solely restricted to the sales of headphones. Every company selling headphones sells way more than just headphones. So the parameter you're asking for would not even prove what you think it does.
Nevertheless, I can tell you from first-hand experience working in this very field that headphone manufacturing costs are but a fraction of their retail price. It's true for many peripheral devices... which is why peripherals for console manufacturers are the obvious pack-ins for console bundles and why peripherals, in addition to game sales, are where all of the margins have traditionally been in the console business.
JLB
Banned
Some of Sonys hardware is outstanding and im a very extended user of their gadgets. Lately I got a brand new Sony 1000X Series WH-1000XM4 and they have no real competitors in the space of long duration wireless headsets (only BIG CON with them is that mic only works on wireless!). Considering how good are bravias I'd def take a look at a sony monitor.
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
Nike? I had couple shoes that could not survive two month of regular use when the 10-20€ shit lasted me more than a year. Reebok is better.
Hari Seldon
Member
I just want an OLED monitor. I could give a shit if it is not esport ready, in fact the less gamer branding the better. I feel like an OLED monitor would sell like hotcakes since there is none.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You could give a shit? It’s a shit I will give you then!
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crackajack
Member
Sounds like hoping for PSVR2 to support PC is not nonsensical. Hopefully cooperating with Steam and Meta and whatever whoever is needed to make a headset equal to a tv-set and not an unnecessary walled garden.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Until they figure out burn in as tempting as an OLED monitor would be I wouldn't switch because my PC task bars are on all the time and I would ruin an OLED monitor in no time
Plus, and this is just my opinion, OLEDs still do not get bright enough for me and that goes back to the first problem
Until that tech gets better for my gaming I am sticking with my LGs and my main PC gaming display is the Acer Predator X35
It costs $100 but the earcups will melt and probably break in the middle or near the earcups just like all the other overpriced PS branded garbage Sony sells.
You would be better off just buying the XM4 and using the headphone jack.
JimmyRustler
Member
Burn in hasn't really been a problem with OLED for a long time. The only reason why you do not see OLED monitors is because LG doesn't make such small panels.
MadchesterManc
Member
Wonder if they'll do a re-release of the PlayStation 3D TV
derrickchase
Member
The industry's obsession with esports is so weird. I get that the holy grail for corporations is to be able to sell t-shirts and energy drinks where the profit margin is sky high, but the reality is that no one watches esports and the whole thing is antithetical to what gaming is about. Gaming is an INTERACTIVE medium. You're not supposed to watch it passively. Games are intentionally designed to be accessible to a lot of people as opposed to physical sports where you actually have to have relatively rare physical attributes to excel at a high level. Blizzard's obsession with catering to esports weirdos basically killed World of Warcraft. Street Fighter hasn't been interesting in decades due to catering to that nonsense.
derrickchase
Member
Burn in is actually a massive indirect problem because the mitigation strategies they're forced to use make their displays unusable as desktop PC monitors. Constant pixel shifting would drive me insane. ABL is incredibly irritating and would make any art related productivity work unrealistic. Oh yeah, I want to post on NeoGAF on a monitor that's constantly changing the brightness of its gray background. Wouldn't drive me mad at all.
If you have a PC connected to a normal computer monitor and an LG OLED as a secondary used just for gaming, it's fine, but they just aren't desktop PC monitors. Even if you could somehow ignore all the horrible burn in mitigation problems, you still have the weird RWBG pixel structure that makes fonts look like junk.
There isn't going to be a true PC friendly self emissive display until we finally get something like MicroLED.
Honestly, I'm pretty irritated with the display manufacturing industry. They sell what I would call basically lab prototypes and pass them off as consumer products. Many of them are NOT ready for prime time.
ZywyPL
Banned
Good luck. The reason there's no single company that does all sorts of PC peripherals at the highers level is because it's way too much to swallow, you can either specialize and be great at few things, or mediocre at everything, and who better than Sony themselves who went through huge restructuring years go and closed/sold all their weakest divisions to focus on the strongest ones should know a thing or two about it... Plus, pushing the PS5's white-blue theme is a no-go for most PC gamers out there, black paint with RGB LEDs is the way to go if you want to satisfy the majority of the market.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
The future of gaming hardware
AllBizness
Banned
Give me a thousand dollar PS5 Pro that's 50tf Sony, the only high end gaming hardware I'm buying is Pro consoles.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sony (the not-PlayStation part) makes very good regular headphones, and these are not PlayStation headsets, so I don't see why they would necessarily be garbage.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
I already gave you the answer. Cheap build quality and shitty mic quality.
Just because you make good headphones doesn't mean you make good gaming headsets.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Alright, that's a shame then, I thought maybe these would be the headset versions of their great wireless headphones.
Solarstrike
Member
yurinka
Member
What this exec says makes sense.
I know they want to differientiate this brand to make clear it's for PC players and not for PS, but I'd have used the PS brand. Something like PlayStation inZone, PlayStation eSports, PlayStation proGaming, PlayStation pcGaming or stuff like that.
I know they want to differientiate this brand to make clear it's for PC players and not for PS, but I'd have used the PS brand. Something like PlayStation inZone, PlayStation eSports, PlayStation proGaming, PlayStation pcGaming or stuff like that.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I would take a 20TF model for $1000 and I want the Pro controller
