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EDIT - Out of the choices, I'd guess Ohio.

Ohio. Ain't even a contest

I'm going to have to go with Ohio as well. My dad's family is from Columbus and all of them are pretty progressive people.

Do any of them having court challenges in the system?

All of them pretty recently upheld their gay marriage bans. In the case of the red strip there (Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee), it looks like the Supreme Court will take the case later this year, but no guarantees yet.

 

[googleplex]

Came in for dancing penny, and I was not disappointed.

Great news. Fuck second class citizenship!

 

[Nikodemos]

<fires chainsaw>

"Gay marriage!"

 

[thewaffles]

See this phrase just sounds odd to me too, and it's possibly why I find this whole system confusing. I didn't think it was a judge's job to make laws exactly. Just apply the ones you've got.

They aren't really making any laws, just saying whether current ones are or are not constitutional. They're making gay marriage legal by saying that the law was unconstitutional. Basically its legal because it is not illegal, not because it is legal by law. Sort of.

 

[IDKAboutThat]

Georgia really is gonna be the last state isn't it? Damn shame to live here sometimes.


Sure, lets let the state vote on whether gay people can get married, but medical marijuana? No sir, can't handle that shit.

Stop confusing the issue
Marijuana is an evil force murdering your children, whereas gay marriage is simply not the America I grew up in

Came in for dancing penny, and I was not disappointed.

Great news. Fuck second class citizenship!

You wanna be a second class citizen, try using a wheelchair in an old city
Apparently they invented ramps around 1962. I'm being oppressed by the Architectiarchy.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

June

It'll be legal nationwide by the end of June.

It's almost certain the Supreme Court will take on one of the cases ruling against same sex marriage from the 6th Circuit, and overturn it, ruling in favor of same sex marriage and making it legal in all 50 states in June.

Can't wait.

 

[Ezalc]

5th circuit ruining the Rainbow Express.

Otherwise known as Rainbow Road.

 

[Damaniel]

They're also ruining anyone's plans for a same-sex marriage cross-country tour.

EDIT - Out of the choices, I'd guess Ohio.

The cross-country tour will just need to make a diversion into Canada for a while. Eventually, one of the remaining backwards states will fall and the connection will be complete.

Honestly I'm shocked that gay marriage has been legalized so quickly in so many places. Just a decade ago, states were lining up to ban it via their constitutions (mine included), and I figured that it would be illegal almost everywhere for at least another decade, if not longer. Glad to see I was wrong.

 

[ivysaur12]

Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee are all in the 6th Circuit, whose loss at the appellate court will, most likely, be taken up by the SCOTUS. They're all going to be decided together, so they all will be part of the Great Gay Railway together. But by then, it will not matter.

 

[Escape Goat]

80 years since homosexuality was actively pursued by law enforcement. 45 years since new york tried to close down all gay bars and the Stonewall Riots. 30 years since homosexuality was removed as a mental illness in the DSM. Almost 20 years since DOMA made gay marriage illegal.

Its been a long road and were enjoying the labors of many brave men and women who came before. I hope were almost to full equality under the law.

 

[jackissocool]

So, out of the three blocking the transcontinental gayway, which one do you think will fall first?

Ohio?
Kentucky?
Tennessee?

Taking all bets.

Please be Ohio. This is embarrassing.

 

[NotBacon]

Came in for dancing penny, and I was not disappointed.

Great news. Fuck second class citizenship!

You should explain this gif because confused I am

 

[Hours Left]

You should explain this gif because confused I am

It's Penny. She dances.

 

[NotBacon]

It's Penny. She dances.

Sigh. This definitely explains why it's it's in every gay-marriage-ban-overturned thread.....

 

[ivysaur12]

Sigh. This definitely explains why it's it's in every gay-marriage-ban-overturned thread.....

Exactly!

The South Dakota AG will appeal to the 8th Circuit, joining Arkansas and Missouri's appeal. There has been no ruling from North Dakota or Nebraska, and Iowa and Minnesota already have marriage equality.

 

[Mike M]

You should explain this gif because confused I am

It's just a celebratory gif that's been turned into a local meme to associate with marriage equality rulings (same with comments about gender less dystopias)

 

[Lace]

Its amazing these turn of events began with a tax case.

 

[jb1234]

I have no hate for the character, just hate how that became the defacto .gif when devilwavingchainsaw.gif is superior.

What's wrong with using both of them? They're both awesome.

Congrats to South Dakota!

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Marriage is one of those weird things here in America. It's technically a religious ceremony, but it garners benefits from the state. Bearing that in mind, it would be pretty goddamn impossible to get something like a "Marriage Rights Amendment" passed in today's political climate.

It's not religious in the least. It's a secular and civil contract. This is why a justice of the peace or other figure can certify your marriage.

The whole thing with a priest and such is just for show, the state doesn't give a rats about it, nor is it required. It also doesn't make you 'married' in the eyes of the state, signing the license does.

 

[Ndless]

If my state (Florida) made it legal, I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time other states follow suit.

 

[Raxus]

Still shocked Ohio and Kentucky are so far behind the curve.

BTW 90% of the reason I come to these threads is because of the glorious gifs.

 

[Ahasverus]

Before anyone asks.

What does the yellow mean in layman terms?

 

[Link]

What does the yellow mean in layman terms?

A judge ruled the state's ban unconstitutional, but the ban is still in effect during the appeals process.

 

[AnathemicOne]

Fuck the Penny .gif, best .gif incoming:

 

[Ahasverus]

A judge ruled the state's ban unconstitutional, but the ban is still in effect during the appeals process.

How much time does the appeal take?

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

How much time does the appeal take?

Until SCOTUS makes a decision if the judge is correct, those current yellow ones should be solved in June.

 

[TheAbsolution]

How much time does the appeal take?

It depends.
All should be resolved by June though.

 

[Paskil]

Interestingly, the judge applied strict scrutiny.

 

[ivysaur12]

Fuck the Penny .gif, best .gif incoming:

Eh. It's more on topic, I suppose, but Penny is a true gay icon

Spoiler

and is from the far superior show.

Fight me, you Community nerds.

Interestingly, the judge applied strict scrutiny.

Oh, whoa.

 

[Paskil]

Here's the ruling, by the way. Fairly straightforward. Surprised given her reasoning, that she issued a stay. Seems the other 8th circuit states swayed it a good portion.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/252429277/4-14-cv-04081-50

 

[ivysaur12]

Here's the ruling, by the way. Fairly straightforward. Surprised given her reasoning, that she issued a stay. Seems the other 8th circuit states swayed it a good portion.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/252429277/4-14-cv-04081-50

I do understand the stay, especially since the 8th leans conservative and it's quite possible that if she doesn't issue a stay. If she's overturned, there is the potential for harm to come to Pam and Marge, South Dakota's only lesbian couple.

 

[ascii42]

Georgia really is gonna be the last state isn't it? Damn shame to live here sometimes.


Sure, lets let the state vote on whether gay people can get married, but medical marijuana? No sir, can't handle that shit.

There's actually case in Georgia
http://www.11alive.com/story/news/p...e-efforts-in-georgia-moving-forward/21543989/

 

[kitschykitty]

Eh. It's more on topic, I suppose, but Penny is a true gay icon

Spoiler

and is from the far superior show.

Fight me, you Community nerds.

Spoiler

The Penny .gif is why I come to these threads

 

[DuffDry]

It's not religious in the least. It's a secular and civil contract. This is why a justice of the peace or other figure can certify your marriage.

The whole thing with a priest and such is just for show, the state doesn't give a rats about it, nor is it required. It also doesn't make you 'married' in the eyes of the state, signing the license does.

Man, I wish this were true. Another Georgia rant here, when my wife and I went to the court house last year to be married, our fricken Judge invoked God repeatedly, including a prayer. It was awful. We had no idea she was going to do that until we're up there hand-in-hand, and by then it's too late. We weren't able meet with her beforehand so it's not like she knew it wasn't our bag but still.

Made my mother happy as shit though, managing to see some Jesus snuck into her son's wedding. I'm over it, but it was jarring nonetheless.

 

[Ahasverus]

Until SCOTUS makes a decision if the judge is correct, those current yellow ones should be solved in June.

It depends.
All should be resolved by June though.

Thank you. Let's see. Interesting that the SCOTUS is going to force a decision in just a few states! That's very good.

 

[davepoobond]

Thanks for the explanation. I guess it sort of makes sense, but it just feels like the kind of thing that should be done centrally. Is there any chance of a federal law coming in at the end of all this? Like, "Welp, it's legal in every state now anyway, might as well!"?

Lets put it this way, a federal law would take longer to pass at this point than letting it play out as it is right now. Even if it had a worthwhile chance.

Also, it would sort of be a waste of effort. There isn't a point in passing a federal law approving something that is already essentially legal. That law that passes could potentially curtail rights depending on the author and the scope they get it approved under.

As it is right now its a clean, "yes they can marry under normal laws" -- you don't run the risk of having specific laws for gay marriage that make it harder until it gets challenged in the Supreme Court.

Basically, what's happening right now is best to let happening. If we were talking 20 years ago, then sure a federal law would have been better than waiting it out.

 

[ivysaur12]

A theoretical federal law would also be difficult because, yes, states do have the discretion on their own marriage policy. It's unlikely such a thing would pass, ever. Interracial marriage wasn't even part of the Civil Rights Act. It's rare that such that a thing would be passed in the affirmative and much more likely, just like with interracial marriage, the bans would be enjoined from enforcement.

 

[GK86]

Map:

This is beautiful.

 

[ivysaur12]

Also, I wouldn't really consider Missouri full blue, but whatever.

 

[Link]

Also, I wouldn't really consider Missouri full blue, but whatever.

True, but that's the map Wikipedia has now. Not sure why they got rid of the stripes.

 

[ivysaur12]

True, but that's the map Wikipedia has now. Not sure why they got rid of the stripes.

Right, no, I know. I mean, I guess you can just go get married in St. Louis and it's recognized statewide, but yeah, that's not the same as full legalization. I wouldn't say that Mexico has fully legalized gay marriage even though it's recognized in every jurisdiction.

 

[Paskil]

Interesting aside, I'm currently on a workgroup that is designing the changes to the Wisconsin eligibility process for SNAP (foodstamps, or FoodShare as it's called here), Medicaid, TANF, BadgerCare, and other other public assistance programs. The main issues with systems are the relationship statuses of children with same sex parents, spousal household relationships, and absent parents. Program policy, both from the CFR, and state policy are already largely gender neutral.

Fun stuff.

 

[Marvie_3]

Map:

Almost there.

 

[KingHenrik30]

Interestingly, the judge applied strict scrutiny.

I guess she recognized ALL types of marriage as "deeply rooted in tradition" for that

 

[Volimar]

THE GAYS ARE COMING FROM THE EAST AND THE WEST.

It's like the allies and the soviet union during wwII. they'll eventually meet in the middle and divide the capital amongst themselves as some kind of super gay paradise.

You'll never take homophobic Hitler alive

 

[DOWN]

Map:

That map has changed so fast.

 

[Link]

That map has changed so fast.

Honestly, far faster than I ever imagined.

 

[HylianTom]

You'll never take homophobic Hitler alive

Where would Der Fuhrerbunker be?

I'd nominate American Family Association headquarters in Tupelo, MS.. but the 5th Circuit might make that kind of a storyline a bit flawed. It'd probably have to be somewhere in the 6th district, right?

 

[jb1234]

That map has changed so fast.

It's pretty awesome.

 

[Andrew J.]

Interestingly, the judge applied strict scrutiny.

Oh, whoa.

?

Every judge who's gone down the fundamental right/substantive due process route has applied strict scrutiny.