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Sony takes bite out of iPod in Japan
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Someone really hates Sony?The Faceless Master said:
The Faceless Master
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no, i meant ... probably the only company ... with worse mp3 players ... than apple ... is sony ...
As an owner of a busted iPod (the second in a year), I say bring it on. It's about time Sony got its act together with this digital audio business; I wonder if Sony can bring its full court efforts to the United States before it's too late, after their early devices that couldn't even play MP3 formatted files. (!!!)
(Oh wait, I own a Mac. I'm locked in.)
(Oh wait, I own a Mac. I'm locked in.)
kitchenmotors
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nitewulf said:
Really? Have you used a shuffle? I happen to have a regular iPod, a mini and a shuffle. The shuffle I take with me on my runs and I also use it to transfer files back and forth from home to work. I'd say the shuffle suits my needs quite well, much better than any flash memory player could. For what it is, it's hardly crappy.
monkeymagic
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* > SonicStage
Otherwise the Sony devices would be perfect from a build and sound quality perspective.
Otherwise the Sony devices would be perfect from a build and sound quality perspective.
FortNinety
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nitewulf said:
Yeah, I figured that the shuffle would be a total bomg that no one in their right mind would waste money on. Boy was I wrong...
Luscious LeftFoot
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Sony's flash players seem nice. Nice design, 50 battery life, fm tuner, a screen. Sonic Stage is godawful though, and they pretty much force you to use it.
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nitewulf said:
Dude, you should have known better. Look.
kitchenmotors said:
You will never win. I've learned to let it go. Yes, on the whole, iPods gets outperformed by every other competitor, but you can't tell them that.
Fresh Prince
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Every 6 months.
Anyway probably won't buy an Apple next time when I'm considering a mp3 player.
Also this thread title should of had Apple instead of iPod then it would of been more of the teh funny.
Anyway probably won't buy an Apple next time when I'm considering a mp3 player.
Also this thread title should of had Apple instead of iPod then it would of been more of the teh funny.
Ignatz Mouse
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Agent Icebeezy said:
60GB iPod: Only pocket-sized 60GB player. Best price/meg of any pocket-sized player.
How's that being outperformed?
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Ignatz Mouse said:
Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra 60GB MP3 Player
$264.00
Weight - 7.9oz
Apple iPod Photo 60GB 2nd Gen. MP3 Player
$350.00
Weight - 6.1oz
teruterubozu
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Click the banner below and get a free ipod. They are watching.
The Faceless Master
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IAWTPnitewulf said:
i love my H10
This is good news. I am a huge fan of the iPod and iTunes, and Apple for that matter, but a serious contender to challenge them, like Sony, is probably the only way we will see drastic changes in the digital audio market (as in pricing, proprietary compatibility/DRM, etc.). And Sony and Apple are the two best hardware companies in the world, imo (as far as design, that is, I'm not saying anything about reliability or price), so seeing them constantly trying to one up eachother would surely produce some of very, very sleek hardware (I mean, shit, look at Sony's answer to the iPod Shuffle).
I would love to see Sony really gain back their clout in the audio player arena, or really, in all of their divisons. It would suck to see Sony go under.
I would love to see Sony really gain back their clout in the audio player arena, or really, in all of their divisons. It would suck to see Sony go under.
This has nothing to do with whether Sony's music devices are better or worse than the competition.
The Japanese public with buy a Japanese made product over a western product (even if the western one is 10x better) 9/10 times. Living in Japan I see everyone using Sony music devices (I've never actually seen an ipod in public), using Sony monitors, using Sony computers, using Sony TVs, driving Japanese cars. It's pretty BS and at times when I'm looking to buy something and the stores only stock Japanese-made products and maybe one shitty western model at jacked up prices in the back it can be a bit annoying. I hear it's better in some parts of the country, but where I'm at you don't buy anything Western unless you want to be known as the weirdo by your neighbors.
Note that buying or owning a dryer makes you wierd too here. @_@
The Japanese public with buy a Japanese made product over a western product (even if the western one is 10x better) 9/10 times. Living in Japan I see everyone using Sony music devices (I've never actually seen an ipod in public), using Sony monitors, using Sony computers, using Sony TVs, driving Japanese cars. It's pretty BS and at times when I'm looking to buy something and the stores only stock Japanese-made products and maybe one shitty western model at jacked up prices in the back it can be a bit annoying. I hear it's better in some parts of the country, but where I'm at you don't buy anything Western unless you want to be known as the weirdo by your neighbors.
Note that buying or owning a dryer makes you wierd too here. @_@
FortNinety said:
I never thought that...in spite of the Shuffle being an ass-backwards piece of shit, being the most affordable iPod on the market meant it's success was assured.
Macam said:
You're asking this on an internet forum?
And I really don't see how this is news. As Bebop said, Japanese product always outsells non-Japanese stuff in Japan. If and when Sony makes a dent in the western market, feel free to blow the trumpets. As it currently stands, I doubt Jobs is rocking back and fourth in front of his iMac.
chinch said:
Heh, exactly...
warabi-mochi
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Bebpo said:
Where are you at exactly? I'm pretty much always around Chiba/Tokyo/Ginza myself, and I see more iPods than anything else these days. Mostly minis for that matter. When I first came to Japan three years ago all I ever saw was minidisc players. Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, didn't matter. It's changed quite dramatically really.
For the most part, I've noticed it's not so much a "will only buy Japanese products" thing, as it is a "buy the most popular product" thing. Everything here gets ranked in some way or another, and everyone pretty much buys the things at the top of the list. It's like watching people shopping for digital cameras. They almost invariably look at/ask about only the cameras that are ranked first, second and third in sales. The other cameras may as well not even exist. The same seems to apply to pretty much everything else too, like Louis Vuitton bags for example.
As for the clothes dryer thing, my electricity bill is quite a bit lower here with no dryer. This includes an air conditioner that I know I run too much here, whereas I never had one in Canada. My clothes also seem to last a lot longer without running them through a dryer as well. So I can't really say I miss it any. I do miss my dishwasher and gas oven/range though.
kitchenmotors
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Agent Icebeezy said:Dude, you should have known better. Look.
You will never win. I've learned to let it go. Yes, on the whole, iPods gets outperformed by every other competitor, but you can't tell them that.
Screw you. You've "learned to let it go"? You must have a real fucking problem if you really need to act like such a bitch and post stupid animated gifs about something you clearly have a dislike for.
Lemurnator
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goomba said:"probably the only company ... with worse mp3 players ... than apple ... is sony ..."
gimme a break.. ipod > *
WRONG
iAudio X5 > iRiver H320/40 (H10 is crap) >>>>>>>>>>>> IPOD
Fresh Prince
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2 Pages? No worries!Macam said:
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I see more Shuffles than regular iPods or minis these days. It makes me want to cry for humanity :'(.
CaptainStrong
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This may not be the place for it but, do you lose quality when converting MP3 to AC3? That is the apple format right?
The Faceless Master
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:lol :lol :lolLemurnator said:
right...
Ignatz Mouse
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Agent Icebeezy said:
I had a Zen (30GB). I liked it. No way in hell it fits in a pocket. It's significantly bigger than an iPod.
I *almost* upgraded mine to 60GB. It's the second-best choice.
i take back what i said about version 3.1 of SonicStage. After roughly four hours of reimporting my music (Athlon XP1700), it recognized all of my MP3s. It's still sluggish, but they added a search feature similar to iTunes. Seems much more stable, and the speed is about on par with Winamp, though it's occupying 100MB+ of RAM at the moment. But for my purposes of converting music to my PSP, it's sufficient.
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