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Sony tries to stop nude images from Beyond: Two Souls from spreading online

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OmegaFax

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Exactly. Not to mention that even if they aren't intended to be seen, the fact that they're present necessitates a stricter age rating. Remember the Hot Coffee incident in GTA: San Andreas?


There's male frontal nudity in GTA V and it got an M rating. I really don't know why woman parts would be any more offensive. So an artist went the extra mile, took some creative license, and made Ellen Page not a Barbie doll down there. Respect.
 
The shower scene people have been using for the nude pics is gratuitous, but the other one has some story merit. To disrupt a person when they're at their most self-conscious is a fairly common trope.
Well and the other one is to make her look and smell nice for a date. Certainly warranted as well. More than the Madison shower scene in Heavy Rain at least. Of course it is also completely optional and you can stop after 1 second.


Its absolutely cage's fault for including it in the game at all.I mean wtf he has no respect at all for the actress ?

shitty script, shitty game and now unwanted damage for the actress's image.

pretty sure she got tricked into thinking that was safe enough not to appear nude on screen.she probably didn't recognize the risk.cage shouldda known better.
Yes Cage decides everything in a 3.5 year 200 men production. He goes to every single developer and tells them what to do. It's not like there are 2 producers under him and a lead character artist leading his department responsible for the base character modelling.

If anything, this is likely the fault of a single poor modeller who used a basic body template, adjusted her breast size for the fashion designers and then forgot to edit the nipples out. Probably somewhere down the list of much more important things to do before the gold deadline. A shame that it happened, but to put the blame exclusively on Cage is hilarious.

If Page cares, she can sue. I doubt she will though, because she is pretty cool and doesn't care much about anything.
 
It'd be great if I could just get a few more people weighing in on whether they would/would not fuck Ellen Page or her digital representation in David Cage's latest. Also can we get a few more masturbation jokes in here?

and what's it called when efforts to censor something backfire? it's on the tip of my tongue. Cheers.
 
It'd be great if I could just get a few more people weighing in on whether they would/would not fuck Ellen Page or her digital representation in David Cage's latest. Also can we get a few more masturbation jokes in here?

and what's it called when efforts to censor something backfire? it's on the tip of my tongue. Cheers.

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LocalE

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It'd be great if I could just get a few more people weighing in on whether they would/would not fuck Ellen Page or her digital representation in David Cage's latest. Also can we get a few more masturbation jokes in here?

and what's it called when efforts to censor something backfire? it's on the tip of my tongue. Cheers.

I'd do her, sure. As for her digital representation, I would totally do her if I was also a digital representation of myself.

If you want more masturbation jokes, post some. I got none.
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Replicant

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How is this thread not about the scene being a QTE for drying off? I found that funnier (judging by the comments, can't watch at work).

There you go:

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Has Ellen Page done any nudes in her movies? If not then I'll understand how this is damaging to her.

Some people would believe that she did pose nude for the developers to model her body. And dammit a nice girl like her should only undress for an oscar not neckbeard gamers, or something like that lol.
 

HeelPower

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Well and the other one is to make her look and smell nice for a date. Certainly warranted as well. More than the Madison shower scene in Heavy Rain at least. Of course it is also completely optional and you can stop after 1 second.



Yes Cage decides everything in a 3.5 year 200 men production. He goes to every single developer and tells them what to do. It's not like there are 2 producers under him and a lead character artist leading his department responsible for the base character modelling.

If anything, this is likely the fault of a single poor modeller who used a basic body template, adjusted her breast size for the fashion designers and then forgot to edit the nipples out. Probably somewhere down the list of much more important things to do before the gold deadline. A shame that it happened, but to put the blame exclusively on Cage is hilarious.

If Page cares, she can sue. I doubt she will though, because she is pretty cool and doesn't care much about anything.

Oh yes the image of a big holywood actress in a GAME production is not salient at all.Its at the bottom of a long list of other important stuff.

c'mon.Also, she won't sue,but what if she never acts in a videogame cuz of it ?
 
Has Ellen Page done any nudes in her movies? If not then I'll understand how this is damaging to her.

Some people would believe that she did pose nude for the developers to model her body. And dammit a nice girl like her should only undress for an oscar not neckbeard gamers, or something like that lol.
She did get naked multiple times for films (e.g. bathing scene in The East), although there is no nude scene yet apart from 1-2 seconds in one of her earlier movies where you can see her things very briefly.

Beyond actually shows the most of her on a consistent basis, even in the retail shower scenes (constant side boob). Since she signed that off, I don't think she is too bothered by her digital representation. A slight annoyance for sure, but I don't think it will hurt her in any way. In 2 weeks it will be forgotten anyway and I doubt she is gonna sue Sony. She doesn't really care about these things when you watch some of her interviews. PR, reviews, sales and money is not something she is very interested in. She works on anything that interests her, big or small and after she finishes it she moves on. She is also moving away from acting a bit and starts producing soon and maybe later even directing.



Oh yes the image of a big holywood actress in a GAME production is not salient at all.Its at the bottom of a long list of other important stuff.

c'mon.Also, she won't sue,but what if she never acts in a videogame cuz of it ?
To PR and marketing? Very important yes.

To the developers? Eh, I don't think she is that important in the whole development process. It's just a face like any other. I don't think the devs treated her in any special way. She already said in an interview that she was at the bottom of the list of people to satisfy on Beyond and she can understand why. She didn't had much influence over anything. But because of that and the huge amount of work she already said it would take a very special game for her to ever make another one. So this was pretty much an one-off anyway.
 

Trickster

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Man who gives a shit. They even say it's not actually her body. This is about as damaging to her, as her face photoshoped onto a porn models body...
 

darkpower

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Funny thing is that it is possibly someone internally as it was done on a dev kit and from dev code from the looks of it.

You know, it could be possible that all of the possible camera angles were available for all scenes in the game initially to see what the best angle was for a particular scene and so that every single background and detail in the game's scenery was clear of bugs and glitches that could break the game. That's why they are called "de-BUG" systems, after all. Have to remember what it takes to actually MAKE a game, and how one wrong move can break everything.

Let's ask how many other scenes that they had camera angles that they didn't use but used for debug to make sure that the game was clear of as many of these bugs and glitches as possible. That might put this into perspective.

Honestly, I don't see the big deal behind it because it was never able to be accessed through the final product, and this was just a leak. Not sure what's in it for Sony to censor the mere discussion of the topic (remember that Rule 34 exists), because it will happen regardless.

And it's not like no one can ever handle a female being naked in a game without either wanting to fap or wanting to condemn everyone even remotely responsible for even having the thought of adding it! Perhaps a female can be respectfully naked and NOT have either of those reactions. But maybe that would be too much to ask seeing how gamers have become so conservative about stuff like that that we can't have any meaningful compromise or even a discussion that doesn't involve name calling, grudge holding, or other things. I've played Heavy Rain, seen the nudity, and I wasn't even the slightest bit bothered by it because it's a part of the nature of things: men and women are going to be naked. It's not like we've never seen a naked body before.

I can see where some people in this discussion are coming from here given the particular scene, but still, I can see this degrading into mindless name calling and shaming like every other discussion about stuff like this.
 

tmarques

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I don't see how this is more damaging to the actress than being part of this game in the 1st place. It was by definition an admission that she was desperate for work.
 
What is it with showers and gaming...

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