Mister Wolf
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Sony wanted to make Crimson Desert a timed exclusive for PS5, but developer Pearl Abyss said no
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midnightAI
Member
No but I've platinumed Ghost of Tsushima and this looks like more of the same, GoT was my game of last gen
(you do realise some of that cinematic trailer showed gameplay right? and that it was similar to the first game, just improved, and I'd also say Crimson Desert doesnt look as good as the original Ghost)
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
We just gotta mod out those weapon strike particle effects. They went overboard.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
That's not coming out in 2025. No way.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Koreans love flashy things, whether its effects or female asses.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
TheGodfather07
Member
Of course it makes a difference. You just said it yourself in your first line. It's about exclusivity. Nobody cares if it's first or third party.
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Fabieter
Member
I mean there is a difference between rise of ronin and silent hill. The first deal is okay the second suck asses.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
And then we have WuKong, being an accidental timed console exclusive because the studio struggle with Series S.
saintjules
Member
Hayabusabruh
Member
Sony every time an Asian studio makes a third person game.
This is why I was surprised Wuchang is coming to gamepass.
This is why I was surprised Wuchang is coming to gamepass.
mitch1971
Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
This is great news for the 5 Xbox players who still buy games.
yurinka
Member
Nah, there are many AAA, AA and indie 3rd parties who self publish and accept money hats from the console makes.
It just means that the studio considered that they'll make more money releasing in all platforms than accepting Sony's moneyhat. Meaning, they thought Sony didn't offer enough money.
Common sense says they do it because it's a profitable investment for them. Pretty likely also helps them to continue growing their market share vs MS and Nintendo. And in specific case of Korean games, it may help Sony grow in Asia/South Korea.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
make GTAVI exclusive sony...or, i dunno.... make your games 
Little Chicken
Member
Imagine my shock 
Regardless, the game looks amazing.
Regardless, the game looks amazing.
TheGodfather07
Member
Funny that Sony are seemingly becoming more aggressive with exclusivity deals even with no competition. Look how many they got this year. I would have thought they would do the opposite. Though it's probably just sony filling in gaps because that know how important exclusive games are to the health of a platform.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
I'm not buying this.
Unless the money Sony offered in the deal was pitiful, I can't see how a fairly unknown studio whose first console non-MMO game, that is a new IP, wouldn't take an exclusivity deal from Sony. The benefits from Sony's marketing alone would more than make up for any marginal revenue they'd make on the Xbox platform.
The Xbox is basically a platform on life support. It's barely moving consoles at all. And the userbase has been conditioned by MS to wait till games come to GamePass, so buy signifncantly less games.
What does Xbox offer Pearl Abyss that is meaningful other than a shitty tard pack console (the XSS) that will hold back their technical vision for the game?
It would not surprise me to see this game selling something like 8x more on PC than on Xbox. Sony's deal would be essentially free money for Pearl Abyss. They let Sony take the risk marketing the game, get all the up front sales on PC and PS, and then they could just as easily make a later deal with MS to launch the game on Xbox GamePass, because they're more likely to get more in that kind of deal from MS, than relying on game sales on the Xbox platform.
Unless the money Sony offered in the deal was pitiful, I can't see how a fairly unknown studio whose first console non-MMO game, that is a new IP, wouldn't take an exclusivity deal from Sony. The benefits from Sony's marketing alone would more than make up for any marginal revenue they'd make on the Xbox platform.
The Xbox is basically a platform on life support. It's barely moving consoles at all. And the userbase has been conditioned by MS to wait till games come to GamePass, so buy signifncantly less games.
What does Xbox offer Pearl Abyss that is meaningful other than a shitty tard pack console (the XSS) that will hold back their technical vision for the game?
It would not surprise me to see this game selling something like 8x more on PC than on Xbox. Sony's deal would be essentially free money for Pearl Abyss. They let Sony take the risk marketing the game, get all the up front sales on PC and PS, and then they could just as easily make a later deal with MS to launch the game on Xbox GamePass, because they're more likely to get more in that kind of deal from MS, than relying on game sales on the Xbox platform.
Perrott
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Moving forward, these exclusivity deals with Japanese/Asian games won't be as much about limiting their availability on Xbox for some time as they will be about preventing a simultaneous release on the Switch 2 as well.
Maybe, in conjunction to the timed exclusivity arrangement, Sony seeked to publish the PS5 version themselves, as it was going to be the case with the Knights of the Old Republic remake.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Good. Fuck this moneyhat nonsense.
Invest that money into insomniac, ND, SSM and GG instead of laying off talented devs you numb nuts.
Invest that money into insomniac, ND, SSM and GG instead of laying off talented devs you numb nuts.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
KojiPro was committing to a 2025 release as recently as 3 weeks ago. The exact date/launch announcement isn't set in stone, but it'll be 2025.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Just released a GOTY a month ago?!
Punished Miku
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Most Asian developers will turn that kind of deal down instantly.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
This quote is true except for Xbox
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
It's a big open world single player game. The first we're getting from Korean devs on consoles basically ever. They clearly have aspirations of being the next Elden Ring. Sounds like they're confident in their game getting solid reviews and selling well. Open world games like this have broad appeal on all platforms.
There really isn't a single timed exclusive on PS5 this gen that sold all that well. They've all underperformed. Maybe Sony needs to offer them more money.
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samoilaaa
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you think they need sony to make money ? u must be jokingUhm for me a business point of view they should have taken the dealI have my doubts sales will reach any meaningful sales on Xbox
How many copies did Black Desert sell?— 2024 statistics | LEVVVEL
Black Desert, developed by Pearl Abyss, is a visually stunning MMORPG that has captivated millions of players worldwide. The Black Desert sales and Black
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"Black Desert Online has amassed over 55 million registered players across PC, console, and mobile platforms, reflecting its broad appeal and widespread popularity.
The game has generated over €2 billion in revenue since its launch, highlighting its financial success and strong market presence."
Cakeboxer
Member
Depends on how much those deals are. If they are a couple of 100k, sure nobrainer. If they are in the millions and that's what i think it is for non indies, i don't think it's worth it if your only direkt competitor is dead. And you also always have the risc of a Forspoken. Too bad we never get numbers on those deals except the 100 million for Tomb Raider.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This quote literally makes NO SENSE!
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Uhm for me a business point of view they should have taken the deal
You guys are acting as if GamePass doesn't exist. They also probably want that money from Microsoft too.
nial
Gold Member
Silent Hill 2 carrying Sony in a year in which Helldivers 2 sold >5M units on PS5 alone (around 3 months after launch) is surely a take.
It's not like Final Fantasy VII Rebirth sold that better compared to Rise of the Ronin or Stellar Blade, either. I still have no idea why you feel the need to being this disingenuous in every PlayStation thread.
Right, but that's kinda a whole different thing.
Now this is something I hadn't considered, could be right!
Third-party relations money doesn't go into PlayStation Studios budget.
Fabieter
Member
Exclusives are fine but if all you got is timed exclusives than stop doing them altogether makes no sense? Timed exclusives bring no value to the platform at all.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
They likely wanted to keep it off PC. Like Stellar Blade, FF16, Rebirth, etc.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
hogwarts legacy sold Playstations
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Excellent. A big fuck you to Sony.
20 fucking characters at lvl 61 but "I never grind".
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Not sure why Sony even bothers with timed console exclusives.
Fortress of Regrets
Member
I love developers/publishers who tell Sony to shove their exclusivity contracts up their corporate ass.
A lot of them are learning and that is good
A lot of them are learning and that is good
intheinbetween
Member
TrillionsIts their loss
Edit: explanation for the triggered folks! Refusing millions to gain a fraction of that through Xbox is not a smart business decision.
Fabieter
Member
Point in case that timed exclusives are not needed when multiplatform doing the job just as good. I like exclusives, I think it gives every platform and gaming as a whole more character. I dont care which platform has them tho but timed exclusives has no value.
