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Sony vs Microsoft: The First Party Studios
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Gotta wait until 2015 until the console is worth buying (Bloodborne, Uncharted).
XB1 is actually worth considering this year with MCC and Sunset Overdrive (could be a bust or a classic).
Wii U is the only console worth buying without hesitation. Console actually has an abundance of quality first party games, although it did get a year heads start so that is expected.
Early console adopters are always shafted and what Sony is doing with the PS4 is a prime example of that.
XB1 is actually worth considering this year with MCC and Sunset Overdrive (could be a bust or a classic).
Wii U is the only console worth buying without hesitation. Console actually has an abundance of quality first party games, although it did get a year heads start so that is expected.
Early console adopters are always shafted and what Sony is doing with the PS4 is a prime example of that.
TheUnsunghero26
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I'm not sure if the point of the list is to compare the studios owned by each company, or the games published by them. But if you're just doing first party games, then shouldn't Kinect Sports Rivals and Ori and the Blind Forest be on the list, and TitanFall shouldn't?
Think it depends on what time of gamer you are. If you're really into online play, its hard to argue against Horizon 2 and MCC for this holiday season. Two very solid titles and MCC alone has an unbelievable amount of content.
PS4 and Wii u have some great offerings though. I hope to pick up each during the next two months. Killzone, Drive Club, Knack, TLOU, and infamous, are all games I want to experience and explore. Thats not to mention the superior(graphically) 3rd party support. Obviously Wii u has a great 1st party support too, which has a lot of "feel-good" games that I'm very excited to play.
It really is a great time to be a gamer imo. Each system would be a great pick up this holiday.
PS4 and Wii u have some great offerings though. I hope to pick up each during the next two months. Killzone, Drive Club, Knack, TLOU, and infamous, are all games I want to experience and explore. Thats not to mention the superior(graphically) 3rd party support. Obviously Wii u has a great 1st party support too, which has a lot of "feel-good" games that I'm very excited to play.
It really is a great time to be a gamer imo. Each system would be a great pick up this holiday.
sameoldstranger
Banned
Honestly uncharted mp killed gears for me,
That freedom of movement.
And if want to play with actual tactics and team work,
The last of us factions mp got my back.
Good to see so much trust in others (?).
Not familiar with his list wars?
many places
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Im the same, PS4 is an awesome console and i'll probably own one next year, but Halo and Gears and now FH2 keep me forever a microsoft fan. Halo MCC, Halo 5, and Gears 4 have me more excited than anything Sony has coming. Thats just my tastes in games, which I know is often made fun of on here and elsewhere, but who cares? I like what I like.
It's microsofts focus on those 3 franchises that has kept me off their platform. They were all great at first, but have grown old over through the last few releases.
BumblebeeCody
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Wait wait, I just realised. People are complaining that Microsoft lack exclusives and therefore Sony fans can proudly stick out their dicks and wave it around. But when Microsoft do acquire an exclusive (I dunno, say Tomb Raider) then people hate them.
Killer Instinct.
Killer Instinct.
TR has every reason in the world to be on PS4, MS just paid to not have it released on it.
Theres a thread for that though.
GeordieMark
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Console Warz
sameoldstranger
Banned
Exactly,
The halo franchise saw 7 releases on 360,
(Halo 1,3,4,reach,odst,spartan assault and halo wars)
No wonder halo's relevancy gets called into question,
when the franchise has experienced cod level milking.
And now they are doing it again and people are excited for it?
if they actually re release reach and odst on the bone,
That will be 9 titles on the bone.
Ms should take more risks as opposed to drawing from the well and pulling up dirt.
3DimensionalAperture
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The problem with Tomb Raider is that we knew the game was in development, and Microsoft paid the devs for exclusivity. But it was a game that was in the works already to begin with. Bloodborne and Bayonetta 2 were games that wouldn't have otherwise been made if it wasn't for SCE Japan Studio and Nintendo respectively.
I personally don't care either way. I thought Tomb Raider was terrible and I doubt this new one will be better.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Sorry but MS are giving fans an excellent game at an amazing value with MCC. Those old Halo games are better than pretty much any shooter released last Gen. People want them in a better resolution, frame rate with dedicated servers and MS is delivering.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Uh isn't the thread title about first party studios? A lot of third party in the list.
Just started the PS4 digital games, it's still unfinished, there are far too many PS4/PC indie games I haven't listed yet
PS4 Digital games
Res0gun
Entwined
inFamous: First Light
Everybody's Gone to The Rapture
Rime
Shadow of the Beast
Alienation
The Tomorrow Children
VizionEck
Without Memory
Basement Crawl
Escape Plan (also on Vita)
Dead Nation Apocalypse Edition
Velocity 2X (also on Vita)
Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate (also on PS3)
Sound Shapes (also on PS3 and Vita)
Journey (also on PS3)
Helldivers (also on PS3 and Vita)
Unfinished Swan (also on PS3)
Axiom Verge (also on Vita and PC)
Rocketbirds 2 (also on Vita)
Switch Galaxy Ultra (also on Vita)
Akiba's Trip 2 (also on Vita and PS3)
Hohokum (also on {PS3 and Vita)
Flower (also on Vita and PS3)
CounterSpy (also on Vita and PS3)
Don't Starve (also on PC)
Miles Quaritch
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Pretty sure I saw Outlast on the X1 store earlier.
Might heave been mistaken though.
Might heave been mistaken though.
Outlast released on the Xbone earlier in the year IIRC
i think a better title for thread would be "sony vs. microsoft: exclusives"
i mean, cmon. an enormous portion of those games listed for both systems aren't even developed by sony or microsoft first party studios. what.
you have games listed by:
-capcom
-NIS
-nihon falcom
-remedy
-platinum games
-insomniac
-tecmo koei
-arc systems
-square enix
-respawn
are you serious? they all look fantastic, but c'mon. the above is made up of private 3rd party companies, developers, and even publishers. what.
these may be first party products, but lets not deliberately mislead these into the same ranks as 'in-house' development. they're not . which is what the thread titles implies.
great games though.
i mean, cmon. an enormous portion of those games listed for both systems aren't even developed by sony or microsoft first party studios. what.
you have games listed by:
-capcom
-NIS
-nihon falcom
-remedy
-platinum games
-insomniac
-tecmo koei
-arc systems
-square enix
-respawn
are you serious? they all look fantastic, but c'mon. the above is made up of private 3rd party companies, developers, and even publishers. what.
these may be first party products, but lets not deliberately mislead these into the same ranks as 'in-house' development. they're not . which is what the thread titles implies.
great games though.
sameoldstranger
Banned
Exactly,
No risk.
Ms isnt delivering,
Its pre made pizza that any old oven can cook.
Miles Quaritch
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orthodoxy1095
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You don't see the huge difference in developing a game exclusively for a console and paying for a sequel to be restricted to your console for a period?
AngryNapkin
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I give Microsoft all the credit in the world for having a good line up however there are two things that bother me.
Microsoft almost abandoned the 360 a full two years early. That may or may not had something to do with them having a more complete lineup.
Second if I look back at the OG Xbox and 360 I don't see a large diversity in exclusives. The way I tell people to understand what I am talking about is to simply look at all the OXBM covers and the PSM cover over the last 5 years. Third party titles were mostly the games being shown all of which were also on PS3. On the other hand PSM had a ton of exclusive content.
The PlayStation brand has historically seen a large variety in games (most of which I didn't care for) that you can't find on PC.
Those issues I hope are resolved because I enjoy my Xbone. But I take history into account with this issue. I can't simply ignore what I feel is an important factor.
It's sort of like if you ask anyone why they like Xbox Halo, Gears or Forza will always be mentioned but when you ask a PlayStation owner they can't really list that one game.
I hope Phil Spencer is focused on this and it seems like he is. They have a solid lineup so far but heading into 2015 I'm not so sure.
One thing is certain though, Sonys WWS offerings have not been up to par so far other than Infamous imo.
Microsoft almost abandoned the 360 a full two years early. That may or may not had something to do with them having a more complete lineup.
Second if I look back at the OG Xbox and 360 I don't see a large diversity in exclusives. The way I tell people to understand what I am talking about is to simply look at all the OXBM covers and the PSM cover over the last 5 years. Third party titles were mostly the games being shown all of which were also on PS3. On the other hand PSM had a ton of exclusive content.
The PlayStation brand has historically seen a large variety in games (most of which I didn't care for) that you can't find on PC.
Those issues I hope are resolved because I enjoy my Xbone. But I take history into account with this issue. I can't simply ignore what I feel is an important factor.
It's sort of like if you ask anyone why they like Xbox Halo, Gears or Forza will always be mentioned but when you ask a PlayStation owner they can't really list that one game.
I hope Phil Spencer is focused on this and it seems like he is. They have a solid lineup so far but heading into 2015 I'm not so sure.
One thing is certain though, Sonys WWS offerings have not been up to par so far other than Infamous imo.
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BruceLeeRoy
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Sony definitely has a enormous edge here but it's not really a surprise. My Xbox has always been first and foremost a Halo box.
Halo mcc is not on 360, right?
EightBitNate
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Yeah. And Don't Starve is on Vita now.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
Owning both consoles, so far I prefer MS' exclusives to Sony's. The only thing I've played that I loved on the ps4 was Infamous and that lasted me less than 24 hours played time. And playing through TLOU a second time made me realize it's nowhere near as good as it was the first time around.
MS' exclusives have the upperhand in the MP department which is where I spend most of time now. Forza 5/Horizon 2, Killer Instinct, Titanfall. Not to mention Halo MCC and Gears. And then the single player department is just as good with Scalebound, Sunset this month, Ori and the Blind Forest, D4, Quantum Break, Crackdown and Fable. Not to mention I will gladly sink plenty of time into the Halo campaigns and the Gears campaign.
The only future release I'm looking forward to from Sony is Bloodborne. And then we have my Wii U which is a while different story and a complete beast on its own.
MS' exclusives have the upperhand in the MP department which is where I spend most of time now. Forza 5/Horizon 2, Killer Instinct, Titanfall. Not to mention Halo MCC and Gears. And then the single player department is just as good with Scalebound, Sunset this month, Ori and the Blind Forest, D4, Quantum Break, Crackdown and Fable. Not to mention I will gladly sink plenty of time into the Halo campaigns and the Gears campaign.
The only future release I'm looking forward to from Sony is Bloodborne. And then we have my Wii U which is a while different story and a complete beast on its own.
sameoldstranger
Banned
Sure it is,
Not only that you get reach and odst.
Halo 1-4 is playable on 360,
So I dont really follow what you are getting at
Canis lupus
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WWS under Yoshida is underperforming. There's no big blockbuster AAA title for PS4 this holiday. Driveclub didn't score as expected, nor did Knack or Killzone, they were critical bombs. Commercial flops include Puppeteer, Beyond and GT6(certainly for the series' standards), they were released close to PS4 launch. These games would have benefited from coming out earlier or being cross gen titles. Another bomb includes GoW Ascension, no one asked for it. He closed Studio Liverpool, he is responsible for The Last Guardian fiasco. Japan Studio's incompetence. SCEE studio output at an all time low. Only AAA game that both performed well critically and commercially is inFamous. Naughty Dog sells and makes good games cuz they're Naughty Dog.
EightBitNate
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Oh stop being so difficult. You know damn well that the MCC is not on the 360. They ARE found separately, but that's completely difficult than being able to fire up all 4 from the same disc. Not to mention the interconnected MP and Halo 2 remaster. Nothing like that exists on the 360.
sameoldstranger
Banned
Id actually pin the last guardian not releasing on its scope,
The ai sounds like a programmers nightmare.
A dogcatbird that you have almost no control over,
That may not listen to you at times,
Not only that but you have to rely on it to defend your character as it has no chance against enemies,
Gee I wonder why that game hasnt released *sarcasm.
But I wholly agree on the no AAA game this season,
Gt 6 should've been a ps4 release,
An extra year and it wouldve been enough to make it ps4 worthy for this season.
JimiNutz
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PS4 has a far greater line up and it's not really close (objectively).
From my subjective perspective though, I would take Halo MCC, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, Ori, Forza 5 and Killer Instinct over anything on the Sony list (other than Maybe Uncharted 4 and The Last Of Us.
MS games just appeal to me more and I enjoy playing them more.
It sucks for me because I'd prefer to have the superior Sony hardware but at the moment, while I can only really afford one of these consoles, I gotta go with Xbox One.
One day I'll get a PS4 for superior multdiarrheaiplats and hopefully some more appealing (for me) Sony exclusives. For now the Xbox One has the superior line up of exclusive games and future exclusive games that appeal to me.
From my subjective perspective though, I would take Halo MCC, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, Ori, Forza 5 and Killer Instinct over anything on the Sony list (other than Maybe Uncharted 4 and The Last Of Us.
MS games just appeal to me more and I enjoy playing them more.
It sucks for me because I'd prefer to have the superior Sony hardware but at the moment, while I can only really afford one of these consoles, I gotta go with Xbox One.
One day I'll get a PS4 for superior multdiarrheaiplats and hopefully some more appealing (for me) Sony exclusives. For now the Xbox One has the superior line up of exclusive games and future exclusive games that appeal to me.
sameoldstranger
Banned
Are you saying the halo games cant be done on 360?
It is not difficult to understand that the halo games have been playable on 360 for years,
And they can all be fired from the same disc, I call it a hard drive,
And seeing as how all xbone games require hard drive installs I dont see it being any different.
Its the same games that any 360 fan may already had in the collection for years.
Nothing new.
meanspartan
Member
Fuuuuuuck that. Sony are either first party studios OR Sony exclusive deals from the start.
Microsoft paid to take away a game from Playstation which was set to come out for the console in about a year. It's entirely different.
Leafhopper
Banned
I know you are trolling but Halo 2 can't be played online on Xbox in its current state before MCC comes out. Even if you think the enhancements in MCC are minor for some reason its not the same.
Miles Quaritch
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So.....why no list of digital exclusives on X1?
If this is going to be the comparison thread, should be done properly.
If this is going to be the comparison thread, should be done properly.
Gabotron ES
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You listed the MCC as a 360 title which is not.
Steverulez
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Well I think the argument being you can play all 4 games on 360 (H2 via BC)
Kevin Shields
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I owned a ps3 and I think MCC is gonna sway me alone to doing X1. Bloodborne and Uncharted are the only things making me rethink but you can't say "has no match on this list" when we don't even know if it's good yet...
Gabotron ES
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But there's new content which you can access on the 360 plus some extra frames and pixels which weren't there before ;p
3DimensionalAperture
Banned
This is a horrendously loaded comment. Yoshida has had a senior management position at SCE since 1993 - literally before the PS1 went retail. On the other hand, the concept of a "world wide studios" for all SCE studios is a relatively new thing. The SCE studios merged to become WWS only a few years ago. Just kind of funny you make it seem like WWS is some sort of legacy organization and Yoshida is new to SCE when it's the exact opposite.
meanspartan
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I have a 360 with all 4 games. I went Ps4 first, and am VERY jealous of MC collection because of 60fps alone. Dont underestimate that.
Though I concede that largely doesn't matter for mainstream.
Steverulez
Member
Im not saying I agree with it, just what the reasoning is likely to be
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