kyliethicc
Member
They’re PS4 ports/apps, but they’re PS1 PS2 PS3 games.
Like The Last of Us Remastered. It’s a PS3 game, just got ported.
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Sony seems to be creating needless confusion and annoyance with PS4 games on both PS Extra and PS Premium
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Like The Last of Us Remastered. It’s a PS3 game, just got ported.
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
Sure, but I'm getting confused when it's got a PS4 label at the store - and I'm obviously not alone.
ManaByte
Gold Member
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
The extra tier got 3 games I would like to play - premium is absolutely not worth it for me. Problem is when I can figure out a better solution than a multi-billion company, something is deeply wrong - cause I'm not that bright, but I know what works - fanservice.
get premium and stop woring about those things, its only $20 more then extra.
lughnasadh123
Member
Dead Cells being tied to Premium makes me think there's some buggy shit going on.
I'm generally pretty happy with this as a launch service, unless Sony is intentionally tying PS4 games to premium when it should be on Extra instead. Fuck that. Do they really think they have that much good will to piss away on another dumb decision?
I'm generally pretty happy with this as a launch service, unless Sony is intentionally tying PS4 games to premium when it should be on Extra instead. Fuck that. Do they really think they have that much good will to piss away on another dumb decision?
kyliethicc
Member
Well that‘s a you issue lol
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
I'm not quite sure about that. Labeling means something everywere else.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
To be honest.....Gamepass and PS+ are now direct competitors. At the moment one is clearly better than the other. But the gap has gotten smaller. GP isn't just about day one 1st party games.
Captain Toad
Banned
I dont think so, honestly. Sony knows Microsoft is putting all their eggs into GamePass, but they're not going to. They still believe people choose PlayStation for the library of games, not PS+. PS+ is still just a feature of PlayStation, not the selling point or focus.
Xbox, on the other hand, is putting the focus on GamePass above everything.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The bolded is 100% true. But it still doesn't mean both sub-services aren't competing. Like will we see 3rd party games launch on both services day one?
Captain Toad
Banned
They're competitive, but I don't think Sony has any intention to match GamePass in the near future. They know GP offers more than PS+, but are okay with that, because their plan is to make their games get/keep you in the ecosystem. Then, they'll try to get you to invest in PS+ as well.
MasterCornholio
Member
Is this because it’s buggy and it’s messing up the labels?
Hopefully Sony fixes this quickly like the last thing that happened.
Hopefully Sony fixes this quickly like the last thing that happened.
BusierDonkey
Member
The same way you're concerned in other threads about shit you'll never buy.
kyliethicc
Member
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
Friday The 13th only released on PS4. And remasters shouldn't be recognized as old games lolPremium is for old games. Pretty self explanatory
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I think that's what everyone expected.
kyliethicc
Member
Why? They’re old games
ManaByte
Gold Member
So should RE4 in March be considered a GameCube game?
Swift_Star
Banned
Stray will launch day one one ps+
bentanchorbolt
Banned
It's almost like this whole thing is a half-baked measure to try and make Sony look as though they had an answer to Game Pass.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Looks like for many games have isolated availability on the Extra and Premium tiers.
You'd think a game a on PS4 or PS5 would be available for both Extra and Premium subbers.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The game list wasnt released until today.
Anyone with converting sub plans before today (for regions launching today) could only go on the graphs.
How would anyone know that the PS4 and PS5 games on the Extra and Premium tiers would be different when communication by Sony the whole time never said these tiers would have differing PS4/PS5 games?
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Will it also release day one on gamepass?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I thought that game was a Remake and not a Remaster....
Katajx
Member
Okay, but to upgrade to Premium from essential there is only one option to me after paying for the yearly “Essential” tier.
get premium and stop woring about those things, its only $20 ( less then $2/month ) more then extra.
Pay $120 for 348 days to upgrade. Not “just” the difference. No option to try another tier for a month from here as of current.
Lupin25
Member
No one should say they arent competing.
But it’s clear what Sony values and subscriptions seem like a loss leader business model. A company wouldn’t want to go all in on a cheaper plan consumers can back out on at any given time.
PS+ was also already getting some day one 3rd party releases (Control Ultimate etc), but it should be more frequent now (Stray is July’s offering).
$70 purchased games (especially digital) is what they really want. There’s no cancellations/refunds (rarely) with bought items. I don’t see Sony putting all their chips in on PS+ tiers.
Edit: This also looks to be a bug of some sort misrepresenting tier-labels on PS3/PS4 ports. They’ll definitely need to fix this.
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Neofire
Member
This is why I buy the games I want to play. Zero confusion
kyliethicc
Member
No it’s a remake. A new PS5 game lol not a port
LegendOfKage
Member
For those suggesting that all you need to do is check the website, the website makes no distinction between the two tiers either. There's literally no way to tell outside of using your console to browse the selection, and there was no way to even tell that much before today. It really does seem poorly handled at best, and falsely advertised at worst.
rickybooby87
Member
Just stocked up on a years worth of premium, can't wait to see additional classics.
Gamerguy84
Member
On another note, and I'm not hijacking I juat don't want to make a thread but hopefully someone does. I would but cant keep up with it because I work too much.
I am very much enjoying the new PLUS/NOW. The work they've done with making the PS1 games look good is really cool.
I have gig internet and download a PS1 game in a few seconds lol.
Happy with the new additions though especially PS5 games I was on the fence about like Returnal and Demons Souls.
I am very much enjoying the new PLUS/NOW. The work they've done with making the PS1 games look good is really cool.
I have gig internet and download a PS1 game in a few seconds lol.
Happy with the new additions though especially PS5 games I was on the fence about like Returnal and Demons Souls.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's besides the point.
PS4 versions of those games are native PS4 apps. They should be treated as PS4 games.
Chronicle
Member
The do have an answer. This is it. It's not all that confusing folks. No need for all the tears.
Do you own ps plus?
eastcoastkody
Member
it goes beyond that. They list games twice for each version PS4/PS5. Also u can't pick what version of a game trial to download. Horizon Forbidden Dawn is a crossgen title. Can u pick to dl the ps4 version?? Not that i can see
Agent X
Member
The point is that the user shouldn't have to look at a Web site to figure this stuff out. There should be a much clearer categorization.
On the old PS Now, all of the games were in a single pool. It didn't matter which console the game was originally released for, or which console version you were getting now.
Most people assumed that the original pool of PS Now games (not counting the newly added PS1 and PSP games) would carry over to PS Plus Extra and PS Plus Premium like this:
- Extra: PS2, PS4, & PS5 games for download.
- Premium: PS2, PS4, & PS5 for either download or streaming, also PS3 games for streaming.
- PS2 games that were released on PS4 (e.g. Dark Cloud, FantaVision, Kinetica,, Primal)
- Games that originated on PS3, which were later ported natively (or you can call them "remastered") to PS4 (e.g. God of War III, The Last of Us)
- Games that originated on other Sony platforms, which were later ported (or "remastered") on PS4 (e.g. Gravity Rush, Shadow of the Colossus, Wipeout Omega Collection)
These are all PS4 versions of the games, but their console of origin is causing Sony to shift them to another category. This seems like a cheap way to boost the "Classics" category.
Personally, I'd rather they just keep everything the way it was. They could probably get away with shifting over the PS2 games, if only because they're virtually unchanged from the original, and users might mentally group them with the PS1 and PSP games anyway. However, I feel that all the other "remastered" games should have remained as PS4 games, since they aren't truly the "classic" versions from the older systems.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
Tears? Man get out of here lmao.
The only thing needlessly annoying and confusing is that OP. I hopped in on the Premium tier and guess what?
Everything the light touches is rented and can be taken from you at any given moment.
This would be true if you were talking about buying (physical copies) everything you play.
But yeah, I get the point you're trying to make.
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Lokaum D+
Member
Well, just like gamepass and thats fine.
Just rented, Returnal, RDR2, GotG, Máfia DE, Hollow Knight and others, just saved a lot of $$
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