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[ZehDon]

Well, yeah. I always select performance mode when it's available. No exceptions.

Now, I'm not saying that makes me a better person than those who don't, but I'm pretty confident everyone who doesn't is going to Hell when they die.

 

[Romulus]

Duh, 30fps feels like crap to play the majority of the time.

I've almost gotten to the point that 60fps looks barely passable after getting used to 144+ fps

 

[Loomy]

If this is the kind of learning they're taking in to PS6, we're in for a good time. Just need to see what this new RT tech can do.

 

[Elitro]

I tried fidelity in miles morales and immediately changed back.

 

[MostlyPeaceful]

I really hope Rockstar doesn't sacrifice ambition with GTA6, a game that's supposed to last 15 years, just to appease the people who will play it once at 60fps and never think about it again.

Please Rockstar, make it a 30fps game on consoles and we'll worry about 60fps once the PC/PS6 versions comes along.

 

[ReBurn]

Sony reveals what we already knew.

 

[Gamer79]

I think performance rt is a great balance.

 

[Topher]

Well, yeah. I always select performance mode when it's available. No exceptions.

Now, I'm not saying that makes me a better person than those who don't, but I'm pretty confident everyone who doesn't is going to Hell when they die.

 

[The_Observer]

This is weird to me because how smooth the picture is in motion is a HUGE part of graphics to me. If it hurts to look at, like Demon's Souls Remaster on my OLED(at 30fps), it's part of the fidelity to my eyes.

I understand that, but for some reason you and a lot of others don't understand that some people don't care about it as long as it's not a choppy mess. And 30 fps is perfectly okay in this sense for a lot of people.

 

[Minsc]

This is weird to me because how smooth the picture is in motion is a HUGE part of graphics to me. If it hurts to look at, like Demon's Souls Remaster on my OLED(at 30fps), it's part of the fidelity to my eyes.

From what I gathered after FFXVI, the answer is to enable the smooth image settings on the TV which essentially make 30fps have that 60fps feel, by inserting frames to smooth the choppy motion. It also works on regular movies/TV and makes everything look smoother, although it looks artificial to me. If you have that setting enabled, I think it's easier to deal with the low framerates.

 

[Preseznik]

I haven't stomached playing a game at 30 since the PS3 gen.
Excluding the Switch, I guess, but that can't be helped at the moment.
And I've not touched a first person shooter game at 60 since MW19, when I finally switched to 120.

This stat is the most unsurprising thing about the PS5 Pro reveal.

 

[BigLee74]

It's amazing how much visual fidelity I am willing to sacrifice for 60fps. I am prepared for it to look like pixely shit!

 

[twilo99]

 

[Preseznik]

From what I gathered after FFXVI, the answer is to enable the smooth image settings on the TV which essentially make 30fps have that 60fps feel, by inserting frames to smooth the choppy motion. It also works on regular movies/TV and makes everything look smoother, although it looks artificial to me. If you have that setting enabled, I think it's easier to deal with the low framerates.

That causes massive input lag and is actually far worse than enduring the 30 fps choppiness, though neither are remotely close to acceptable, of course.

The only solution to playing 30 fps games is to just not do it on OLED.
I have an old LCD for this purpose, though it's used only to play X360/PS3 exclusive games.

 

[Minsc]

That causes massive input lag and is actually far worse than enduring the 30 fps choppiness, though neither are remotely close to acceptable, of course.

The only solution to playing 30 fps games is to just not do it on OLED.
I have an old LCD for this purpose, though it's used only to play X360/PS3 exclusive games.

LCDs like the PS Portal have horrible motion clarity that blends motion across frames though, but that's probably some of the reason why 30fps can appear to look less choppy on them.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Nonsense, on proper technology like plasma (or CRT), 60fps is perfect.

Not gaming fault LCD and OLED suck.

120 is even better

 

[TGO]

I tried fidelity in miles morales and immediately changed back.

Funny I did the opposite with the SM games, although Lies of P I go performance

 

[Bitstream]

With perfect frame pacing 30 FPS can look pretty good on an LCD or LED tv, but once you go OLED 30 is a choppy disaster.

 

[mayham2199]

So 75% of gamers are playing at 720p internal resolutions using severely paired down graphics and then they complain that graphics havent improved much.

Shouldve never offered them the choice.

I always go performance mode but honestly graphics have been amazing to me for a long time.

 

[sendit]

"Just play at 30 FPS, you'll get used to it again" crowd are in shambles. Imagine recommending people to play at this slide show like inducing frame rate option.

 

[sendit]

With perfect frame pacing 30 FPS can look pretty good on an LCD or LED tv, but once you go OLED 30 is a choppy disaster.

Don't kid yourself. 30 FPS is choppy regardless of what set you play on.

 

[Quantum253]

Most always use performance mode. The bigger question is, how does Sony know what mode it's being played in and what other data are they collecting

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

*cough cough*

Performance mode all the way, shame it can't do 60 fps in quality mode, oh well.

Playing in Performance because 60 fps >>> any other option 99% of the time but might check out the other modes to be fair, it looks beautiful as is on my OLED.

Got my 60 FPS, that's all I need

60 FPS mode confirmed, I wouldn't buy it otherwise.

- 60 FPS is very smooth, don't understand anyone playing at 30 fps when given the choice, movement is choppy as fuck in comparison and therefore makes the game *uglier*

Framerate is inconsistent for sure but it holds 60 FPS where it matters most: combat. As such I kept it in Performance Mode throughout, still less distracting than slow as molasses 30 FPS but to each their own.

60 FPS forever and always, thanks devs

Performance. Performance. Performance. No contest, forever and always. I clocked nearly 10 hours yesterday with barely a hitch, rock solid 60 FPS 99% of the time. I played FFXVI in Perf Mode too and while that game was wildly inconsistent it held it where it mattered most: combat. Rebirth holds it everywhere and that's a beautiful thing, game looks gorgeous on my OLED, I'll take the "softer" look to the visuals as a trade-off

Only thing I needed confirmation of was a mostly stable 60 FPS performance mode. Looking good, I was always cautiously optimistic about it, sounds like Bloober will actually prove everyone wrong and deliver the goods

Performance Mode is the only way to go as always. Nearing 25 hours, maintains 60 fps 90% of the time, every 15-20 minutes I'll pass by an area where the game will hitch for a couple of seconds then it's back to smooth sailing, looks beautiful on my OLED.

Yes indeed, can't wait for the Pro

 

[Toons]

For most genres and games, how well they play matters WAY more than how good they look.

This is where I am at.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I use fidelity in some games.

 

[existensmaximum]

Well, yeah. I always select performance mode when it's available. No exceptions.

Now, I'm not saying that makes me a better person than those who don't, but I'm pretty confident everyone who doesn't is going to Hell when they die.

I'd rather rule in hell than to serve in heaven

Anyway, options are great. I pretty much always choose quality mode. 30 fps looks and feels great to me and I hate 60 fps cutscenes. There are some rare exceptions though.

 

[//DEVIL//]

I mean... 30 fps needs to die, period. some games I can't even play at 60 fps. imagine playing COD at 60 fps lol.

nothing less than 120 frames.

single player games? sure 60 fps is fine.

 

[twilo99]

Preach

 

[midnightAI]

Because if there was no quality mode then mid gen upgrades/cross gen (next generation) would need a crap load of work put into them to improve the graphics, its much easier to improve framerates with more powerful hardware. If this was the case then why bother having options in PC games to lower or higher the graphics to get better framerates, why not just make the game low settings so everyone gets high frame rates?

(and also some people just prefer quality mode, for me it depends on the game, some are perfectly acceptable at 30fps, others not so much, but at least the option is there)

 

[Fess]

There are still people who think 30FPS is okay for video games... it blows my mind.

60FPS is still not great, but still much better.

120FPS is where you want to be.

Most people think it's okay when you really want to play a game if there is no alternative, because what else can you do?
People enjoyed even fast games like Spider-Man at 30fps not long ago. I heard that some enjoyed BOTW, TLOU2, TOTK as well.

 

[Elitro]

Funny I did the opposite with the SM games, although Lies of P I go performance

I had a hard time dealing with the motion blur or quick direction shifts in 30 fps

 

[rubik's dude]

20 FPS N64 Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask enjoyers rise up.

 

[Banjo64]

They have this data and still their studios are investing all of their money in to graphics over performance.

 

[Edgelord79]

30 fps lol…

Glad to see Sony has acknowledged what was already known. As someone else mentioned, hopefully they are planning the PS6 around this data.

Fidelity mode has become redundant in many games as the differences become more and more minuscule imo. I just don't see worthwhile differences even in cherry picked no motion screenshots.

 

[TGO]

I had a hard time dealing with the motion blur or quick direction shifts in 30 fps

I genuinely have a problem with how some games look at 60fps or higher.
some games it doesn't bother me because as far as I'm concerned it's looks right.
But others don't look natural to me, like the soap opera effect and I find it off putting.
But that list is small which Spider Man is on.

 

[Nankatsu]

More reason to make the Pro accessible to the players, not restrictive.